Christmas - following the rules or not?

[BIWitched]

From what we know right now (and accepting that things may change in the next few weeks) if you're in tier 2 or 3 re you going to obey the rules about not mixing households indoors?

YANBU - I will be ignoring the rules
YABU - it's my civic duty to obey the rules

[CoronaIsWatching]

I'll probably go to my parents xmas day, but that's it. And obviously not if I have symptoms or the app tells me to isolate. I won't be hugging them or getting too close.

I couldn't believe that Scottish health advisor in the news today saying the Scottish need to prepare for a digital Christmas and they wont be allowed to see family. Who the fuck is he to tell us what we're "allowed" to do at Xmas. He will probably be the first one to break the "rules"

[Pollypockett23]

My whole family have had it, so we will be together at Christmas. Brothers, sister and parents.

Won't be with the in-laws who are high risk and who have had it though.

[Pollypockett23]

My whole family have had it, so we will be together at Christmas. Brothers, sister and parents.

Won't be with the in-laws who are high risk and who have had it though.

[Pollypockett23]

@Umbridge34

Surely being in a childcare bubble only means that your in-laws are able to look after your children while you work? What does that have to do with you all spending Christmas together? Or have you just decided that it makes you a special case?

Please explain how spending time with the people who are caring for my child whilst we work is any more risky? They spend hours with my son and we see each other during pick up and drop off. And there are no rules against socialising with people you have formed bubbles with as far as I'm aware.

You are correct!

[BuggerOffAndGoodDayToYou]

We have followed the rules since March and will continue to do so. As we are now in tier two we won’t be visiting our daughter as planned. Not great but we can hug her when this is over (eventually... at some point ...)

[Juststopswimming]

We will be a 7 from 3 households whatever the rules end up being at Xmas.

[Juststopswimming]

Oh and we are unlikely to social distance properly either.

Appalling isn't it? I don't know how I sleep at night.

[Solina]

Well it is a bit early to say but I would not want my fil to be alone over Christmas. So we would probably see if he wanted to spent it with us, either with us going to his or him coming to ours. Me and DP both work from home, get shopping delivered and don't really socialise with anyone so I would say risk is minimal there.

[LindyLou2020]

I hate all these restrictions - I feel like I'm under house arrest. It's no way to live. I miss seeing my friends and relatives so much. I'm in tier 3, and don't want to follow the rules.
I understand peoples' anger at these enforced, draconian separations, and others' views that they are unproven and ineffective. I just don't know if they are or not.
But......I WILL be following whatever rules are in place at Christmas,
albeit grudgingly. I would like to think my needs are "special", but I am no more deserving than anyone else. We ALL have needs. Posters here who think the rules don't apply to them are not "special" either, and frankly you are being wilfully arrogant and selfish. Period.

[DeliciouslyFemale]

I only have one other person in my bubble, so that makes three of us. He’s practically a hermit (Asperger and MH) and will have no issue quarantining for at least 14 days, before he moves home for a couple of weeks. My other one lives across the water, but is moving home for a few months. He will book a cabin on a boat, even though it massively slows down his journey home, because it’s easier to stay away from others. That’s it. Not one other person has set foot in my home since the original lockdown. My oldest wouldn’t survive being alone over Christmas and no I’m not exaggerating. I can trust them to strictly quarantine because they know how vulnerable their youngest sibling is.

I can’t wait to have them home. That’s what is keeping the three of them going. They spent years apart when younger, until I adopted them. I won’t take this from them.

[Airyfairymarybeary]

[quote cowboyboot]@Airyfairymarybeary we follow every other rule, masks, hand washing, space and all that jazz but when it comes to family we have created our own bubble. My parents are my child care as well as my brothers child care so we see each other daily anyway. It's not great for mine or my mums mental health to be away from each other so even though it's not 'allowed' we think the risk of seeing each other is less than the risk of not. [/quote]
You’ve created your own bubble off 11???
Stop using MH as an excuse.
Your 11 people Christmas Day gathering is selfish!

[TacoLover]

Interesting to see the replies on here compared to the ones when it was Eid

[MaudesMum]

I live by myself and work from home and am currently in Tier one and part of my family is five hours drive away and currently in Tier three. None of us are elderly or vulnerable or have close contact with older relatives (most of them are dead) and if we're all together there will be less than 6 of us. So, yes, am planning to visit over Christmas. To be even more careful, I'll ensure that I stay away from friends for a couple of weeks once I'm back.

[DeliciouslyFemale]

I’m just wondering how many of the outraged posters live completely alone, with no other family nearby?

[DeliciouslyFemale]

@TacoLover

Interesting to see the replies on here compared to the ones when it was Eid

I have to agree with that.

[Northernsoullover]

I have never followed the rules as such. I personally felt that the rule of six was too many potential exposures so I didn't bother. I just saw the odd friend periodically.
There are too many cases right now for me to consider seeing my parents inside at Christmas but I plan on 'bumping into them' tomorrow in a cafe. It dawned on me the other day if I can strike up a conversation with total strangers on a table 2m away then there is no reason why my folks can't sit at another table to me 2m away.
My dad has COPD and is at high risk but the cafe we will meet in has windows that fold away completely so its as good as being outdoors.

[TidyOmlette]

We will be doing Christmas as close to normal as possible with precautions. Me and DH are both keyworkers and I will most likely be working for Christmas Day a bit, we have worked our asses off since March. No holidays or breaks away or family time. Christmas is all that’s kept me going

[LakieLady]

@Ffsffsffsffsffs

Holy shit, is this for real?

There was uproar in my area when cases skyrocketed 2 weeks after eid when all posters commented on dick posts on social media.

Millions of folk already facing restrictions because 'we' can't do the right thing, begging for a firebreak lockdown, and you lot are prepared to fuck it all up for a Christian festival hardly anyone observes for religious reasons, just so you can see granny, eat way too much food and spend silly money on tat nobody either wants or needs. Fuck me.

I agree.

I hope all those people who moaned about Eid will be strictly observant of their local rules over Christmas.

[DiddlySquatty]

I think I’m going to try and take a common sense approach.
Assuming we’re the same as now - tier 1, rule of 6 only. We are a family of 5 but my dd and my nephew are at school together. So assuming they still are mixing at school I see no reason why both our families of 5 can’t get together on Christmas Day (they are year 1 and definitely not socially distancing at school!)

[PinkiOcelot]

What a depressing read.

[PinkiOcelot]

So that’s 10 @DiddlySquatty?!

[frankie001]

I will be following rules, even if it means I can’t see my 100 year old nan. I don’t want her to get it.

[friendlycat]

We will be following the rules. We are not special. We understand that the transmission needs to be reduced. We understand that We need to get through this Winter which is a dangerous time for this pandemic. We are not selfish, self entitled people. We would also love it to be different and have many people we miss and want to see.

We also believe that this will end. But it would be a darn sight easier and quicker if others would have some responsibility in amongst this as well.

[HeIenaDove]

Im not spending money (not one penny) on it until i know we wont be in tiers (lockdown by stealth) or national lockdown. No point in buying presents if i cant get them to family members. And im not a last minute merchant either so i wont be participating in a last minute scrum if they suddenly decide to lift restrictions in mid December. They have had eight months. Actions (or lack of them) have consequences


So if i cant see family....................i shut my purse and keep it shut.

You cant have it both ways.

[Umbridge34]

We are not selfish, self entitled people.

Maybe I am a selfish and self entitled person... I was another 2 S for several months at the beginning of the pandemic: self harming and suicidal.
But Covid is all that matters so I'll take the selfish and self entitled badge and wear it on my fucking forehead.