I don't want shit food from the US

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So word has it BJ is waiting to see who wins US election. Trump = no deal with EU. Biden = half arsed attempt at EU deal.
I think Trump might win because too many people are so gullible and brainwashed.
So how can we avoid eating crap food from the US? Thus far EU standards have protected us from dangerous additives, excessive phalates in packaging, the list is long.

I spent two months in New England last year and, believe me, all the food I had was of a really poor quality. I lost weight when I was over there.

I might be stopping my car for road kill if I get desperate

I'm going to buy two cows, 5 chickens, 3 pigs. And grow rows of vegetables.

@BadTattoosAndSmellLikeBooze

I’m vegan but my partner and kids eat meat. I only buy British and organic where possible. My partner and kids have already decided that they won’t be eating meat if country of origin labels disappear. I’ll be very happy about that. I think British stuff will stay labelled as British though. Other foods, we’ll just see what happens. I know lots of farmers so that may come in handy.

I’m vegan too. What do you plan on doing about tomatoes, carrots, etc? You won’t know they are British either. What evidence do you have when you say you don’t think labels will disappear? All the evidence so far indicates they will disappear, or, at best, food will be produced here by US farmers to US standards.

So don’t buy it
Look at the labels , don’t buy processed Food

Actually 3 cows

I’m vegan but my partner and kids eat meat. I only buy British and organic where possible. My partner and kids have already decided that they won’t be eating meat if country of origin labels disappear.

Pesticides ?
Fertilisers ?
Genetically Modified crops ?

Which will also fall off the labelling.

And that's before you consider things like the environmental devastation caused by (example) Californian almond growers for dairy-free milk.

@Thisisworsethananticpated

So don’t buy it Look at the labels , don’t buy processed Food

It won’t be labelled !

I don’t blame you. I’ve been in the US for seventeen years. I only buy meat and produce from local farms. Quality stuff is there for the taking, but the majority of food is mass-produced and tastes ghastly.

I won't be buying crap meat or cheese, but I'm lucky enough to be able to adopt a healthy diet without or buy quality dairy products. It will be the poor, uneducated or people who just don't care who eat the imported nasty stuff.

Lemonsyellow - What evidence - We haven't even done a deal with the US yet,

@Thisisworsethananticpated

So don’t buy it Look at the labels , don’t buy processed Food

Have you cancelled the cheque ?

@SerendipityJane beat me to it

FFS! If one more poster says 'read the label' I'll scream! If only it was that simple...

Haven't RTFT but the government knows there is no appetite in the UK to lower food production standards. We don't just rely on the EU for our food legislation. We have our own laws which most of the US food doesn't pass muster with.

Products from around the world will have to be relabelled for the UK to remove country of origin if we want a trade deal with the US. Otherwise, the US say it is anticompetitive.

Nonsense.

For some reason, the US doesn't really eat much lamb. Which is their loss.

New Zealand are hoping to change that;

LOS ANGELES, March 20, 2019" -
"Thanks to growing U.S. market demand, Beef + Lamb New Zealand, which represents New Zealand's beef and sheep farmers, is launching an integrated marketing campaign in partnership with leading retail brands to educate consumers on the benefits of grass-fed meat from New Zealand, under the Taste Pure Nature origin brand. The multi-faceted program will launch first in California with online display and video ads, social media, public relations and a bespoke website with information and recipe inspiration."

www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/beef--lamb-new-zealand-launches-multi-million-dollar-us-branding-campaign-300815719.html

@Mamamia456

Lemonsyellow - What evidence - We haven't even done a deal with the US yet,

The deals are all being done now. It’s never going to be announced with a fanfare to the British public that our food standards will be lowered and labels removed. That will just quietly happen. Have a look at Dispatches: Dirty Secrets of American Food on Channel 4.

@fortran

I was talking to a farmer just last week and she told me that many of these so called farm shops buy in their food, including meat, from mainstream suppliers- Danish bacon for example - the animals aren't raised on a small farm at all. They're simply selling supermarket food - repackaged if necessary.

One place has a few pigs in a barn next to the car park so the squeals can be heard whilst passing to go into the farm shop. The pigs are just for show though.

I suppose this is bound to happen.... if farm shops become popular and are unable to meet demand then there is an incentive for them to cheat and misrepresent the origin of the produce. Similarly if everyone wanted to eat organic meat there wouldnt be enough to go round. We can only meet the demand for meat if we use intensive farming methods which cause terrible suffering to livestock

Prompted by this thread here's some information about the upcoming US regulations (in the US, exports may vary) to GM food.

excerpt:

The law requires labeling only on bioengineered foods intended for human consumption that contain more than five percent GMO ingredients. Instances where GMOs do not have to be labeled include:

Foods derived from animals, such as eggs, meat and milk
Refined ingredients like oils and sugars
Food served in a restaurant
Foods manufactured and sold by very small manufacturers (local shops, etc.)
Any non-food products

(end excerpt)

US consumer protection is only concerned with US citizens (naturally). So there is no reason to assume (unless you're a bit dim) that manufacturers would apply the same standards to products not intended for US consumption. And as the cash for clunkers porkfest showed, most companies view non US markets (checks atlas and sees that UK still isn't in the US) as an ideal place to dump shit that even US consumers wouldn't buy.

www.autoblog.com/2010/08/24/cash-for-clunkers-fraud-investigation-begins/

I can't see food that is unfit for US consumption being magically exempt from such sterling examples of the free market economy the US professes to be in thrall to.

Genetically Modified crops?

2019:
"Why and How Spain Became the EU’s Top Grower of GMOs."
ourworld.unu.edu/en/why-and-how-spain-became-the-eus-top-grower-of-gmos

"Twenty-one years of using insect resistant (GM) maize in Spain and Portugal."
www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/21645698.2019.1614393

@WantANewHome

Haven't RTFT but the government knows there is no appetite in the UK to lower food production standards. We don't just rely on the EU for our food legislation. We have our own laws which most of the US food doesn't pass muster with.

Are they the laws that parliament has voted to scrap ? Or other laws I wasn't aware of ?

Lemonsyellow - So no evidence then, just your opinion basically.

As I understand it the house of lords did not allow it, or so i read in the times.