To think this total dickhead student should be permanently excluded?

[WotFreeWords]

I have a teenager in a school 6th form, in a Tier 3 area.

Student in a different form went for a covid test last Thursday due to very mild symptoms, but didn't inform school. Stayed off school Friday. Went to another students 18th birthday party Saturday night. Went back to school Monday

Test came back positive yesterday. School only found out this morning.

About half of 6th form (everyone who has been in lessons or tutor group with them) now sent home to self isolate, school staff trying frantically to find out who else was at the party so they can be told to isolate as well, but not many are coming forward because obviously they know damn well there should have been no bloody party in the first place!!!

My poor teenager, who has complied with every restriction, worked their arse off to keep up good grades etc etc, now sent home to isolate for the last 2 days before half term. They haven't been to a party since last sodding New Year because they take it seriously.

I'm hopping fucking mad. What sort of selfish little TWAT does that? If I was the head I'd have the student who went to a fucking party while meant to be self isolating permanently excluded by whatever means I could find. I mean how dare they fuck it up for the other kids like this?

(And no, it's not gossip, they all know who it was and what happened. They have been asked to come forward if they were at the party but so far the other kids know of several who are denying it )

[Enko]

Why does everyone assume the student is 18? He went to an 18th party He could be younger himself/herself.

[Enko]

he/she

[BlusteryShowers]

@PlanDeRaccordement

Yes it was a stupid thing to do. Perhaps the teen didn’t want the test and only got it because parents insisted. Also where is the parenting in this? To allow them to a party and back to school on Monday. The parents are just as responsible in my book.
So yes, stupid mistake.
But YABU to demand permanent exclusion because of it. You had an MP that took a train AFTER she got a positive Covid test and your police are not fining her, she is not losing her job, zero consequences.
So if an adult leader can get away with worse than a reckless teen, it would be hypocritical to ruin that teens chances at future higher education and a good job.

I agree with this.

Are adults routinely losing their jobs for not complying with the covid guidelines?

Unless they are, I don't think we should be raining harsher punishments down on teenagers than on grown adults.

[VintageStitchers]

I agree OP.

If he’s permanently excluded, it’s sending a message to the other students to start taking this seriously and act responsibly and not treating this as a minor annoyance that’s restricting their freedom.

I wonder if the posters siding with the student are the same ones who think taking illegal drugs is perfectly normal?

[TiersTiersTiers]

@WotFreeWords

Going by the selfish posts on here of the idiots that 'cannot be bothered', 'not following any rules', 'I'm done with following rules' 'don't believe in it' etc etc etc then actually I am not at all surprised. Perhaps the parents are on MN's.

Yes an adult - just - kids learn from those around them.....

Or perhaps the individual is just thick rather than selfish?

[Ginfordinner]

Aka they are ADULTS.

Ah, the popular MN assumption that young people automatically turn into responsible adults the minute they become 18.
In real life they don’t.

I actually think in that case, they should be treated as such

I think they earn that accolade when they start behaving like adults.

Unfortunately it is due to people like him being the reason that my area is going into tier 3 on Friday

[jessstan1]

@Hokeywokey

It's very difficult for teenagers right now. I'm sure you made mistakes when you were 18 too.

That's what I thought.

It was a mistake to tell people he had a positive test. He could just have gone off sick and announced test results a couple of days later.

Will your son suffer for missing school for two days before half term?

[ImMoana]

@CutToChase

Its 2 days. What's the big deal?

JFC.

And this, people, is the reason why we are going to be living with restrictions for the foreseeable.

He went to an illegal party. Potentially infecting everyone there.
He went to school, knowing he was awaiting a test result. Almost half the 6th form have to isolate as a result. Not to mention all the staff at the college who could have been exposed.

And these are the actions that are public knowledge. Who knows what else he got up to.

YANBU OP.

[Redburnett]

You are overeacting. The student did not know they were Covid positive until Tuesday. The real issue here is the time taken to get the test result.

[LadyEloise]

It's because of stupid, selfish people (like that pupil in your dc's school ) that Ireland is now on Level 5 lockdown- the highest
Our health service is unable to cope.
Track and trace system completely overwhelmed.

[CoronaIsWatching]

It's a matter for the police, what he did is illegal. Dial 101.

[Runmybathforme]

Yes, heartily sick of such selfishness being excused as silly teenage behaviour. Unless they’ve been living underground all year, they are perfectly aware that they could pass on the virus to a vulnerable person, and that the person could die as a result.

[Mushypeasandchipstogo]

I would be furious if this was my son. His parents obviously condoned his behaviour too. Quite frankly I would be having words with his idiot parents, although I know that it would probably be futile. I say this as a mum of a 19 and 17 year old who have been following the rules.

[anothermansmother]

Who lets a teenager have a party during lockdown and who lets their child attend?! Surely the parent of the 6th former would have known they hasn't had the result back and shouldn't have let them go anywhere, but unfortunately not everyone will be careful.

[user1487194234]

I see where you are coming from but it must be so difficult for young people to be so restricted

[OverTheRainbow88]

I would be tempted to refuse to teach said kid again.

I’ve only ever refused to each one kid in 10 years.

[Belladonna12]

@VintageStitchers

I agree OP.

If he’s permanently excluded, it’s sending a message to the other students to start taking this seriously and act responsibly and not treating this as a minor annoyance that’s restricting their freedom.

I wonder if the posters siding with the student are the same ones who think taking illegal drugs is perfectly normal?

Alternatively it could send the message not to get tested. He didn't have to do. Lots of people don't.

[LakieLady]

It's bloody selfish and irresponsible, but it's far from the worst of selfish twattery I've heard of when it comes to Covid.

Members of the government have done worse.

[mathanxiety]

Agree.

There was a super spreader party in someone's house that caused the curtailment of three sports team seasons in my locality, and two hospitalisations of vulnerable older people due to contact with teens with asymptomatic covid picked up at the completely irresponsible party. The parents whose house it was held in were aware of the party.

To make things worse, track and trace calls were objected to by many parents of attendees because their darlings were in the position of answering questions about their contacts, whereabouts, etc even though they were technically minors. Parents felt they knew 100% of where their teens were and who with and should have been the ones to answer the questions. Morons.

I think the teen in your school's case should be charged with some sort of crime.

[Belladonna12]

I'm not siding with him but it seems that he hasn't behaved as badly as a pretty large proportion of the population and at least he has the excuse of being young . At least he got tested and eventually told people he was positive. Don't kid yourself that everybody does that and I haven't heard of anyone else being expelled from school or losing their jobs.

[ittakes2]

You have every right to be hopping mad at someone being so selfish. I’m a bit confused though. I am guessing everyone who came into contact with them two days before their symptoms should be isolating?

[BogRollBOGOF]

Going to an indoors party is daft and risky.
Going to school while awaiting a test result is stupid.

But high stakes punishment like permanently excluding is not going to encourage young people who do daft stuff (as many often do) to be honest, and limit the damage by helping other exposed people to be contacted.

[VinylDetective]

When Cummings and Ferrier et al are forced to resign you might have a point, OP. Until then ...

[GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER]

It wasn’t a mistake as such. A mistake is when you put your jeans in the wash with whites, or send an email slagging off X to everyone in your address book, including X.

This sounds much more like a quite deliberate flouting of the rules, because he didn’t want to miss a knees-up.
I don’t understand why people are making excuses for the little sod.

[TheDuchessofMalfy]

Yanbu to be really annoyed as it’s selfish and stupid.

Permanent exclusion is a step too far. It won’t turn them into a responsible member of society. Some sort of temporary exclusion or punishment they will feel (not sure what is available!) I agree.