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Two kids, single mum - new country, new job, losing my mind

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liska5 · 18/10/2020 20:20

Hello. Please don’t judge too harshly - I’m really trying very hard to do the best I can. But I just feel like I need some support. In July, I moved from London to Switzerland, for work. And I moved alone with my two boys, 4 and 12. Up until then, I was living with my husband, but we’ve been separated for a year and living in the same apartment for practicality and later because of the lockdown. We were co-parenting the kids (the older one is from my first husband). Even though we are separated, we keep it civil, we are not friends though. Anyway, he has now moved from London elsewhere as well.

In Switzerland, I for the first time started to live as a single mum. I have a great new job but a very demanding job and I still have to prove myself. If I lose it, that’s it - I don’t have a partner with a second pay check. I’m very aware of that. My kids are trying to fit in, it’s not easy for them either. The 12 year old is finding it very difficult to learn German and to make friends, and has started taking it out on me. He doesn’t want to join any after school clubs, I have to force him to do homework, he just wants to watch Netflix all day. He’s got screen time restrictions but I feel like the second I’m not looking, he’s watching TV or playing on his phone. He is not helping around the house, saying that he would rather be in the UK and why did I bring him here. His dad lives in Oxford and I did have a serious conversation with my son and asked if he would prefer to be with his father - he says no, he wants to be in Switzerland. But it’s constant arguments with him to try to get him to do anything at all - even when I organise activities, as much as possible with Covid, outside and we drive somewhere, he’s very negative and is constantly blaming me for everything. ‘Why did you drag me out of the house? I hate walking. I’m tired. Why are we here?’ And so on. He also criticises everything I do. I have a nice but small car, he’s saying why am I so cheap that I can’t get a better car. When I say it’s no way to talk to his mother, he just laughs and continues. But his words really really hurt.

The younger one is a complete opposite, an extravert who’s generally happy about everything. I try to spend time with him and his brother after work and on weekends but I also find myself often unable to focus on my kids. I’m 40, I’m single, in this new country where I don’t have a social circle and don’t know the language. Until a few weeks ago, I was so depressed I was crying every single day, thinking that I’m going to stay single for the rest of my life. I’ve tried talking to friends and therapists, and they suggest going to the gym, taking care of myself and so on. Friends suggest dating apps. I’ve tried but when I do go somewhere, I feel guilty that I’m not spending time with my kids. When I’m with my kids, I keep thinking that I’ll never meet anyone, I’m too old, I’ve got kids, it’s Covid and so on. Yes I know it’s negative thinking and I should stop but it’s easier said than done.

Lately I’ve been thinking that maybe I should talk to my husband so that he considers that we live together and co-parent the kids, as it would at least take away the worry about my job and also help me spend more time with the kids. But then I think, but neither he nor me want to be a couple again so living together as a pretend family just for the kids will mean I’ll never be happy with a partner again. And he’s also said a few times that he’s certain I’ll fail on my own, that Switzerland is too expensive and I don’t know how to manage my money properly and I’ll just fail. I’ve been thinking to myself that I can do it, I can do it for myself and my kids, and I’ll show him that I can. But in reality, I’m worried about everything. That there’s only one pay check and no safety net, that I’m single and keep getting older, that I’m not spending enough time with the kids, that I’m not trying to heal myself either, that I am losing a connection with my pre-teen boy and his younger brother is seeing our arguments and is now starting to shout too... It’s not great at all. I am worried that I can’t cope and I don’t know what to do. I’m scared about writing here because I’m certain that some people will criticise me - but I’m really trying the best I can. Please don’t criticise, just don’t, I can’t take it right now. I’m constantly criticising myself and my choices already... thank you.

OP posts:
SimplyPizza · 18/10/2020 20:26

I think moving back in together is a bad idea. I think moving the family back to the UK so you’re close enough to co-parent effectively is a good one.

I won’t comment on my opinion of the decision made in the first place.

Namechangedforthisoct2 · 18/10/2020 20:26

Oh I just wanted to reach out and send you a massive virtual hug.

I have to say you’re a bloody brave woman!! To move countries, alone, with 2 children in the middle of a pandemic.... but you’ve done it and if nothing else this will grow you balls of steel!!

Not really sure what to advise except for easy on yourself and the children, it’s a huge amount for all of you to take in with so many changes.
Can either of theirs dads or family members / friends come and visit you?
Any ex pat groups on FB to meet other English speaking children?

Fairybatman · 18/10/2020 20:28

Take a deep breath.

You are doing great, what a massively brave thing to decide to go for it.

Your DS1 is 12 and probably would have hit the antisocial, moody, can’t be arsed stage soon wherever you were living. The move is bound to be hard for him it’s a big change at a difficult time. Maybe some expat children to make friends with would help him settle if you know anyone.

Stop second guessing yourself.

zeddybrek · 18/10/2020 20:30

Take a deep breath OP.

You have made a huge step in trying to improve your life and it will take time.

Be kind to yourself.

Take one problem at a time and tackle that.

Do you have family that could come and support you there for a few weeks or is covid making that hard.

I have moved with kids 4 times in 5 years and making friends and feeling settled takes time and that was in the UK.

I would say tackle the older child's behaviour first. My children aren't the same age as yours so can't recommend anything but other posters will provide great tips.

In terms of taking care of yourself, maybe a yoga or pilates YouTube video when the kids are asleep?

Can you go swimming as a family?

Switzerland is a great place to bring up kids but give it a chance. Good luck OP. You can do this x

TokyoSushi · 18/10/2020 20:33

Oh goodness OP, I think you might have taken on too much. I think it's the 12 year old that's the issue, it's not his fault but that's a really hard age for them to integrate and fit in when they don't know the language. Your job sounds quite full on too, do they have to go to childcare as well as school?

Can you move back to the UK? I know it might be seen as a failure but I think you've potentially bitten off more than anybody could easily do...

TokyoSushi · 18/10/2020 20:36

Or to put the other side of the argument, can you give it a bit longer? I think it's the 12 year old that really needs sorting out, what would make the trandition a bit easier for him?

We moved to the US a long time ago (before DC) and it was a bit of a nightmare at first, but we got used to it and settled in. Go easy on all of you, it's a lot Flowers

liska5 · 18/10/2020 20:37

The thing is, in the UK I was very poorly paid and this job is a really great career move, professionally and financially - something I was unable to achieve in the UK for 15+ years. Also, the husband isn’t in the UK anymore either - he moved to Belgium. He’s not British and didn’t want to stay in London, and his work just transferred him. But they couldn’t transfer him to Switzerland, and he told me point blank he doesn’t want to come here anyway...

OP posts:
ludothedog · 18/10/2020 20:38

Wow, that's a big move for your family, especially when none of you speak the language and have no support, it's such a critical age for your son too.

I agree with PP that perhaps moving back to the UK is a good move, just not back in with your ex but close enough so your children can have a relationship with their father and you can get some support.

Ellmau · 18/10/2020 20:38

Could you afford an international school for the 12 year old?

Merryoldgoat · 18/10/2020 20:39

I think you need to be realistic - you cannot expect a child who doesn’t know the language removed from his entire life to slot in easily or quickly.

Is an International school an option?

I think dating is a ridiculous idea at this stage - your children have been through enough upheaval for now. You all need to get settled, get a life and support network if you are to succeed there.

Is there a way of looking for other British families living nearby? Any hobbies your children could continue to do?

What you have chosen isn’t easy. That’s not to say it can’t work but it will need a vast amount of energy put in to be a happy ending.

liska5 · 18/10/2020 20:40

@Ellmau

Could you afford an international school for the 12 year old?
No, sadly not on my own. I’m getting child support from his dad but it’s the minimum required my law, just a few hundred a month. I tried telling him that we should consider an international school but he refused to contribute.
OP posts:
liska5 · 18/10/2020 20:46

@TokyoSushi

Oh goodness OP, I think you might have taken on too much. I think it's the 12 year old that's the issue, it's not his fault but that's a really hard age for them to integrate and fit in when they don't know the language. Your job sounds quite full on too, do they have to go to childcare as well as school?

Can you move back to the UK? I know it might be seen as a failure but I think you've potentially bitten off more than anybody could easily do...

I can’t move back to the UK - I don’t have a job there, and in my field, won’t find one well paid any time soon. I don’t have family there either, my parents are Canadian. My husband is now in Belgium. So that’s not an option... I have rented a house here for the year, I have a salary and an au pair to help out with the little one - and now I just have to find some strength to make it work... And yes, dating is a bad idea, I’m not trying to date anyone, that’s what friends are recommending - but even going to the gym or out shopping or something as a distraction makes me feel awful and guilty.
OP posts:
Wannakisstheteacher · 18/10/2020 20:47

I have a 12 year old and I could not imagine moving him to a school in another country at this point. He would find it horrific. I assume you're not from the UK either, so could you not consider moving to your home country where you would have some support and he wouldn't need to learn a new language at 12, which is going to be very, very difficult to get to native standard in time for exams.

2bazookas · 18/10/2020 20:50

Give it time. Your big boy can hardly have settled in to school yet , has a lot to adjust to. Once he begins to grasp German he'll take off.

Much too soon to think of dating apps; you've got enough on your plate and need to focus on kids and new job. One day at a time, small steps etc.
Look forward to ski-ing, Christmas markets and don't look back at that dismal ex husband.

Boredbumhead · 18/10/2020 20:50

I'm guessing you may be an academic? I could have written your post op. I moved cross country to a big job in academia with a 5 year old and and 8 year old as a single mum and it has and is hard work. I'm seriously stressed most of the time. Unfortunately I'm paying 2 mortgages still so have no spare income. But could you employ a nanny or au pair?

Porcupineinwaiting · 18/10/2020 20:51

You have a lot on your plate. So does your 12 year old. I think you are going to have to give him plenty of time, love and understanding (but also firm boundaries to kick against).

You do need to invest some time in self care but honestly, this is not the time for you to start dating. Concentrate on building your social circle and support network. It wont really be safe for you to date until you are happy and stable, otherwise the idea of a man "rescuing " you

Porcupineinwaiting · 18/10/2020 20:52

.. will make you vulnerable to the wrong type.

Boredbumhead · 18/10/2020 20:53

Ah I see you have an au pair? Is she a live in au pair?

TokyoSushi · 18/10/2020 20:56

OK so it seems that you're a bit past the point of no return. Are you Canadian? Can you move to Canada? Would that be easier for your DC?

If it's Switzerland or bust then you're going to have to put everything you have into making it work. It can work and it'll likely all be OK in the end, sending lots of luck.

Trenisenne · 18/10/2020 20:57

Hi OP. I'm in Switzerland, but the French speaking side. It is a great place to bring up kids, but I also think it can be quite tough to settle in - it takes a while so don't be hard on yourself.

There's a Facebook group - international mums in Switzerland - or similar. Maybe join that as there is some really useful advice and it tends to be a sympathetic group.

My kids are younger than yours and were born here so I'm not much use on the integration front. I also suspect that Suisse romand is somewhat different to the German speaking side. However, I do know people who moved here with kids older than yours who went into local schools. It hasn't always been easy for them, but it is possible to make it work and I think that the support for the kids is generally quite good.

Good luck.

tulippa · 18/10/2020 21:01

Forget dating. Devote as much time as possible to you and older DS learning the language. It's key. Your four year old should pick it up fairly quickly.

Wavesandsmilesencore · 18/10/2020 21:03

Hi OP, I couldn’t read this and not write... I’m 20 months into life as a single mum with kids in a new country (also continental Europe). I moved as I had a terrific opportunity from a professional perspective and knew that even if it would be hard at first, that my children would have huge long term benefits from a new perspective and a far more stable society than “brexit Britain” can offer!

It’s not been easy, for me or the children and like you it’s my little one who’s settled in the best but honestly it has got easier. Getting through the “I have to prove myself” stage at work helped, and so has the simple fact of the time it takes to get used to a new system. Hold on to the fact that you have given yourself and your children an amazing opportunity, and that honestly 12 year olds will find fault with everything, wherever you are! Keep strong.

Fannybawz · 18/10/2020 21:04

I’m not surprised your 12 year old is so unhappy tbh

Understand why you might have wanted a change but really.....I’d move home

Fannybawz · 18/10/2020 21:08

The reason mainly because 12 is really quite late to newton a new language and integrate

We moved to Europe at the same age and went to international schools and even then it was hard going emotionally. That’s without the divorce situation as well.

Babyroobs · 18/10/2020 21:08

I think maybe it is way too much too soon after a marriage breakdown. I cannot imagine how stressful it is for a child to move countries like that, I'm not surprised your son is struggling, it would be hard to settle and make new friends even without the language barrier.