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To want everyone to know the names of the MPs who voted against feeding hungry children?

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WrongKindOfFace · 22/10/2020 07:40

Remember Marcus Rashford and his campaign to extend free school meals? Yesterday all but a handful of Tory MPs voted against extending free school meals over the school holidays until Easter 2021. You can see if your MP is amongst them here: votes.parliament.uk/Votes/Commons/Division/896#noes

Whatever your thoughts on what parents should be doing some children are going to go hungry. Why punish the children because of the sins of the parent? And remember most people on benefits are in work.

Plus there is a bloody pandemic. We’re in unprecedented times. People who were just about managing are now on the bones of their arse.

We have billions to spaff up the wall on a useless test and trace system, or useless Ppe but we can’t feed a few hungry kids. And le’t not forget that the MPs voting against this get subsidised meals and can claim for their food on expenses.

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cantdothisnow1 · 24/10/2020 13:03

that letter is so contemptuous I can't actually believe it's real.

Are we certain it is?

GirlsBlouse17 · 24/10/2020 13:04

I see that Theresa May voted no. What was it she said in her speech when she got elected PM?!

SerendipityJane · 24/10/2020 13:07

@GirlsBlouse17

I see that Theresa May voted no. What was it she said in her speech when she got elected PM?!
Fuck you all I think.
VinylDetective · 24/10/2020 13:11

Looks like it’s causing civil war in the Tory party. What a shame.

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/tory-councils-turn-against-pm-in-battle-for-free-school-meals-fnmc9ndsm?shareToken=69efba4b09d28d3d5805ae57d251d349

SerendipityJane · 24/10/2020 13:13

@cantdothisnow1

that letter is so contemptuous I can't actually believe it's real.

Are we certain it is?

Well, as I linked to 2011, Philip Davies has publicly stated that disabled people should be paid less as they are worth less. So if anything, telling a proto voter to go fuck themselves is a step upwards.

Incidentally the UK Tory attitude is merely aping the Trump playbook of concentrating solely on your own fans and ignoring and insulting the rest of the electorate. After all why waste time trying to court the votes of people you despise if you can get enough from your core fanbase.

Add that to the tried and tested rosette on a donkey approach beloved of some of the UK electorate and not only do you get an MP that doesn't give a shit what you think. You get an MP that is quite happy to tell you they don't give a shit what you think.

The only upside to all this is to note what a wonderful equal opportunity pastime it seems to be. Female Tory MPs are really the equal of their male peers. Admittedly it wasn't what my DM fought for. But I guess you need to start somewhere.

cantdothisnow1 · 24/10/2020 13:15

@GetOffYourHighHorse

'They got that cash months ago'

Ah right if they've been given it it doesn't count. Once given they are then scum. Got it.

I think you'll find they are continuing to fund councils, as of course they should. The councils in turn have the responsibility of local distribution.

Yes I agree the smack comment was unacceptable as was Rayner's scum comment. They should all communicate professionally. Even Rayner.

But the point, surely, is that they haven't given enough. Children are still going hungry.

That doesn't sit well with me alongside the wasted funds on projects like HS2, the track and trace shambles, that's leaving aside their own subsidised food.

If we can't adequately fund the most vulnerable in a pandemic then there is something going badly wrong given that we are the 5th largest world economy.

SerendipityJane · 24/10/2020 13:28

That doesn't sit well with me alongside the wasted funds on projects like HS2, the track and trace shambles, that's leaving aside their own subsidised food.

You forgot the £100+ billion already spent on Brexit. Just 1/10th of 1% of that would have wiped out child food poverty for a decade.

And we still haven't seen a penny of that £350 million a week. We left the EU in January. That's what 40 weeks worth ? £12 billion or so ? When's that coming along ?

RufustheSniggeringReindeer · 24/10/2020 13:45

You just had to single out McDonalds and that other poster thought it funny

What on earth?

I didnt think that poster was sneering

I do think its good that mcdonalds have stepped up, and the local cafes and pubs

I would much much rather the government stepped up, if mps were even vaguely normal they would be embarrassed Into taking action

RufustheSniggeringReindeer · 24/10/2020 13:47

Judgemental because i thought McDonalds stepping was good

What the fuck is wrong with people

MagicoRomantico · 24/10/2020 13:48

I give you Selaine Saxby MP. They are not even trying to hide their contempt for us any more.

"I am delighted our local businesses have bounced back so much after lockdown they are able to give away food for free, and very much hope they will not be seeking any further government support"

To want everyone to know the names of the MPs who voted against feeding hungry children?
RufustheSniggeringReindeer · 24/10/2020 13:49

@MagicoRomantico

I give you Selaine Saxby MP. They are not even trying to hide their contempt for us any more.

"I am delighted our local businesses have bounced back so much after lockdown they are able to give away food for free, and very much hope they will not be seeking any further government support"

That’s dreadful
Peregrina · 24/10/2020 13:56

I note a certain amount of disingenuousness with Selaine Saxby's post. Yes, a lot of work restaurants and canteens are or used to be subsidised, but we have seen menus posted for the Members restaurant - the cleaners and security staff aren't Members; they won't be allowed to dine in such luxury. I would love to see what the daily menu for the canteens that they are allowed to access is like.

Peregrina · 24/10/2020 14:02

I gather that Saxby has now removed the post. Too late - it's already been captured. Besides which, if that is really what she thinks, why hasn't she the courage of her convictions?

acerred · 24/10/2020 14:06
My 'local' (Conservative) council have used 1/6th of their allocation that to donate it to a 'local' food bank which is 20 miles away from me. I don't have a car. It's so helpful.
MagicoRomantico · 24/10/2020 14:15

@Peregrina

I gather that Saxby has now removed the post. Too late - it's already been captured. Besides which, if that is really what she thinks, why hasn't she the courage of her convictions?
She's now saying it was taken out of context. How can it be taken out of context when it was literally a statement she put out that was not in reply to anyone? ConfusedThese Tories don't seem to know what 'taking out of context' means. Seems to be their default bullshit response when the backlash comes.
cantdothisnow1 · 24/10/2020 14:30

@SerendipityJane

That doesn't sit well with me alongside the wasted funds on projects like HS2, the track and trace shambles, that's leaving aside their own subsidised food.

You forgot the £100+ billion already spent on Brexit. Just 1/10th of 1% of that would have wiped out child food poverty for a decade.

And we still haven't seen a penny of that £350 million a week. We left the EU in January. That's what 40 weeks worth ? £12 billion or so ? When's that coming along ?

God so I did, I think I just want to forget about Brexit altogether.

What a shambles.

LG101 · 24/10/2020 14:39

This will be an on going issue surely. If parents circumstances change and they have to fall back on benefits or lower paid jobs but then can’t feed their kids, surely there is an issue with the benefits that needs addressing.

If people can’t afford to feed their kids on this money then it needs increasing?

Cornettoninja · 24/10/2020 14:46

@MagicoRomantico, what the very fuck is that!?! How tone deaf can someone be?

Thank you for highlighting it.

Cornettoninja · 24/10/2020 14:51

Christ, I just can’t get over that statement. It’s like watching a someone kick a cat then demand it’s put down when it scratches them.

If people are horrible to you maybe it’s because you’re a pretty horrible person...

ddl1 · 24/10/2020 15:04

I doubt it. They didn't last election.

There wasn't a mishandled extreme national crisis last election.

chipolte · 24/10/2020 15:10

Only 11 months ago, the country gave the Tories a massive landslide, so I don’t understand all this shock and outrage. With such a large majority, the country gave a clear mandate to the Tories that they can do what they want. Did people seriously believe that Boris genuinely cares about the most vulnerable in our society?

I don’t think Corbyn would have been a great PM either but this government is what the country wanted so we all have to put up with this now.

KenDodd · 24/10/2020 15:16

I've only read the first page but does anyone have a link to a clip of them voting on this? I can't find one. Did they all cheer when it was voted down?

Cornettoninja · 24/10/2020 15:18

@chipolte I’m not shocked (didn’t vote for this lot and only grudgingly voted labour as a vote against not for iyswim) but I’m pretty appalled at the level of vitriol their MP’s seem to think is perfectly acceptable.

I’m thinking of making a collage of Tory pandemic quotes as time goes on. Saxby and Rees-Mogs ‘whining about no tests’ are top of my list. Maybe out of glitter in the shape of the union flag.... at least they’ve awoke my creativity.

Clavinova · 24/10/2020 15:18

And we still haven't seen a penny of that £350 million a week. We left the EU in January. That's what 40 weeks worth ? £12 billion or so? When's that coming along?

"The UK Office for Budget Responsibility's estimate of the financial settlement when the UK left the EU on 31 January 2020 was £32.9 billion. Since 31 January, the UK is in a transition period, and continues to contribute to the EU as if it were a member until the end of the transition period, reducing the amount of the financial settlement."

Although;

"the new £33.9 billion NHS funding boost planned between 2018/19 and 2023/24" etc.

www.kingsfund.org.uk/blog/2020/03/spring-budget-mean-health-and-care

FourTeaFallOut · 24/10/2020 15:23

but this government is what the country wanted so we all have to put up with this now.

I imagine it would be very convenient for the government if people just shut the hell up and didn't complain, as would true blood Tories. The electorate still has a duty to hold the government to account and to engage with avenues of protest where they feel it necessary, regardless of how they voted.