Christmas - following the rules or not?

[BIWitched]

From what we know right now (and accepting that things may change in the next few weeks) if you're in tier 2 or 3 re you going to obey the rules about not mixing households indoors?

YANBU - I will be ignoring the rules
YABU - it's my civic duty to obey the rules

[LimaFoxtrotCharlie]

Christmas will see the largest mass civil disobedience ever. This thread shows that at least half the population intends to break the rules.

[Lostandlonely2020]

So I’m the situation where it will just be me and my 7 yr old. Partner lives in seperate household but I’m not that bothered really. Last year we spent in a hospital cubicle and my daughter still had a blast. I quite likes the simple no stress etc so yeh I will

[BetterEatCheese]

We will likely be breaking the rules - tier 1 and we are having 8 for Christmas

[Ibiza1998]

WHY THE FUCK do people think

A) their wants are more important than looking after the most vulnerable and the NHS?
B) that for some reason Christmas makes being selfish acceptable?
or
C) the virus will not spread during Christmas?

I would imagine the vast majority of these selfish people aren't actually Christians anyway. (Not that I am. But the hypocrisy is sickening).

[DiddlySquatty]

@PinkiOcelot
Yes that’s 10.
4 adults though.
Or 6 adults/children over 5 as 4 are little.
And two households that are already intertwined/at risk of transmission due to school mixing.
So unless I’m missing something I can’t see the additional risk we’d be adding by mixing on Christmas Day.

[MrsFezziwig]

@DiddlySquatty
*We are a family of 5 but my dd and my nephew are at school together. So assuming they still are mixing at school I see no reason why both our families of 5 can’t get together on Christmas Day (they are year 1 and definitely not socially distancing at school!).

So the fact that you’re basically going to have a group of 10 people together is ok because 2 of these people are already mixing? Are the other 8 locked in a cupboard 24/7?

And you think your approach is common sense? You’re starting to make me feel almost sorry for the government, because whatever message they came up with wouldn’t be simple enough for you to understand.

[ginghamstarfish]

If you're happy to ignore the rules, then please be sure NOT to whine about extended lockdowns, more job losses etc afterwards ...

[DiddlySquatty]

It would already be a much smaller gathering than normal. Only would be seeing them because we are mixing already due to school.

[CoronaIsWatching]

@Ibiza1998

WHY THE FUCK do people think

A) their wants are more important than looking after the most vulnerable and the NHS?
B) that for some reason Christmas makes being selfish acceptable?
or
C) the virus will not spread during Christmas?

I would imagine the vast majority of these selfish people aren't actually Christians anyway. (Not that I am. But the hypocrisy is sickening).

Wind yer neck in, you have no more right to tell us not to spend Xmas with our families than Doris

[Freddiefox]

If you are going FB to break the rules please don’t send your child to school or nursery for 14 days afterward. You can make the choice to expose yourself to more people but please don’t force that choice on the rest of us with either children in school or the school workers.

By all means break the rules, but take the consequences of that choice.

[StCharlotte]

@cowboyboot

We will be breaking the rules, there will be 4 households for dinner and 11 people.

Oh well I suppose a fine divided by 11 is manageable

[DiddlySquatty]

Maybe I’m missing something 🤔
But if someone in one of our families had the virus I’d be surprised if it didn’t transmit between us. These are 5 year old cousins into the same class at school who do a lot of physical playing together.
I would’ve thought therefore than any additional risk of mixing on Christmas Day is negligible.
Obviously will be different if they haven’t been at school by then.

[olderwhynotwiser]

There will be 7 of us on the day, so not exactly sticking to the rules. Dh and I are bubbled with my 89 year old mother and no way is she spending Christmas day alone. We will also have dd, sil and 2 dgc. One day.

[itsgettingcoldoutside]

I'll be following rules
It shocks me, how arrogant people are about this. I am guessing most of those people, have not had close family or friends, with covid.
Just remember. When you are affected
You can't visit them in hospital
No one can visit you in Hospital

And all for the sake of breaking rules at Christmas.

[DiddlySquatty]

And it’s not ‘10 people’
One is a babe in arms
Another 3 are 5 and under.

[DeliciouslyFemale]

Well two of the most vulnerable will be in my home over Christmas. 🤷🏻‍♀️

I have followed the rules religiously and even took my youngest out of her SN college, because I’m so concerned about her, but I’m not going to bury my oldest in the new year, because his MH always dips on special days. However I know I’m a hypocrite, because I’m twitching at some posters, therefore I’m staying out of it, regarding their arrangements.

I honestly think, unless the whole of the U.K. and NI is tear 3 or higher, the government will relax the rules over Christmas. I feel so sorry for those that couldn’t celebrate Eid with their families, but the government will know that if they don’t relax the rules, loads will break them anyway.

[DiddlySquatty]

I know our government makes no distinction for babies/children but others do so the science is not clear cut on that.

[MillicentMartha]

DS3 is at university in his first year in a tier 3 area. I bloody hope he can come home for Christmas. Otherwise it’ll just be me and my DS2 who has SN.

[Venezia222]

Yes because I’m not a dickhead

[DeliciouslyFemale]

@Venezia222

Yes because I’m not a dickhead

Do you live alone, with no family nearby?

[ginghamstarfish]

Well this is depressing (and baffling) reading. We're all fucked, aren't we, thanks to those of you who think you're special and magically immune to catching/passing on the virus.

[MrsFezziwig]

So unless I’m missing something I can’t see the additional risk we’d be adding by mixing on Christmas Day.

@DiddlySquatty let me try it again. Unless the 4 adults never set foot outside their respective homes then of course you’re increasing the risk by having 4 adults together instead of 2!

[MiracletoCome]

We don’t know what rules we will have to follow so I don’t know if I will follow them

[DeliciouslyFemale]

I’m now picturing Boris sitting reading Mumsnet, finding this thread and thinking, “aww bollocks!” 😁

[DeliciouslyFemale]

@MiracletoCome

We don’t know what rules we will have to follow so I don’t know if I will follow them

Exactly.