To think that Mark Drakeford is a power mad dictator?

[LittleLapwing]

Half the shops covered in plastic. Can’t buy clothes, duvets, books, DVDs, tins but not tin openers.
All the Halloween and bonfire night stuff that’s just been stocked is behind a cordon. Presumably now destined for landfill.

Autumn half term after a shitty year and I can’t even do a few seasonal treats for the kids.

AIBU to think that Mark Drakeford is a power mad dictator, and that his ridiculous game of Covid oneupmanship with Nicola and Boris needs to stop!?

@JamminDoughnuts

In April you could not buy supermarket clothes, I dont think? prepared to be proved wrong

I thought that. I am sure people were complaining about it then. Plus the make up and electrical section in Boots was roped off.

I want to know who these people are who 16hrs into firebreak have kettles ready to explode, shoes ALL suddenly riddled with holes and no books whatsoever in the house. Even my vulnerable service users are managing better than that.

@littlbrowndog

Yeah misseliza. Your dad can buy 20 fags and a bottle of whisky but a lightbulb. No that would be outrageous buying that lightbulb

“Supplies for the "essential upkeep, maintenance and functioning of the household" - such as batteries, lightbulbs and rubber gloves - can be sold during the lockdown.”

And I agree that you can keep Boris in England, no smuggling him in thanks

Where do you think all the new infections are coming from then, specifically in the areas where local lockdowns have been in place for more than the incubation period?

School? Colleges and universities? Offices reopening? I'd love to see the evidence that shops have increased infections. I doubt the number comes even close to the spread caused by schools and other workplaces.

Covid spreads when you are face to face with someone for 15 minutes.

Not by brushing past someone in the candle aisle or from touching a trolley.

Fucks sake, we're 7 months into this thing and people still think they're going to catch it off a randomer in Tesco.

Besides, this Drakeford lad has made it clear that the restricting what people buy in supermarkets isn't about making people "shop safely". It's a very misguided attempt to protect smaller shops.

@Burnout101

I want to know who these people are who 16hrs into firebreak have kettles ready to explode, shoes ALL suddenly riddled with holes and no books whatsoever in the house. Even my vulnerable service users are managing better than that.

How would you even know if your kettle was ready to explode? They don't give you a warning ffs!! I hope you're a bit more understanding with your service users!!

Yabu. I wish I lived in Wales. At least the Welsh Government are trying to do something pro-active while Boris is twatting about ignoring Sage.

Online shopping is available. Hth.

Most of the infections are happening in the home and in workplaces where people are close together in an unventilated space for a long time. Brushing past someone in a supermarket is unlikely to do it.
If people really are standing close together in supermarkets having long chats then that behaviour needs to be tackled rather than stopping people buying kettles or Hallowe’en decorations to cheer up kids who won’t be doing anything this half term.

Or order whatever you need from Argos same day delivery.

Says someone who obviously does not live in rural wales 🙄

You could buy whatever you wanted in the shops in April, it was only that there was a lack of certain things due to panic buying- I seem to remember a thread on here at the time where a woman couldn't get a pack of baby vests for love nor money.

Ridiculous that small shops have been made to close again in the first place.

@Burnout101

I want to know who these people are who 16hrs into firebreak have kettles ready to explode, shoes ALL suddenly riddled with holes and no books whatsoever in the house. Even my vulnerable service users are managing better than that.

And no spare bedding if someone vomits on it?

I can’t believe the foot stamping and screaming on this thread.

@Scarlettpixie

Yabu. I wish I lived in Wales. At least the Welsh Government are trying to do something pro-active while Boris is twatting about ignoring Sage.

Online shopping is available. Hth.

Ah yes because everyone has access to or knows how to online shop, don't they?

It's sinister because this isn't about controlling the virus. It is social engineering

Oh here we go. How is only being able to buy a kettle online for 17 days social engineering?

Oh here we go. How is only being able to buy a kettle online for 17 days social engineering?

🤔

Because it is telling people where they can and can't shop, in an attempt to engineer where they spend their money?

I would imagine that this has been done as a further deterrent to people attempting to visit Wales from other parts of the country. I mean, people were still sneaking in under national lockdown to go walking in the Breacons.

Wales is a high case rural area surrounded by high case urban areas. I wouldn’t be surprised if this lockdown was done deliberately to stop Wales being swamped by tourists who would bring or take home further infections.

How would you even know if your kettle was ready to explode? They don't give you a warning ffs!! I hope you're a bit more understanding with your service users!!

I was of course referring to this fervent belief that swathes of kettles will HAVE to be bought during the lockdown, necessitating supermarkets to fill the void, so presumably currently happily functioning kettles all over the land are planning to breakdown asap rather than just the few that would normally break in a fortnight that can be replaced by Amazon, local shops/services that can deliver etc.

Some of these arguments are spectacularly missing the point. This isn’t about whether or not buying a kettle is a risky activity in terms of catching Covid, it’s because the question was raised in the sennedd - smaller retailers who don’t sell food have been forced to close whilst Tesco were allowed to sell anything they wanted. This is a valid point but I’m not sure what other ways around it there are.

Yes that was my understanding however if you need a non essential over this period people will just buy it online. Some that do that will not return to buying those in traditional stores. Plus as I said upthread the independents I know don't tell to sell stuff like kettles or they have online options.

Burnout101 I want to know who these people are who 16hrs into firebreak have kettles ready to explode, shoes ALL suddenly riddled with holes and no books whatsoever in the house. Even my vulnerable service users are managing better than that.

I don't know about you Burnout but personally, I like going outdoors and what with it being winter in Northern Europe, quite like wearing a pair of gloves.

Which I'd quite like to buy from a supermarket if I'm unable to find any servicable pairs.

Freezing fingers for 17 days isnt fun. But yes, if like you, you stay entirely inside a house, it wouldn't be a problem now, would it?

I see the klaxon has gone off to summon the Lockdown Loons

It's not a high case rural area where I am. Cases are really low in mid Wales.

Online shopping is available. Hth.

This was supposedly to protect independent retailers and this will do the exact opposite. HTH.

Poor babies if they have to wear clothes they have grown out of 😕 DH saw something which said socks were not considered essential - or maybe we should have stockpiled socks along with loo rolls.
In the first lockdown you could still buy clothes in supermarkets. My local M and S put selected items (underwear and socks, a few baby items) downstairs near the exit to the food hall so people could still buy a few basics.
As others have said this will hugely benefit Amazon.

Power has treally gone to his head. He is becoming an archetypal despot was

May he spend the rest of his lockdown without a working kettle, no working electronics, no books to read and nothing to do . It’ll be a lot safer for the rest of us

@Burnout101

How would you even know if your kettle was ready to explode? They don't give you a warning ffs!! I hope you're a bit more understanding with your service users!!

I was of course referring to this fervent belief that swathes of kettles will HAVE to be bought during the lockdown, necessitating supermarkets to fill the void, so presumably currently happily functioning kettles all over the land are planning to breakdown asap rather than just the few that would normally break in a fortnight that can be replaced by Amazon, local shops/services that can deliver etc.

Omg things break all the time. It's weirder to think that they won't!

It's not the point that Amazon can deliver. The point is dickford thinks that stopping supermarkets is fair on little closed shops. It's not. It's just directing people to Amazon.

Stopping Asda selling kettles is doing NOTHING for the virus. It's an extra restrictions for totally backwards reasons and it's controlling.

It's disgusting how people, especially someone who apparently looks after vulnerable service users, can accept this.