I don't want shit food from the US

[flashbac]

So word has it BJ is waiting to see who wins US election. Trump = no deal with EU. Biden = half arsed attempt at EU deal.
I think Trump might win because too many people are so gullible and brainwashed.
So how can we avoid eating crap food from the US? Thus far EU standards have protected us from dangerous additives, excessive phalates in packaging, the list is long.

[Yohoheaveho]

@Baaaahhhhh

The US know there is strong opposition so might insist on us removing country of origin labels

They actually have no control over this. Supermarkets can do what they like. If the customer demands it, the supermarkets will do it. The US cannot control the behaviour of consumers or supermarkets.

It's despicable they know we don't want to poison ourselves with thier low grade unhealthy food like substances so they just make sure they can trick us into eating it anyway 😳😡

[Faultymain5]

There are some stores, like Whole Foods, that don't sell anything but organic foods. If that's what the British public wants, that's what your merchants will import.

How many Americans on welfare, do you suppose, have whole foods as an option.

How many brits on UC will. Today I’m in a great position financially, I buy from my more expensive butcher, have Waitrose, Ocado or Sainsbury’s delivered. I can imagine a different life, is there a reason why so many people cannot?

[Rummikub]

@HermioneMakepeace

So you’d rather have shit food from the UK? English meat is full of antibiotics and bleach and all sorts of disgusting things.

Uk Food standards are higher than US food standards

[BlueMountains5]

Okay so I am American and grew up in the land of ‘shit food,’ as you call it. Meat is still labelled in America - yes, you need to check the packaging. When I first moved to London, my British friends were surprised by how diligently I checked labels at the store - it does take more effort. I wouldn’t ever buy meat that wasn’t organic or free range in America (and actually I still don’t in Britain, probably because it’s been so ingrained).

I know it’s not ideal, but I also don’t think that this future of unmarked American chlorinated chicken is one to worry too much about. In America, you see labels like ‘free range Wisconsin beef,’ with details about what the cows have been fed. etc. So even Americans are much more informed about the origin of their meat then you seem to believe.

[Rummikub]

But we won’t be getting Wisconsin grass fed beef

This is about money
Name as much as they can as fast as possible

[Lemonsyellow]

That's why trade deals take so long to negotiate and are so difficult to get consensus on.

Exactly. And we don’t have time to negotiate a more equal trade deal. We have little to bargain with and time is against us.

[HermioneMakepeace]

Also, meat is pumped full of hormones. Given the soaring rate of males transitioning to females, it does make you wonder if the oestrogen given to animals in huge quantities has something to do with it.

[AuldAlliance]

Supermarkets can't label produce if they don't know its origin, which is what the US wants to imposer, because it knows labelling hurts it exports. Sure, the UK can try and fight, but in the meantime it will have to source food from somewhere, since it doesn't produce enough.

MPs overturned a Lords amendement recently which aimed at mitigating the effects of this.
www.which.co.uk/news/2020/06/why-labels-wont-protect-uk-food-standards-from-a-us-trade-deal/
www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-54506185

[AuldAlliance]

Meat is still labelled in America
For the domestic market.

[thegcatsmother]

I do buy locally from a Food Hub where the veg is grown within a half hour of me, and I use a local butcher, or again, buy from local farmers.

If there is no demand, then the U.S. will realise there is no margin.

[Rummikub]

@thegcatsmother

I do buy locally from a Food Hub where the veg is grown within a half hour of me, and I use a local butcher, or again, buy from local farmers.

If there is no demand, then the U.S. will realise there is no margin.

Unfortunately there will be demand as financially a lot of people won’t have the luxury of seeking out locally produced food.

[Lemonsyellow]

If there is no demand, then the U.S. will realise there is no margin.

There will be demand, because people need to eat, and eat cheaply.

[Faultymain5]

@BlueMountains5

Okay so I am American and grew up in the land of ‘shit food,’ as you call it. Meat is still labelled in America - yes, you need to check the packaging. When I first moved to London, my British friends were surprised by how diligently I checked labels at the store - it does take more effort. I wouldn’t ever buy meat that wasn’t organic or free range in America (and actually I still don’t in Britain, probably because it’s been so ingrained).

I know it’s not ideal, but I also don’t think that this future of unmarked American chlorinated chicken is one to worry too much about. In America, you see labels like ‘free range Wisconsin beef,’ with details about what the cows have been fed. etc. So even Americans are much more informed about the origin of their meat then you seem to believe.

I beg to differ. We may very well have nothing to worry about but history proves governments cannot be trusted to do right by their citizens who they think less of. So the poor. No decision is made as far as I can see for the benefit of the poor. It would be reckless for those asking the questions to be less than diligent.

[BlueMountains5]

I was mostly responding to the idea that we won’t know where our meat has come from or what’s in it.

I agree that lowering the quality of the most affordable meat is a massive issue

[Yohoheaveho]

If there is enough awareness of this problem, and at a time when lots of us are becoming more health conscious because of covid, I think there could be a demand for food which can be proved not to be of US origin
Those in power can try to trick us but the people have much greater capabilities to uncover things and do detective work because of the internet etc

[MissConductUS]

Any trade deal with USA is likely to insist that country of origin is removed though

I really doubt this. First, the US cannot "insist" on anything. It's all up for negotiation. They might ask for it, but both sides will have lots of things they'll be asking for, none of which are deal-breakers. Second, we have COOL in the US:

Country of Origin Labeling (COOL)

[Lemonsyellow]

I was mostly responding to the idea that we won’t know where our meat has come from or what’s in it.

But that’s the labelling in the States. It will be different here in the UK.

[DesdaMoaner]

No one will force you to buy or eat it OP.

[Rummikub]

Some people will research their food
But many will not

In the mean time the health of the nation will be adversely affected.
But hey it’s their fault right for not eating well.

[Devilesko]

I buy from local markets and avoid packet stuff as much as possible.
Cooking from scratch will avoid American shite.

[Rummikub]

@DesdaMoaner

No one will force you to buy or eat it OP.

There won’t be choice

[Lemonsyellow]

Second, we have COOL in the US:

It’s irrelevant what the labelling system is like in the US. Just like cigarette or baby milk warning and branding is different across the world.

[Weeeare]

All you saying READ THE PACKAGING are ignoring a super important fact.
Lots of food provided to people doesn’t have packaging included - takeaways, restaurants, schools, hospitals, prisons, etc.
Guess where all of this dodgy American food will go?

[Baaaahhhhh]

WTO rules do not restrict voluntary systems of labelling or other indicators that may be useful to consumers, to inform them of the origin and standards that apply to the production of food

This is an interesting read, niche, but could apply to locally produced products:

www.pastureforlife.org/media/2020/06/WTO-and-labeling-FINAL.pdf

[Lemonsyellow]

@Devilesko

I buy from local markets and avoid packet stuff as much as possible.
Cooking from scratch will avoid American shite.

Where do your local markets get their food from? Cooking from scratch will make little difference.