To think that Mark Drakeford is a power mad dictator?

[LittleLapwing]

Half the shops covered in plastic. Can’t buy clothes, duvets, books, DVDs, tins but not tin openers.
All the Halloween and bonfire night stuff that’s just been stocked is behind a cordon. Presumably now destined for landfill.

Autumn half term after a shitty year and I can’t even do a few seasonal treats for the kids.

AIBU to think that Mark Drakeford is a power mad dictator, and that his ridiculous game of Covid oneupmanship with Nicola and Boris needs to stop!?

Ah yes because everyone has access to or knows how to online shop, don't they?

In this part of Wales at least we have help networks for those who can't get out to shops or get what they need from shops, even some of the politicians are helping arrange/run some of them, shock horror - obviously taking time out of their schedule of setting up the Cymru Stasi.

Online shopping is available. Hth.

This was supposedly to protect small independent shops. HTH.

I can remember when a hairdryer wasn't commonly owned and I used to dry my hair in front of the fire on winter evenings, but the idea that I should do that now - according to the health minister on Sky - to help the COVID effort is bizarre. It is genuinely puritanical, the notion that if I deny myself the conveniences of modern life and shun consumerism I will be improving the nation's health. Senseless.

Why is it so hard to believe people might have no immediate access to spare bedding?

I live alone in a one bed flat, many in the block are identical and have families living there. How much storage space do you think they have?

Lockdown has really showed how unkind people can be - though fortunately I’m not seeing that in real life much.

I was in my local Morrison’s yesterday prior to lockdown starting. They were making people queue but it was calm and orderly, no panic buying and no shortages of anything.

@Noideawottodo

Oh here we go. How is only being able to buy a kettle online for 17 days social engineering?

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Because it is telling people where they can and can't shop, in an attempt to engineer where they spend their money?

For 17 days. Plus people can shop where ever they want, just not in person. Same as in April when everyone and their dog was shopping online for everything (remember all the nutters here going on about how we were all risking the lives of the delivery people?)

It's a slightly ill thought out policy, no more than that.

@Burnout101

Ah yes because everyone has access to or knows how to online shop, don't they?

In this part of Wales at least we have help networks for those who can't get out to shops or get what they need from shops, even some of the politicians are helping arrange/run some of them, shock horror - obviously taking time out of their schedule of setting up the Cymru Stasi.

Right so getting people travelling around is safer than just buying a kettle with your weekly shop. Ok then lol.

@Burnout101

Do you even know the true number of infections or deaths? No so you cannot say for certain how bad this is. Noone can.

The tests are accurate and have a high % of false positives . They've sent out used tests to people, people who haven't tested being told they are positive plenty of people speaking out about it.

Then the number of deaths isnt based on those who died of covid.

Yeah the politicians are laughing at you cos whilst they shut down pubs and tell you you cannot socialise etc. They have a jolly in their own commons bar, or go visit family when they shouldn't.

As for where the line is, you have freedom within what is the law. It was never a crime to go out and buy a toaster or a kettle. You were free to shop for what you needed.

I'm a key worker too, I've had loads of deaths in our care homes during lockdown, is this Covid Top Trumps, do I win this round?

I was responding to a poster who mentioned key workers & people dying so not sure how it's a game of Trumps but if you want to give yourself a prize go ahead.

People weren't shopping carefully and cases were increasing

wtf

It's disgusting how people, especially someone who apparently looks after vulnerable service users, can accept this.

Boris's clan have been getting many of my vulnerable service users to switch to a benefit that insists on you having online skills even though you're in the most vulnerable groups of people and will penalise you by cutting off your food money AND rent if you don't or can't comply. I've had to accept far worse than no kettles for 2 weeks for ages, want to help me out with that first before I get concerned with what Asda aisles are open?

@ScribblingMilly

I can remember when a hairdryer wasn't commonly owned and I used to dry my hair in front of the fire on winter evenings, but the idea that I should do that now - according to the health minister on Sky - to help the COVID effort is bizarre. It is genuinely puritanical, the notion that if I deny myself the conveniences of modern life and shun consumerism I will be improving the nation's health. Senseless.

Yes absolutely agree. The harder and less consumer driven we are the more likely we are to beat Covid.

It's as if we are living in the age of the Black Death, when they thought whipping themselves amd wearing hair shirts would mean they didn't catch it.

Online shopping is available. Hth.

whoosh

@headstrong27

I'm a key worker too, I've had loads of deaths in our care homes during lockdown, is this Covid Top Trumps, do I win this round?

I was responding to a poster who mentioned key workers & people dying so not sure how it's a game of Trumps but if you want to give yourself a prize go ahead.

People weren't shopping carefully and cases were increasing

wtf

It was my post you were replying to if you look back, that's why I replied. Wtf indeed.

I want to know who these people are who 16hrs into firebreak have kettles ready to explode, shoes ALL suddenly riddled with holes and no books whatsoever in the house.

By that logic there will be no consumer demand & therefore no reason for supermarkets to stop selling the stuff.

I have been in Aldi. You can buy cards and flowers. The random aisles are shrink wrapped.
Greggs is open too, which was not during the first lockdown.

@Burnout101 forgot Top Trumps, let's play 'Who's a Chump?'. You win 😜

I used to work in care and it wasn't uncommon for some(mostly elderly) clients to have the bare minimum of goods, so one fork, one knife, one plate, one cup, one ancient duvet etc so they'd have been screwed if any of those items had broken or been damaged.

@headstrong27

I want to know who these people are who 16hrs into firebreak have kettles ready to explode, shoes ALL suddenly riddled with holes and no books whatsoever in the house.

By that logic there will be no consumer demand & therefore no reason for supermarkets to stop selling the stuff.

People don't always buy stuff they desperately need now, or desperately need at all, sometimes they buy things they want rather than need, odd concept I know but that's life.

[quote epcot15]@jesusinthecabbagevan

I think you must be the only person in Wales that believes it'll only be for 17 days, maybe because Scotland's 16 days is due to end on Monday..oh wait it's been extended though hasn't it just like Wales will be. [/quote]
Nope, pretty sure there are lots of us. Care to have a bet with me on it? Loser has to start a thread after 17 days titled "I'm a massive div and I shouldn't pontificate about things I know nothing about". Go on

[quote headstrong27]@Burnout101 forgot Top Trumps, let's play 'Who's a Chump?'. You win 😜[/quote]
But you were so far ahead, don't give up now!

It’s ridiculous. My DD’s have to buy their our files, pens etc for sixth form. Do you take your lightbulb from room to room if one breaks. Boil water on the hob if your kettle breaks. And books, they might as well just roll over to amazon now, bye bye high street.

Greggs is open? How does that square with the puritanical, only buy essentials? Doughnuts and steak bakes are not essential when you could be sitting in your house, eating gruel and potatoes and BEING GRATEFUL FOR IT?

@FlyingFlamingo

I can understand his reasoning, and it is only 17 days. If the shops have decided that stationary isn’t essential then it’s them that has made that decision, not WG.

I don’t think it makes him a dictator, you might want to look up some actual dictators, I’m not sure Stalin or Hitler went through a 17 day ban on buying envelopes phase before they started their murdering but of course I could be wrong

😂😂😂 completely agree!!!

A little but dramatic!!!

People don't always buy stuff they desperately need now, or desperately need at all,

So you do think not buying non essentials will reduce the risk of the virus. Even though that's not why the policy was implemented. You're still winning!