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I don't want shit food from the US

563 replies

flashbac · 25/10/2020 10:10

So word has it BJ is waiting to see who wins US election. Trump = no deal with EU. Biden = half arsed attempt at EU deal.
I think Trump might win because too many people are so gullible and brainwashed.
So how can we avoid eating crap food from the US? Thus far EU standards have protected us from dangerous additives, excessive phalates in packaging, the list is long.

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Baaaahhhhh · 25/10/2020 23:22

Going back to labels. If you insist that the US can legislate in this country what our supermarkets sell ( which I still don't believe), then all the supermarkets have to do is confirm that all their fresh meat and own label processed food is Uk or EU origin, regardless of labelling. Other trade deals will require labelling ie: New Zealand Lamb, so I don't get how this can even be legally binding. Absolutely everything we buy has country of origin on it, from food, to clothes, to toys.....it just doesn't pass sanity check.

LockdownLil · 25/10/2020 23:42

All of you need to read the soil association and other links. We are telling you what a trade deal with the US involves. If we want to trade with them, those are the concessions they will ask for. eg no country of origin label. So our government will make it so the supermarkets aren't allowed to say country of origin. If they do they will get into trouble and won't be allowed to sell to us. So then our farmers can't sell to supermarkets as their meat is better, higher welfare standard, more expensive, but they. can't. tell. you. that.

I feel like "read the label" is the new "cancel the cheque". But worse because by not bothering to inform yourselves and voting for these people you have fucked things for all of us.

PercyKirke · 26/10/2020 00:42

Don't buy it. If "country of origin" is banned you can bet every UK producer will fund some way to trumpet that theirs is a homegrown product (& probably put the price up accordingly).

Rummikub · 26/10/2020 00:51

Check the links
Country of origin will not be allowed by any future trade deal
Meat fruit veg wheat flour

ZombieFan · 26/10/2020 00:52

Never heard of a single British tourist complaining about the food in the US. I think it's about 4 million a year. But hey dont let the truth get in the way of a good MN story.

Rummikub · 26/10/2020 00:55

Think it’s different eating fructose syrup, pesticide heavy/ antibiotic laden food once a year on holiday
Compared to it being a consistent in our diet.

Scatterlingsofafrica · 26/10/2020 01:21

I live in the US and the food I eat ( mostly from Aldi!) is perfectly good and wholesome, mostly organic, with hardly any additives.

Blueberries0112 · 26/10/2020 01:41

Half of the stuffs we get isn’t even from the U.S.

Blueberries0112 · 26/10/2020 01:44

It is either we get our stuffs from other countries and packed in the U.S. or we get our ingredients from other countries (it could be cocoa , sugar, etc)

Blueberries0112 · 26/10/2020 01:47

Oh and I live in the US (many generations here) so I am referring to the packaging food we eat, it’s always involved another country.

Blueberries0112 · 26/10/2020 01:51

Just buy local and start growing your own food

TomNooksBalanceBook · 26/10/2020 02:29

The only meAt I eat is chicken but if it’s chlorinated and/or unmarked I’ll go veggie. There’s no local butcher and I’m not well enough off to source farm reared happy chickens regularly. I love lentils... try dipping them in bleach trump

Rummikub · 26/10/2020 07:56

It’s the veg too and the grain
Look at the soil association link I posted earlier

queenofarles · 26/10/2020 08:08

British boxes said "Duchy chicken" " Kent Farm apples", you would know
I think one of the big supermarkets Import Eastern European produce, with English sounding names like Mulberry hill farm to give the impression it was raised in the UK .

One of the positive things about Covid, at least for me, is that it made us shop elsewhere, I now mostly shop at smaller grocers.

silentpool · 26/10/2020 08:49

I think there has to be a move away from cheap food. It's cheap because they cut corners somewhere along the line.

There is always a price to be paid for cheap food, be it health, low wage workers, animal cruelty etc. The fact is, if you buy that food, you are voting for this to continue. A chicken should not cost 3/4/5 pounds. The reason US poultry is doused in chlorine is because people insist on cheap meat and corners get cut in terms of hygiene and food safety.

OssomMummy1 · 26/10/2020 08:53

Go vegetarian, NOT Vegan

Teddy1970 · 26/10/2020 09:23

Just read the soil association article..grim, it actually made me feel ill. Other than growing our own veg is there ANYTHING that can be done? I don't want sub standard chlorine washed, hormone pumped meat in our shops...

SerendipityJane · 26/10/2020 09:39

@Blueberries0112

Oh and I live in the US (many generations here) so I am referring to the packaging food we eat, it’s always involved another country.
But as pointed out - who says the UK will enjoy even the same standards as the US ? It's not the job of the US government to protect UK consumers. It's the UK governments job.

It won't the US government making UK laws to disguise the origins of food, or making it an offence to disclose the origins. It will be a UK government making those laws - throwing UK consumers under a bus so they can all line their pockets with kickbacks from US companies that stand to make a fortune offloading food not fit for US consumption into the UK. Something the UK would do to other countries if it could.

Anyone in the US who thinks a US-UK trade deal will make the UK "another state" is a bit deluded. And anyone in the UK who thinks the same hasn't been paying attention.

An awful lot of people commenting on this thread are doing so from an assumption that the current UK government will look after them. Or so it seems. If that is your "big plan" in life, they you are fucked before you've left the house. Nothing in the conduct of many UK governments - and this one in particular - has done much over the years to make me feel warm and safe.

Clavinova · 26/10/2020 10:00

Products from around the world will have to be relabelled for the UK to remove country of origin if we want a trade deal with the US. Otherwise, the US say it is anticompetitive.

Rubbish.
So, when is Keir Starmer going to make his 'big move' and alert the nation about this? What a lame duck he turned out to be.

New York Times, March 13, 2018;
"It’s obvious to anyone who visits an American supermarket in winter —past displays brimming with Chilean grapes, Mexican berries and Vietnamese dragon fruit—that foreign farms supply much of our produce."

All of you need to read the soil association and other links.

The Soil Association link doesn't mention country of origin labels in its 'Top 10 Risks'.

Mamamia456 · 26/10/2020 10:31

Rummikub - That link says that welfare standards could be undermined. So it could happen but then again it could Not happen.

A non story really.

Rummikub · 26/10/2020 11:04

Yes I know it’s a could be/ may not

But how much do you trust the govt to not cave into a US trade deal?

So now is the time to raise awareness and make your voice heard to MPs. Just raising awareness to the public helps.

Rubyupbeat · 26/10/2020 12:08

Thank goodness we are plantbased Vegan

SerendipityJane · 26/10/2020 12:11

@Rubyupbeat

Thank goodness we are plantbased Vegan
That grow your own food, you mean ? Otherwise you're no safer than the rest of us. Pesticides. Fertilisers. GM crops. Who knows what's going on where ?
Caeruleanblue · 26/10/2020 12:12

People buy non free range eggs andnon organic meat and veg - I can't get too wound up and if there is crap meat in takeaways - well, there's already crap meat in takeaways.

SerendipityJane · 26/10/2020 12:14

@Caeruleanblue

People buy non free range eggs andnon organic meat and veg - I can't get too wound up and if there is crap meat in takeaways - well, there's already crap meat in takeaways.
That's the spirit ! Smile