To think this total dickhead student should be permanently excluded?

[WotFreeWords]

I have a teenager in a school 6th form, in a Tier 3 area.

Student in a different form went for a covid test last Thursday due to very mild symptoms, but didn't inform school. Stayed off school Friday. Went to another students 18th birthday party Saturday night. Went back to school Monday

Test came back positive yesterday. School only found out this morning.

About half of 6th form (everyone who has been in lessons or tutor group with them) now sent home to self isolate, school staff trying frantically to find out who else was at the party so they can be told to isolate as well, but not many are coming forward because obviously they know damn well there should have been no bloody party in the first place!!!

My poor teenager, who has complied with every restriction, worked their arse off to keep up good grades etc etc, now sent home to isolate for the last 2 days before half term. They haven't been to a party since last sodding New Year because they take it seriously.

I'm hopping fucking mad. What sort of selfish little TWAT does that? If I was the head I'd have the student who went to a fucking party while meant to be self isolating permanently excluded by whatever means I could find. I mean how dare they fuck it up for the other kids like this?

(And no, it's not gossip, they all know who it was and what happened. They have been asked to come forward if they were at the party but so far the other kids know of several who are denying it )

[Cam77]

An incompetent government with no idea when we should and shouldn’t lock down and throwing out track and trace contracts Willy Nilly to random mates in the private sector, coupled with a selfish “I’m alright jack” populace. This thing is going to run and run.

[mum11970]

Did I miss the bit where the OP said the teenager was 18. If they went to an 18th birthday of someone in the same school year as them, then it is more likely they are still only 17, as very few will have turned 18 since the beginning of the school year and, therefore they can’t be fined. Yes, it was a very daft thing to do, but it seems most of the school year behaved no better. Unless the school plan on excluding a majority of their year then there is nothing much they can do.

[VinylDetective]

If the law is never enforced, what's the point in having it?

None whatsoever but when MPs and special advisors are above the law, what do you expect?

[flumposie]

We had a sixth form student visit his dad who he knew was positive. Student was in school afterwards. Then tested positive and as a result other students were sent home. Selfish and irresponsible.

[SunshineCake]

No need to call them a twat.

There is no excuse for anyone not following the rules.

[Aridane]

Yeah, exclude the shit

[SunshineCake]

@c190

Well, no further action was taken against a Scottish minister who travelled to London on a train after having a covid test, and who then travelled back home on the train after getting a positive result. So what message does that send? I'm not surprised the teenager basically did the same thing (not that I agree with either course of action).

Because she did it a few days before the rules changed, apparently.

[PaddyF0dder]

@WotFreeWords

Why is your child isolating? Were they at the party?

[ShatnersWig]

It's very difficult for teenagers right now

Oh bollocks is it. Try being a resident in a care home who hasn't been outside in over 7 months and only had three visits in the last 2. Try being a resident in a care home who went to hospital for tests last week and told they had cancer and then having to deal with that news solo because they then had to isolate in their one room for 14 days in that care home.

Difficult for teenagers. Sweet Jesus.

[DartmoorWilderness]

@CovidClara

Honestly they must all be hoping that they get it now rather than in May and June. I would think that most of the students would pretty pleased to get it out of the way- I would be.

I know the risk is that they pass it on to someone vulnerable. They need to make sure that they dont.

I don't understand this logic of getting COVID to "get it out the way" .

You can get COVID more than once, so getting it now doesn't preclude them getting it a second/third etc. time in May/June?

[vdbfamily]

I agree it is incredibly stupid but teenage are also really struggling through all this. My 17 year old DD is furious that all her friends are having to miss out on 18th parties. She has also lost her care home job as too high risk whilst at college and only had a bank post so no financial protection. She is awaiting CAHMS appmt as feeling so low about it all. That student probably feels pretty stupid now but as with most teen-agers they think it will never happen to them!!

[InFiveMins]

You are way too invested in this OP. Stop making it your business. Of course they won't exclude the kid.

[cologne4711]

Yep get the pitchforks out and destroy someone's life because they did something stupid.

What about the parents who allowed an illegal party? The parents who allowed their children to go to it? Oh I know, they're 17 "and what can you do". I disagree. They're under your roof so they follow your rules. If my son announced he was off out to a party he wouldn't go.

I agree that they probably got the test because they coughed a bit and a parent probably nagged them. They sighed, humoured their parent and didn't expect it to be positive. You've got to wonder why their parent let them out of the house though. I suppose it's even possible that they had a random test with no symptoms?

And of course all the kids concerned have been nowhere else and no contact with nobody else and their families haven't either - all of them working from home I suppose, so everyone is 100% sure this was the source of any cases.

OP is being sanctimonious, if indeed this even happened as she said.

[cologne4711]

My 17 year old DD is furious that all her friends are having to miss out on 18th parties

Are they? We're in tier one but my son went out with friends for one of their 18th birthdays. Yes he was home just after 10pm but it's not the end of the world - they did go out for a few hours. By the time they get to his birthday it could be different though, and I know it varies depending on what tier you're in.

[whenwillthemadnessend]

It's hard on every generation it's not a competition

0-15 Growing up in a world of masks and not touching. Not having a proper relationship with aunts uncles grandparents in many cases. Clubs closing. Residential holidays scrapped. Stressed parents at home

15-20 Loss of promised freedoms and socialising Worry about exams school friends. Worry about parents jobs- grandparents health . Future prospects shit

20-30 worry about parents grandparents health. Worry about jobs worry about housing Future plans weddings -possibly worrying about babies and pregnancy etc etc

30-60 worry about own health worry about parents. Living grandparents. Worry about other health conditions alongside COVID.
Job instability worry about loss of house or business worry about Childrens mental health.

60 onwards. Massive worry about own health. Worry about kids health and furlture prospects. Loss of social connections Worry about time running out.

We all have our issues Can't we just try to be kinder to each other and understand we are all in it together in some way or form.

[Aragog]

Cologne

Dd missed her 18th as it was April. A number of her friends had their 18th birthdays during the first lock down. It was rubbish pretty much for them. An 18th celebration done over zoom isn't quite the birthday party we'd planned for.

At least for one friend it was two weeks ago so she got to celebrate to an extent, albeit a very early night!

But she fell lucky - we are in tier 3 from the weekend so no more 18th get together where for a while.

[Rosebel]

He's missing two days of school. Hardly a disaster. Do you also think all the students at the party should be permanently excluded too?

[Tattoocrazymum]

YANBU.
Wow even my 13 and 14 year old understand the guidelines

[stardance]

What a stupid thing to do... but many teenagers and young adults do stupid things, dangerous things, things that have a potentially devastating impact on others. It's hard to make a comparison I guess because we didn't go through a pandemic when we were teenagers.

Realistically it's not just teens doing it either. There are employers forcing their staff to work when they should be isolating, expecting them to send their children to school or childcare when they shouldn't be there. People carrying on and ignoring their symptoms because they don't know how they'll pay the bills if they take time off. It's all just shit.

[AuntPeggy]

It was a foolish careless thing the teen did but yes teens do make mistakes. And considering some of the covid errors people in senior/government/advisory positions have made - it's not always an age thing. (Special shout out to going for a drive to test your eyes here). A strong talking to across that year group is probably called for - some teens struggle to see the impact of 'invisible' effects such as spreading illness and highlighting the real consequences of such actions at an early stage of the year is probably called for...

[BanjoStarz]

@VinylDetective you realise it’s not just 18 year olds in college right?

Chances are this boys classmates will be absolutely fine - but what about the staff who have been teaching him, cleaning the classrooms, handling first aid and everyone else that’s involved in keeping a school running?

Very few of them are aged 18.

I don’t think this boy should be expelled, but something needs to be done to ensure they all (the ones at the party as well) understand the potential consequences of their actions.

[VinylDetective]

[quote BanjoStarz]@VinylDetective you realise it’s not just 18 year olds in college right?

Chances are this boys classmates will be absolutely fine - but what about the staff who have been teaching him, cleaning the classrooms, handling first aid and everyone else that’s involved in keeping a school running?

Very few of them are aged 18.

I don’t think this boy should be expelled, but something needs to be done to ensure they all (the ones at the party as well) understand the potential consequences of their actions.[/quote]
Very few of them will be over 60 either. You’re massively overestimating the fatality rate of this disease.

[seayork2020]

Let me guess your kids and every one you know would never do anything like this, it happened you can stamp your foot all you like but your words are appalling

[emilybrontescorsett]

Nobody in tier 3 should be mixing with anyone from outside their own household. Having said that there are plenty of adults in MN saying how they disregard the rules so what hope is there?

[tinyme77]

I'd hope that the party host is fined.