I don't want shit food from the US

[flashbac]

So word has it BJ is waiting to see who wins US election. Trump = no deal with EU. Biden = half arsed attempt at EU deal.
I think Trump might win because too many people are so gullible and brainwashed.
So how can we avoid eating crap food from the US? Thus far EU standards have protected us from dangerous additives, excessive phalates in packaging, the list is long.

[Mypathtriedtokillme]

What’s wrong with you?
You don’t want wood cellulose in your cheese? Think of all that added fibre!

[ivftake1]

@flashbac

Can posters kindly stop parroting the line "read the packaging". As I have posted above, we might not be able to rely on packaging if the US insists on doing away with labelling. They'd be stupid not to as they they we won't accept their crap.
And what about school meals, restaurant meals, chocs and biccies? Formula milk made with US components? Use your 'loaf' please.

The US can do away with their labelling, but they can't tell french companies to stop labelling their products as french. So therefore you can buy non-US products by process of elimination.

[PastMyBestBeforeDate]

It is going to be very difficult to avoid the US standard food. Especially if you are on a budget or urban. Cooking from scratch will be essential to stand any chance but still won't be any guarantee.

[DetectiveRandySomething]

Eating animal products is optional, you know 😉

[Rummikub]

But how many shops will stock eg French produce if the market isn’t there?

Price will be a massive concern to shoppers. The double whammy of coronavirus and brexit isn’t going to leave much cash for people to shop in the way they might prefer.

The only people who will have choice are those with money - like the MPs-
This is why they don’t care about food standards for the rest of us. Same with health care and education.

[Rummikub]

@DetectiveRandySomething

Eating animal products is optional, you know 😉

Fruit and veg will be affected too

[Lemonsyellow]

The US can do away with their labelling, but they can't tell french companies to stop labelling their products as french. So therefore you can buy non-US products by process of elimination.

Products from around the world will have to be relabelled for the UK to remove country of origin if we want a trade deal with the US. Otherwise, the US say it is anticompetitive.

[crossstitchingnana]

@Florencex

So how can we avoid eating crap food from the US

Very easily. Read the packaging.

But these proposals mean food labelling will become more obscure, particularly the origin.

[amusedtodeath1]

What word? Where's this come from that it all depends on the US election results? Do you have a source please?

[viques]

I have just re read the article in the Guardian I mentioned up thread. It is called something like It’s not Just Chlorinated Chicken , and was published in March 2020. Make sure you are not eating if you read it. Rat hair and pus?

Apparently not even Russia and .China will accept imports of US reared pork because of the hormones and chemicals the pigs are routinely fed. And if Russia and China think the food doesn’t meet acceptable standards then wow, there must be problems with it.

[Yohoheaveho]

@Rummikub

But how many shops will stock eg French produce if the market isn’t there?

Price will be a massive concern to shoppers. The double whammy of coronavirus and brexit isn’t going to leave much cash for people to shop in the way they might prefer.

The only people who will have choice are those with money - like the MPs-
This is why they don’t care about food standards for the rest of us. Same with health care and education.

This^
Much easier to dominate and oppress a population if they have health issues and are poorly educated
That's why Donald Trump 'loves the poorly educated' and isn't interested in any kind of health care plan

[KaptainKaveman]

I read 'Fast Food Nation' back when it was published (around 20 years ago) and it was terrifying back then. It will only have got a lot worse.

I faced with a choice of either a) eating 'meat' loaded with chemicals, hormones, antibiotics, nitrates and phosphates or b) going vegetarian, it's a simple choice really, isn't it?

The argument that 'I have to buy this meat as it's all I can afford' doesn't stand up. You'd be better off - health wise and financially - cooking lentils, kidney beans etc.

[doctorhamster]

It will definitely put me off supermarket shopping. Im lucky in that I have a very local butcher and greengrocer. I'd order vegetarian take aways I suppose, although that doesn't solve the veg/pesticides issue.

[PastMyBestBeforeDate]

You'd be better off - health wise and financially - cooking lentils, kidney beans etc.
As long as you're OK with GM crops, pesticides and so on then, yes.

[ptumbi]

So how can we avoid eating crap food from the US

Very easily. Read the packaging. confused

Except the packaging will say something like 'packaged in the UK' when the meat inside is chlorinated chicken, bought in cheaply and chucked into a UK bag.

And as for 'buy local' - US standards are so far below the UK animal welfare standards, that US meat is Cheap Cheap Cheap. The UK farmers will not be able to complete on price, without reducing animal welfare standards, which will mean substandard UK meat. And milk. And eggs. And nearly all animal products.



I'm going vegetarian. Seriously.

[Anotheruser02]

Exactly what gamer said.

[justanotherneighinparadise]

Wouldn’t it be wonderful if this forced people to shop locally again!!

[joanwinifred]

[quote flashbac]@ivftake1
But we might not be able to rely on packaging. The US know there is strong opposition so might insist on us removing country of origin labels. Even if the whole product isn't made in the US the components might be. Look at what their standards are on milk for example (from The Guardian)
US rules allow milk to have nearly double the level of somatic cells – white blood cells that fight bacterial infection – that the UK allows. In practice, this means more pus in our milk, and more infections going untreated in cows.[/quote]
Do you think it would be better to use a milk man instead of buying milk from a supermarket then? Or will local dairy farms be just as bad?

[Rummikub]

People!!
Please realise that IT’S NOT JUST MEAT!
It’s all food produce. INCLUDING FRUIT & VEG.
Everything will be affected.
American standards are very poor and actually frightening.

This is going to cause long term problems for health.
It will decimate our farmers.
We already killed off manufacturing
Why the hell do we want to do the dave with our farmers.

If we don’t manufacture or grow anything then we are at the mercy of America.

[InFlagranteDerelicto]

High Fructose Corn Syrup. A major additive in American food, in place of regular sugar. Essentially used because they have lots of land on which to grow corn & support their farmers. No thanks.

YouTube lecture with Dr Lustig

<a class="break-all" href="https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5747444/&ved=2ahUKEwiR0oTpzc_sAhVSi1wKHdrHCocQFjAAegQIAxAB&usg=AOvVaw3Te5l7yKZ926qte-lUPw14" rel="nofollow noindex" target="_blank">Link to research paper including conclusions regarding metabolic dysregulation.

I see very little about supporting UK farmers, or any regular citizens, in any US public policy. They don't even support their own citizens. This (HFCS) issue has been known about for some years, but it's essentially too much of a political headache to sort out, & also supports the massive private healthcare market by helping to keep the population fat & unhealthy.

I'm not at all confident that the US government will act in the best interests of anything or anyone but the ones at the top of the US government. Especially with the current administration.

[Rummikub]

• Same not dave

[Ifailed]

Wouldn’t it be wonderful if this forced people to shop locally again?

How would it do that? Unless you knew that your local green grocer grew all their veg, you wouldn't have any idea where it came from as it would be illegal to label it with Country of Origin. Likewise the butcher, the baker and (probably) the candlestick maker.

[Suzeyshoes]

Absolutely to @rummikub

Some of the remarks on here show how little some know about the situation. It's really quite shocking.

Country of Origin won't be on labels. The farming industry is on the brink of collapse already and once cheaper US imports take over UK products will start to either disappear or become extremely expensive. These shitty cheap products will be everywhere: in takeaways, restaurant food, hospitals, school dinners.
And once again, it's the poorer communities that won't have a choice.
So many saying 'Well I buy everything from my local farmer.' What about those living in inner cities who can only afford the cheapest products? Sod 'em right?

Still can't believe anyone ever voted for this or Johnson.

[Lemonsyellow]

@justanotherneighinparadise

Wouldn’t it be wonderful if this forced people to shop locally again!!

What does that actually mean? I live in London. Locally means the supermarket or an expensive deli. British farmers won’t be able to compete on price and many will go under. Or they will have to go niche and expensive.

[Puzzledandpissedoff]

I realise some folks' experience of the USA begins and ends with the theme parks, but do people really think junk food is all they produce?

Yes it's there, just as it is in the UK, but even the shortest visit to a decent store (as opposed to a fast food outlet) shows the choice is vast and there's rather more to it than the famed chlorinated chicken, sugary bread and vividly coloured sodas

Or maybe this is just a cover for yet another tiresome anti-American thread?