I don't want shit food from the US

[flashbac]

So word has it BJ is waiting to see who wins US election. Trump = no deal with EU. Biden = half arsed attempt at EU deal.
I think Trump might win because too many people are so gullible and brainwashed.
So how can we avoid eating crap food from the US? Thus far EU standards have protected us from dangerous additives, excessive phalates in packaging, the list is long.

Time to get an allotment...

The idea that people will be 'forced' to eat random unknown meats is ridiculous.

The fact it's already happened with the current regulations in place means that such cheerfully thick and unsubstantiated comments can be quickly dismissed. Although possible supporting evidence for the correlation between imagination and intelligence.

SerendipityJane

Surely the poster was referring to meat purchased at the meat counter/supermarket butcher - not French horsemeat in ready meals.

Labelling from an American supermarket;

"New Zealand Lamb 85% Lean Ground Lamb Brings Hearty Protein To Sandwiches, Curries And Casseroles With Reduced Fat. Enrich Your Recipes With Premium Meat Made From High-quality Livestock That Graze On The Lush Pastural Landscapes Of New Zealand. Use This 16 Oz. Portion Of Ground Lamb To Whip Up Juicy Burgers And Wraps Or Savory Stews And Pastas While Enjoying Peace Of Mind That Every Bite Is Free Of Added Hormones, Antibiotics And Artificial Ingredients."

When I was talking about a lack of imagination, I wasn't referring to simple regurgitation of other peoples scrawlings.

But I guess it still fits.

“Time to get an allotment”

I’m an allotmenter, or rather half of one. I had to wait 3 and a half years for it, and I expect I’ll be told where to go if I ask for another half. Some allotments have 10 yr waiting lists, some have completely closed them down. With that level of demand you’d think more would be opening, but somehow they’re just not as important as new golf courses for the likes of Trump. It’s a good reminder of how important Britain’s people are in Britain.

Didn’t the government say something about having no obligation to feed their people in fact? I’d really really really like to know what obligations they think they do have and why they think we should be supporting them.

MayYouLiveInInterestingTimes

Parliamentary Questions and Answers here;

questions-statements.parliament.uk/written-questions/detail/2019-07-25/282357

questions-statements.parliament.uk/written-questions/detail/2019-07-23/281010

This thread is full of selfish sounding people who don't give a stuff about people in care homes, schools, hospital, poor people, city dwellers, etc.

"I'm alright jack"

"Just grow some swedes, get an allotment, buy organic..." ad nauseam.

And if I hear "rEad tHe lAbEl" one more time...!

But hey, we are just paranoid aren't we? So are all the farmers taking time out of their busy lives to protest.

@flashbac

This thread is full of selfish sounding people who don't give a stuff about people in care homes, schools, hospital, poor people, city dwellers, etc.

"I'm alright jack"

"Just grow some swedes, get an allotment, buy organic..." ad nauseam.

And if I hear "rEad tHe lAbEl" one more time...!

But hey, we are just paranoid aren't we? So are all the farmers taking time out of their busy lives to protest.

Lol you are very angry. I still stand by my grow your own veg comment if it's an allotment or small garden. There are community inner City gardens you can volunteer at if you have one locally.

What's your solution OP? Because there's not much we can do to stop this deal going ahead.

The OP's angry because she didn't get the reaction she wanted.

No Mamamia it’s because people are being deliberately obtuse or goady. Clavinova sorry but I don’t quite see the relevance - and we should have all recognised by now that when this government says that they are talking to supply sectors or anyone internal, they are lying. It happens too often.

Have people been coming out with grow your own? Very much ‘let them eat cake’. As I said, I am an allotmenter and they are now very difficult to get hold of. Space is at a premium everywhere and many have little or no access to their own spaces. Trying to grow your own while you are renting and can be told to move out with not a moments notice can be very disheartening, and a total waste of time and resources. I had a landlord ruin all my plants once. Chances are you’ll need pots. You need cash for that and the capability to transport compost around. Plus you are not going to become self-sustaining from a couple of veg plants.

The fact allotments are so rare and sought after shows that there is a great deal of interest in growing one’s own, more than there has been for donkeys years, because we can all read the signs. The resources -land essentially - need to be made more widely available.

Nothing wrong with American food! It’s labelled as well as ours is. If you want organic for instance, it’s easy enough to look at the package and make that decision.
I’ve spent a lot of time in America eating at different restaurants, from McDonalds to IHOP to Outback to some wonderful places like Morimoto Asia or Homecomin’ and I’m still here.
And then there’s the variety! Wow, I love a trip into Walmart...stock up on all the pumpkin pie spice or delicious cake frostings - I do hope we get access to more of those American brands! Little Debbie cakes are delightful!
There’s nowhere in the world I prefer to be, so roll on bringing a bit more of America to the UK!

^oh god no.

(and some are paid for disinformation. American health /food relationships are quite well known)

MayYouLiveInInterestingTimes
Clavinova sorry but I don’t quite see the relevance

I thought you were referring to this - perhaps not;

"2019 - Two official documents this week reveal that our Government feels no legal responsibility for securing our food supplies in an emergency – neither fire, flood, disease epidemic, conflict, supply chain disruption, nor no-deal Brexit."
"In one of the documents (Defra’s answer to a Parliamentary Question)"

But hey, we are just paranoid aren't we? So are all the farmers taking time out of their busy lives to protest.

Did you protest against CETA?

2017 - "EU-Canada trade deal ‘could harm British beef sector.’

"The NFU has raised concerns about a trade deal with Canada that has been hailed by EU officials as a victory for farmers and growers."

"Brussels has claimed the Comprehensive Economic and Trade Agreement (Ceta), which came into force on 21 September, would save EU exporters €590m (£520m) a year in reduced tariffs on goods."

"The EU said it was a victory that would create opportunities for European farmers, while protecting the EU’s sensitive sectors."

www.fwi.co.uk/business/eu-canada-trade-deal-could-harm-british-beef-sector

@MayYouLiveInInterestingTimes

I’m sure the supermarkets will still stock plenty of British produced foods you can buy. Personally I have no problem with American foods and I’m excited about what might happen and what might be available. As I said, I spend up to about 2 months a year in the US and miss it terribly when I’m back here in this miserable country.
Each to their own though.

SerendipityJane
Not so sure packaging is going to be any use. Certain not if it's a red tractor.

The Red Tractor chair has agreed to step down - her tenure ends next month;

www.farmersguide.co.uk/2020/10/red-tractor-chair-to-stand-down-amid-food-standards-backlash/

DBMLI'm sure you think American food is fine but the fact remains their meat production facilities and animal husbandry is pretty horrific, we don't want hormone pumped beef and chlorinated chicken, the UK has come a long way from various meat scandals in the past, and for the UK to accept US meat would be a backward step.

Teddy, ok you don’t and I respect that. I won’t force you to eat it. But I personally have no problem with it, so hopefully I’ll get to make my choice too. I resent other people trying to take away my choice.

But what we are talking about is Americans taking away our choice. And yes, each to their own.

DBML, but unfortunately that's what this whole post is about, we won't have a choice, because part of the trade agreement was not to label any meat that came from the US, if it WAS labelled then this post wouldn't even exist. I wish it was going to be as simple as picking up a pack of chicken and looking at the country of origin.

Another horror where "read the label" won't work (from the Soil Association):

Food colourings
In the United States, products that include food colourings such as:

Yellow 5 and 6,
Red 3 and 40,
Blue 1 and 2,
Green 3 and
Orange B
are available for purchase and do not require labelling.

The UK banned these food dyes following a 2007 double-blind study, which found that eating artificially coloured food appeared to increase children’s hyperactivity.

A US trade deal could see these banned substances consumed by children, with inadequate labelling leaving parents unsure which products are safe.

But only if you buy American products. If you go and buy something from the American Candy store now, or if you shop from the American food aisle in Tesco, you’ve probably already consumed many of those food colourings. (Especially if you drink the American imported Fanta drinks or Gatorade).
I’ve never met an American product that didn’t have the ingredients listed on the packaging. So surely if you really don’t want to consume those chemicals, you just stick to the goods you know or check the box? America doesn’t hide those ingredients from US residents, why would they hide them from us?

Additionally, we use food colours and other chemicals ‘E (for European) numbers in our food. Some of those have had concerned raised about hyperactivity or cancer.

This is from the NHS website:
According to research by the Food Standards Agency, the 6 food colours most closely linked to hyperactivity in children are:
E102 (tartrazine)
E104 (quinoline yellow)
E110 (sunset yellow FCF)
E122 (carmoisine)
E124 (ponceau 4R)
E129 (allura red)

So I don’t get the fuss? Say our supermarkets get flooded with American products, just don’t buy them.

But seriously, you might like some of them...Apple cinnamon Cheerios; whoopie pies; Little Debbie Zebra Cakes; Oatmeal creme pies; Cowtails 😋

You keep saying about lack of labelling.

I just want to spell out that I spend a few months a year in the states and shop at Target, Walmart and Publix. I will often check nutritional information on packaging as well as ingredients. I have rarely come across packaging that doesn’t have that info printed on the box, especially in the last few years.