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I don't want shit food from the US

563 replies

flashbac · 25/10/2020 10:10

So word has it BJ is waiting to see who wins US election. Trump = no deal with EU. Biden = half arsed attempt at EU deal.
I think Trump might win because too many people are so gullible and brainwashed.
So how can we avoid eating crap food from the US? Thus far EU standards have protected us from dangerous additives, excessive phalates in packaging, the list is long.

OP posts:
blueangel19 · 25/10/2020 11:02

Buy British products as much as possible.

Jaxhog · 25/10/2020 11:02

How many of the posters here who can afford to buy more expensive meat from local producers voted Conservative?

Don't blame Conservative voters - blame the Brexiteers. They got us into this mess.

SerendipityJane · 25/10/2020 11:02

Not so sure packaging is going to be any use. Certain not if it's a red tractor.

www.fwi.co.uk/news/eu-referendum/shock-as-red-tractor-chair-votes-to-lower-food-standards

One of the reasons there isn't a full EU deal with the US is the US would insist on labelling being changed to disguise the actual origin of products. Now the UK is out of the EU, there's no such protection. And, judging from the link, no political will to continue it either.

Still, we have to remember that this is what the will of the people was, and that it's deeply undemocractic to discuss it. Or so I've been told these past years.

Iwonder08 · 25/10/2020 11:03

OP, gosh, if only US people had a bit of your wisdom, them being so brainwashed and gullable ..
Maybe seek professional help for your paranoia

SnuggyBuggy · 25/10/2020 11:03

I think also finding more time to cook from scratch and batch cook. Shame I'm so lazy.

nosswith · 25/10/2020 11:03

What we can buy from a butcher, supermarket can be our choice, or we can choose not to have chicken for example in our diet. What happens with school meals, those for prisoners, those in care homes, who may not have the choice to say no or be able to shop for themselves?

ArranBound · 25/10/2020 11:04

What worries me is, if we do a deal with the US and start importing that bloody awful food, what will happen to farmers here. Will the government remove our current high standards for rearing animals for food so farmers can cut the same corners and produce low grade meat, too? Or will they let UK farming go out of business?

If it does happen, I'll be buying meat from a local butcher who can show the provenance of well raised, UK bred animals. I'll educate myself on what to look out for and will be reading labels very carefully.

That Dispatches programme last week was sickening and heartbreaking. It also scared the hell out of me.

WitchesSpelleas · 25/10/2020 11:05

Labour and Remain voter here.

I'm well aware it's more expensive to buy local produce.

Hoppinggreen · 25/10/2020 11:06

I can afford to buy locally sourced meat and I didn’t vote Conservative
We actually eat very little meat and what we do eat we mostly buy from a farm shop that butchers it’s own or uses local suppliers.

Cam77 · 25/10/2020 11:07

Don't blame Conservative voters - blame the Brexiteers. They got us into this mess.

Well, the whole shambles was effectively from the beginning just a Tory Party domestic dispute thrown upon the nation to resolve. UKIP was a million million miles away from ever becoming a serious political party. But the Tories decided to grab their raisin detre and let it dominate Britain for what will be two decades +
I blame Tory voters for enabling them in their chaos creation.

viques · 25/10/2020 11:10

@MarriedtoDaveGrohl

We don't ever buy it. But it will be in every takeaway or ready meal we get. So we will buy it. The thought makes me sick. I only drink organic milk anyway - if you are doing organic anything milk has the most reasons to switch. Fucking America. The thing they are bad at is the thing they want to export. We already have Amaxon, google, etc etc why this?
Not to mention every hospital, school and prison meal. The only safe government funded place to eat if they allow it will be the Members dining rooms in the HOC/HOL.

It is a huge scandal. There was an article fairly recently in the Guardian about the way US food is produced, apparently there are over 70 chemicals and additives that are used in US farming and food production (including growth hormones that are known to make pigs more aggressive) that are banned in the EU.

Cam77 · 25/10/2020 11:10

Boris Johnson fought tooth and nail to get Britain out of the EU. I’m looking forward to seeing the prosperity his successful campaign brings to Britain over the next five years. Warnings of 20% food price hikes are not getting me flushed with excitement thus far.

Unsure33 · 25/10/2020 11:11

I agree - read the labels . On meat and those types of products anyway .

Ifailed · 25/10/2020 11:12

WTO rules forbid the labelling food with the country of origin, so presumably a local butcher can say she gets her meat from Smith's Farm, but can't tell you which country it's in.

SerendipityJane · 25/10/2020 11:12

What worries me is, if we do a deal with the US and start importing that bloody awful food, what will happen to farmers here

They'll get bought up at a discount price by big US conglomerates so that local "UK" food can be grown, reared and sold without needing to freight the stuff across the Atlantic. And you know that MPs will already have their stakes in such companies, ready to trouser a few million (of our money) for consultancy.

If you want proof, you need to counter my assertions by finding a country which has done a deal with the US and thence reported how their food standards have improved. I'll be here till 2030 - the year not the time - for your reply ....

But, once again. This is what people voted for. And if it isn't, it's too late now. Hard lesson to learn, but luckily it's more our kids that will be paying for it. So that's OK then.

Unsure33 · 25/10/2020 11:15

I cook from scratch so I am not too worried . But I don't see how they can stop us putting a union jack on home produced food even if other food is not labelled with country of origin .

Feminist10101 · 25/10/2020 11:15

@slipperywhensparticus

Why would we stop buying British? Literally everything basic milk and meat wise says its from the UK? British meat and milk products are cheap enough anyway

Is the meat halal? All the foods in my children's school is (meat containing food obviously)

Lots and lots of dairy products/chicken products labelled as British aren’t. As long as they’re packaged in the U.K. they can come from anywhere.
Unsure33 · 25/10/2020 11:16

actually@SerendipityJane

that would not surprise me - even before Brexit people don't realise how many companies are now under American ownership

Rummikub · 25/10/2020 11:16

Read the packaging?
Country of origin won’t be available

Become vegetarian ?
Fruit and veg will be affected

Buy local?
While you can. However I fear that British farmers will lose their businesses as the US will be able to flood our market with their cheaper, mass produced, pesticide heavy, chlorinated products.

If local produce is available i imagine it will cost a lot more. Yet again the poorer parts of society will be vulnerable

Buy organic?
US organic standards are not as rigorous as EU/UK organic standards

The health of the nation will suffer
Increasing obesity and diabetes as a direct result of food containing eg corn syrup

Yohoheaveho · 25/10/2020 11:18

And you know that MPs will already have their stakes in such companies, ready to trouser a few million (of our money) for consultancy
yup, whatever happens those c*s will always position themselves so that they receive the wind fall😡

Rummikub · 25/10/2020 11:18

It won’t affect me?

It might do. Restaurants, hospital food, school dinners. Everyone needs to speak up!

Sarahandco · 25/10/2020 11:18

I have a feeling you will not need to worry about this

blueangel19 · 25/10/2020 11:18

I feel worse about things coming from China.

DarkDarkNight · 25/10/2020 11:20

@Florencex

So how can we avoid eating crap food from the US

Very easily. Read the packaging. Confused

It’s not that simple though Florence the USA wants to have no label of origin so consumers can’t make this choice for themselves. They say it’s anti-competition which is a joke, it’s about lowering quality and removing people’s ability to choose higher quality products and better welfare standards.

I am sickened that the government think this is in any way acceptable. It is only the start, it will be glucose fructose syrup all around next.

gamerchick · 25/10/2020 11:21

@Jaxhog

How many of the posters here who can afford to buy more expensive meat from local producers voted Conservative?

Don't blame Conservative voters - blame the Brexiteers. They got us into this mess.

No. You can't put a yes no question to something like that on millions of people who have put up with shit from the government. People will vote for a change, especially one they didn't understand. The media went on as if the EU was something done to them rather than for them. You need to cast blame a bit further back than the people who voted to leave.

That referendum should never had happened in the first place.