I don't want shit food from the US

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So word has it BJ is waiting to see who wins US election. Trump = no deal with EU. Biden = half arsed attempt at EU deal.
I think Trump might win because too many people are so gullible and brainwashed.
So how can we avoid eating crap food from the US? Thus far EU standards have protected us from dangerous additives, excessive phalates in packaging, the list is long.

Why does my comment make me tetchy? Most people in politics could earn much more in other jobs, and probably without nepotism. If you want to earn a lot more, get a job in finance. You clearly think it's for idiots. So no barriers for you.

Further this Going against the wishes of the people is a foolish statement.

Are you deliberately being goady, plain thick or a Tory revealing themselves? It was not considered a foolish idea when it was repeated again and again by our august (rich with hereditary family or corrupt banking industry wealth) leaders when they chose to take us out of the EU with no plan or direction. It is still being cited now as the only justification ever needed for the catastrophic no-deal situation which they promised us would never happen, and for all the sell-outs they are now imposing on us in that name.

I think finance is for those with no morality whatsoever, even if as a girl with no family support from a typical grotty northern drug-ridden estate I could have any hope of access into it whatsoever. It's interesting that the US now considers the UK to be one of the most corrupt nations on the planet because of their involvement in laundering funds. You are being deliberately goady.

Finance is a business that makes other businesses work better, like putting oil in an engine. If you are good at it, both parties benefit. A business can expand by borrowing money that someone who has saved wants to lend, so the business can create another job. In small businesses it happens quite slowly.

If you are building Eurostar-type infrastructure, it means that thousands of savers (large and small) take a risk on the enterprise, via their pension savings, and via the manager of their pension savings. The individual risk is reduced because it's shared among thousands of people. Where do you think the money comes from to pay pensions in the private sector?

Anyone else interested in the wealth acquired by the finance industry for making nothing of value, currently flooding the country's property markets and making it unviable for the rest of us to live here, could do worse than start with these:
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54226107
www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/mar/18/corruption-rife-britain

I'm not being thick, or goady, and yes I vote Conservative. Because I believe that most people are better judges of their destiny than an apparatus.

Most people in politics could earn much more in other jobs, and probably without nepotism.

I don’t believe this one bit. Put out a job advert for virtually any job, and without using any connections or networking, many MPs would not get though the first hurdle. Obviously if they were formerly a doctor or lawyer or teacher, in some sort of profession, they will find it easier. But your average Johnson/Gove/Osbourne dabblers in journalism wouldn’t get far in any job application.

Family-wise, my parents and parents-in-law are taking nothing from the state. They have worked full time since they left school in the early 1950s, and are now in their late 80s. My DMIL is paying every penny of her care home fees from pension, savings and the property they paid off through working all those years, and subsidising anyone the local authority asks the care home to take. If she lives another few years (the joy of longevity) she will not cost the public purse a penny.

Those articles are ancient. Can you not find anything more recent?

Didi Harding is really competent isn't she? As is bojo.
on a serious note ignore xingming. They are clearly trying to derail the argument by changing the subject and talking shite.

Me neither can't you get one of those petitions against Gov decisions going.....I bet shed loads of people would vote against and force a rethink....

Those articles are ancient. Can you not find anything more recent?

The FinCEN files came to light in September.

Read packaging, buy from our local butcher or british logo farms...

Oh for the umpteenth time! What is the point of reading the packaging if origin labels are banned?

I went to Tesco today and it’s quite hard to find country of origin on certain products.
And the writing is teeny tiny
And there is the fudging “packaged in Ireland “ labels.
It’s just going to get less transparent

US food and drink every time I've had it makes my gallbladder flare and it's so painful.

So much shit in everything.

Agree with butchers meat. We had chicken breasts from there before and honestly the supermarket ones are disgusting compared to butchers meat.

Local butcher
Local fishmonger
Local greengrocer
Most of which is considerably better quality than supermarket and cheaper.

Also, ask your takeaway people where they source their ingredients from. Domino's, Pizza hut, kfc etc aren't exactly lining up to be food ambassadors!

The Us has COOL rules for imported products, and cannot force any rule that isn't applied to itself or any other trade partner, as this would be classed as restraint of trade.

If we have a no deal Brexit, our food bill may rise as much as a third. It will be hard for a lot of people to say no to cheaper US food even if they know it's worse quality.

We're being treated like cattle like this government. We just exist to make profit for their cronies in one way or another.

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-no-deal-uk-eu-household-shopping-food-imports-michael-gove-b1286830.html

I've not read the whole thread so I'll apologise if this point has been made already but those suggesting - local butcher, local shops etc.

UK farmers are already hugely struggling, this will be the final nail in the coffin for many. And its not just the hormones and shocking welfare standards of US imports - which is bad enough in itself. But the slaughter and processing processes which are also so far below UK and EU standards.

UK farmers just won't be able to compete and soon enough all your local produce is likely to disappear too.

Unfortunately the gloves are off, the Tories have decided that they do not give a crap.

You have the power to stop this - don’t buy it. If the crap isn’t purchased, it’s not making money. Go support your local butchers, local food markets etc. Write to your food store telling them what you want

Don’t buy any crap.

With that said, you know one of the biggest issues in food in USA is the addition of sugar to do many things. Yet we have a sugar tax. UK is big in not having sugar because it creates a weight problem, a diabetes problem and that ends up costing NHS a lot of money.

Brits, predominantly, care more about where their food is brush, about organic food, plus vegetarianism and Veganisn (even for main steam people) is very popular. For these reasons, I don’t think importing highly processed food from USA will work

People won’t buy it

UK farmers are already hugely struggling, this will be the final nail in the coffin for many. And its not just the hormones and shocking welfare standards of US imports - which is bad enough in itself. But the slaughter and processing processes which are also so far below UK and EU standards.

ONCE AGAIN FOR THOSE WHO THINK 'READ THE PACKAGING' and 'BUY LOCAL' WILL PREVENT CHLORINATED CHICKEN, HORMONE-PUMPED UP BEEF, CRAP PORK INTO THE UK;-

UK farmers just won't be able to compete and soon enough all your local produce is likely to disappear too.

LOCAL MEAT WILL SOON HAVE TO BE BRED TO THE SAME STANDARDS AS THE US - ie - LOW. LOW. LOW ANIMAL WELFARE STANDARDS. Otherwise UK farmers will not be able to complete on price - other than selling to rich Tories, who will be able to afford it?

FFS.

And poor damn animals.

Go support your local butchers, local food markets etc. Write to your food store telling them what you want

Where are these local food shops you speak of? Most of us live in cities or urban areas, often with no or inadequate transport.

I think half the problem is that with the growth of inequality, many of these well-meaning middle class people have no conception of what it means to live in a world that is always set against you and to have NO OTHER CHOICE.

Food stores themselves will have NO CHOICE, because CHOICE WILL BE ILLEGAL.

@Bearnecessity there is a petition already on the Which website.

There’s been one on the NFU website for a while too.
www.nfuonline.com/news/latest-news/food-standards-petition/

Of course we all know exactly what the opinions of people mean to the UKs rulers, but what else are we going to do, roll over?