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I don't want shit food from the US

563 replies

flashbac · 25/10/2020 10:10

So word has it BJ is waiting to see who wins US election. Trump = no deal with EU. Biden = half arsed attempt at EU deal.
I think Trump might win because too many people are so gullible and brainwashed.
So how can we avoid eating crap food from the US? Thus far EU standards have protected us from dangerous additives, excessive phalates in packaging, the list is long.

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SerendipityJane · 25/10/2020 17:20

@WantANewHome

As I understand it the house of lords did not allow it, or so i read in the times.
But do you understand that the House of Commons can tell the House of Lords to "fuck off you old duffers, how dare you interfere with the will of the people" ?
WantANewHome · 25/10/2020 17:21

Well... It's not the will of the people

Lemonsyellow · 25/10/2020 17:26

@Mamamia456

Lemonsyellow - So no evidence then, just your opinion basically.
It’s not my opinion. Just do some basic research. It’s not hard.
SerendipityJane · 25/10/2020 17:32

@WantANewHome

Well... It's not the will of the people
But it is. Every step of the way it has been.

If the UK has been ridiculed abroad for wanting it's EU cake and eating it, then turning things 180 degrees, people who voted for Brexit - 52% as we were told until we could recite it backwards in our sleep - can't get all squeamish now about having to eat a few chlorinated chickens in the name of their will. It was always going to happen.

The only way to have shown it wasn't the will of the people would have been to have demonstrated it by not voting for it, the Tory government of 2017 or the Tory government of 2019.

WantANewHome · 25/10/2020 17:35

Serendipityjane

Huh? How are you inferring that everyone who voted for brexit and/or everyone who voted for the government, wants to eat imported American food?

I think you're making quite a leap there.

Rummikub · 25/10/2020 17:41

I doubt the full implications were thought About
Or dismissed as scaremongering

GrumpyHoonMain · 25/10/2020 17:45

@AuldAlliance

Mainly because Indian and Chinese chicken (for export) isn’t chlorinated but is still far, far cheaper than US meat even with a mark up. Does the UK have trade deals to import those? Is it planning to negotiate one? The country the gvmt has repeatedly stated it will make a trade deal with is the US: the country aware that its exports are harmed by labelling and food standards.
They are further along in a trade deal with China and India than the US.
SerendipityJane · 25/10/2020 17:54

@WantANewHome

Serendipityjane

Huh? How are you inferring that everyone who voted for brexit and/or everyone who voted for the government, wants to eat imported American food?

I think you're making quite a leap there.

It's a leap that is supported on both sides of the chasm.

People were warned that one of the effects of leaving the EU was a lowering of food standards. They voted to leave anyway. They were then warned that letting the Tories run Brexit would pretty much guarantee that. They voted the Tories in. It then became clear over 2 years that a Tory Brexit would benefit no one but the Tories, and certainly entail a loss of food hygiene standards. But they voted Tory anyway.

And here we are. Implementing the 4 year old will of the people.

If all of this had happened the day after the referendum, I may have a different view. But with 2 opportunities to change their minds, it's clear this is exactly what people wanted. And even it it isn't, it's clearly what they are getting so better to make peace with it now, rather than waste too much energy on lost causes. Especially if you're old and probably not too long for this world like me. Be a shame to go out cross.

Eng123 · 25/10/2020 18:02

It's a lowering of standards and direct intervention to stop the consumer from identifying the origin of the food they buy. It was obvious that this would happen if we exited the EU. The thing is the people that voted brexit were to dim to understand or to ignorant to listen!

WantANewHome · 25/10/2020 18:12

This has turned into a rehash of the brexit arguments so I'm gonna respectfully withdraw.

With reference to the original question about the food from the usa, if the country of origin is no longer printed on the label at all, I just won't buy it. Surely it is better to encourage others to do the same and when the supermarkets are left with piles of unsold unlabelled food, they will look to their suppliers and demand change, irrespective if the legislation.

I don't really have any other comment than that.

Goodnight all.

Mamamia456 · 25/10/2020 18:15

Perhaps the deal with the US will be we have their chlorinated chicken and they can have our turkey twizzlers, apparently they're making a come back!

LockdownLil · 25/10/2020 18:32

if the country of origin is no longer printed on the label at all, I just won't buy it

AAAAHGHHHH! There will be NO FOOD WITH COUNTRY OF ORIGIN PRINTED ON! it will be ILLEGAL to do so.

LockdownLil · 25/10/2020 18:33

You will be living on fresh air!

And also it's not just you! Haven't you taken in board the points about school dinners, care homes, prisons, restaurants, all packaged food? Why are you so wilfully blind?

queenofarles · 25/10/2020 18:33

There is plenty of healthy food in US, but it’s not cheap, far more expensive than anything in UK or EU , and much harder to find in some places.

blueangel19 · 25/10/2020 18:36

‘That's why Donald Trump 'loves the poorly educated' and isn't interested in any kind of health care plan’ did not know the food was different with Obama 😂

BMW6 · 25/10/2020 18:36

I voted to leave the EU, but if I am not confident that the chicken available is not chlorinated I won't be buying it!

If I need to pay a lot more for British reared chicken, fine. Same as for any other produce - I buy British to support our farmers etc. If supermarkets stop identifying British I won't buy from them. I'll take my custom elsewhere (farm shops).

blueangel19 · 25/10/2020 18:38

And Obamacare was a big failure but yes I get it you hate Donald Trump

Rummikub · 25/10/2020 18:39

There may not be any farm shops left
As the market will be flooded with cheap US imports

romeolovedjulliet · 25/10/2020 18:41

what's wrong with actually reading labels or orgin and working itout from there ? hardly difficult.

Rummikub · 25/10/2020 18:42

@romeolovedjulliet

what's wrong with actually reading labels or orgin and working itout from there ? hardly difficult.
There won’t be country of origin labels !
WantANewHome · 25/10/2020 18:43

@LockdownLil

You will be living on fresh air!

And also it's not just you! Haven't you taken in board the points about school dinners, care homes, prisons, restaurants, all packaged food? Why are you so wilfully blind?

Why am I so willfully blind?

I'm a bit thick is all I can assume.

I haven't rtft either and so I haven't seen the source material proving that printing country of origin will be becoming illegal.

Anyway I did say I was going now. I'm sure nobody wants to as it'll be somewhere up thread but if anyone leaves the proof here I'll read it when DS is in bed.

BMW6 · 25/10/2020 18:46

Well no-one HAS to buy the cheap US imports - and no-one HAS to eat it.
If supermarkets couldn't shift the products onto consumers I doubt they will keep stocking it!

The consumer (every one of us) has ultimate power. We vote with our wallets. Sure, some will buy the cheap shite, as is their right, but if unlabelled chicken sales plummet I am totally sure supermarkets would think again.

romeolovedjulliet · 25/10/2020 18:52

there won't be country of origin labels, is that an actual fact ? because i find that highly unlikely, and i doubt very much that the u.s is going to flood supermarkets with foods as well as meat.
the meat industry is already full of chemicals and meat is pumped up with water but people are either ignorant and still eat it or know and don't care.
there seems to be a lot of knee jerking and panic for something we do not know for sure about until it happens on mn and sm .

Livelovebehappy · 25/10/2020 18:56

runnikub cheap imports won’t affect the fam shops at all. People who use farm shops tend to pay a bit more anyway for their food, as farm shops obviously use their own stock. I can go to Lidl or Aldi and get cheap meat, but choose to use my local farm shop as I can be confident of where the meat is from, and it supports local business.