To think this total dickhead student should be permanently excluded?

[WotFreeWords]

I have a teenager in a school 6th form, in a Tier 3 area.

Student in a different form went for a covid test last Thursday due to very mild symptoms, but didn't inform school. Stayed off school Friday. Went to another students 18th birthday party Saturday night. Went back to school Monday

Test came back positive yesterday. School only found out this morning.

About half of 6th form (everyone who has been in lessons or tutor group with them) now sent home to self isolate, school staff trying frantically to find out who else was at the party so they can be told to isolate as well, but not many are coming forward because obviously they know damn well there should have been no bloody party in the first place!!!

My poor teenager, who has complied with every restriction, worked their arse off to keep up good grades etc etc, now sent home to isolate for the last 2 days before half term. They haven't been to a party since last sodding New Year because they take it seriously.

I'm hopping fucking mad. What sort of selfish little TWAT does that? If I was the head I'd have the student who went to a fucking party while meant to be self isolating permanently excluded by whatever means I could find. I mean how dare they fuck it up for the other kids like this?

(And no, it's not gossip, they all know who it was and what happened. They have been asked to come forward if they were at the party but so far the other kids know of several who are denying it )

[mum11970]

I can’t believe they went for a test on Thursday and it took until Tuesday for the results to come back.

[lowlandLucky]

Why make excuses for this selfish git ? He is bright enough to be in 6th form so he isn't thick, he is old enough to vote, get married and fight for his country so he is not a silly little boy. What he is the product of adults making excuses for their little bubu's. He is a inconsiderate selfish Twunt.

[yeOldeTrout]

I can't share OP's fury.
I hope any actions aren't based on someone being furious.

[Branleuse]

Its really shit all round, but we should be getting results a hell of a lot quicker than this

[VinylDetective]

@StillNoFuckingEyeDeer

Is it more than just a mistake when someone they infected at school dies from Covid?

Unlikely. The average age of Covid deaths is 82.

[FixTheBone]

You're being partly (un)reasonable.

You can make an argument that this student should be excluded.

You could also make the argument that every student at the party should also be excluded on the basis of, that's why he have rules about having fucking parties when you cant be sure who's got covid.

[Impatiens]

No, exclusion would be totally excessive and wrong. If we had the 'world beating' testing system we were promised the issue wouldn't have arisen.

[Justnormajean]

OP when I was at school in the 70s you would have been permanently excluded for getting pregnant.
Teenagers do irresponsible things.
YABU

[Ginfordinner]

I'm surprised at some of the responses. He is a teenager, so that's OK then?

This wasn't a mistake, it was deliberate.

He knew he had symptoms, he knew he should have isolated until the test results came back. This clearly demonstrates just how much disruption one person's selfishness can cause.

I know he is 18, but presumably he lives at home with his parents, so why aren't they stepping up?

[StealthPolarBear]

I completely agree he was stupid and irresponsible. But I don't know how people can justify fines for him when those in the public eye just get away with it.
Maybe the covid affected his judgement as it did ferrier's.

[PlanDeRaccordement]

Yes it was a stupid thing to do. Perhaps the teen didn’t want the test and only got it because parents insisted. Also where is the parenting in this? To allow them to a party and back to school on Monday. The parents are just as responsible in my book.
So yes, stupid mistake.
But YABU to demand permanent exclusion because of it. You had an MP that took a train AFTER she got a positive Covid test and your police are not fining her, she is not losing her job, zero consequences.
So if an adult leader can get away with worse than a reckless teen, it would be hypocritical to ruin that teens chances at future higher education and a good job.

[Meuniere]

On the other side, we are talking about students who are 18yo. Aka they are ADULTS.

I actually think in that case, they should be treated as such.

Or you consider them to be children and under the care of their parents who really should have known better and told them at stay at home.

Either case, it’s proving why it’s actually necessary to have fines etc... in place. Maybe that should be actually implemented.

[Belladonna12]

I think he was stupid and irresponsible too but I don't think it has negatively affected OP son. If the teenagers symptoms started on Thursday, he was possibly infectious on the previous Tuesday and Wednesday. The people he infected could well have been infectious by Monday this week. Trying to trace who this boy has been in contact with is shutting the door after the horse has bolted. It could be going round the whole year group by now and the sooner people self isolate the better.

[itsgettingweird]

My ds is at college.

They have made it clear breaking the rules and attending with covid risks exclusion.

[Molly499]

This kind of thoughtless stupidity and those that don’t think it’s a big deal is exactly why some areas have such a massive problem with this virus. It might only be 1 young adult to begin with but you have to do the maths to see the total number of people affected by this.

Let’s say 10 at the party and 10 at school = 20 x the rest of their families, let’s say 3 = 60 plus siblings that will have gone to school and potentially infected other kids, so 20 siblings x family of 3 is another 60 so we are at 120 already and it could be so much worse.

Parents that now can’t work because they have to isolate, maybe work colleagues and their families that they have been in contact with as well, and so it goes on. Gets to hundreds really fast just for one stupid boy.

This is why people need to lose the ‘oh it’s not so bad if I break a little rule and just do X’ attitude.

[itsgettingweird]

It's not a stupid "mistake".

Mistakes are accidentally doing things wrong.

He knew covid rules as went for a test.

Let's hope his mistake doesn't cost anyone their life.

[GeorgeTheFirst]

No, that’s really bad. My younger child is 19 and at University. He ran a temperature and booked a covid test. He isolated from when the temperature started until he received his negative results and that is what this 18-year-old should have done. My son isn’t even living at home and didn’t have any difficulty working out what he should do without parental guidance. I would be livid as well.

[Molly499]

I would also suspect that he got results back by Sunday at the latest, it does not take 4-5 days.

[ThePluckOfTheCoward]

I agree with you Op, this 18 year old young adult behaved like a total twat and should be suspended at least.

[Africa2go]

Not read all the responses and appreciate there is a difference between a 16yr old and an 18yr old - but boy in my son's Yr 11 went to school whilst waiting for a test.

The whole year group (200+) boys forced to self isolate FOR 14 DAYS.

I was livid and can imagine you are too OP. Just console yourself withe the fact that its 2 days, not 14. I do think there should be repercussions for pupils (and their parents) who jeopardise everyone else's schooling, but don't think it warrants permanent exclusion.

[RonaCor]

YANBU. 35 percent in your poll think you are through so God knows how we will get numbers down.

[ThePluckOfTheCoward]

@ilovebrie8

I think you are being a tad OTT, your post is full of swear words...it is not normal times and people make mistakes especially teenagers...!

For fuck's sake, it's Mumsnet, not the bloody local church group, of course there is fucking swearing. And he is fucking 18, legally an adult and old enough to own his mistake.

[FredtheCatsMum]

You're not being unreasonable to think it, though kids are kids and do stupid stuff. I'd go for a stern talking to.