To ask if you see your neighbours having too many people over at christmas will you report them?

[ShesMadeATwatOfMePam]

Just that really. Will you actually report your neighbours if you see they have over 6 people at christmas, if the rule of 6 is still in place?

Yabu: yes i will report them
Yanbu: i wouldn't report

From my point of view, i wouldn't report.

Never, and we will be breaking the rule of 6 for Christmas too.

My parents are coming to us, DH is still abroad for work (DC and I moved back in July) so he will be coming back plus my widowed sister. Not a chance in hell I’d not see any of those people, it’s been a thoroughly shit year for all sorts of reasons, we’ve stuck to the rules throughout so Christmas Day will be a celebration!

No I wouldn't report anyone. I'd be fucking tempted if they were taking the piss by having a huge noisy party but I still wouldn't. We are having a strict Lockdown at moment, and am hoping its relaxed a bit for us to have close family over , spread over a couple of days if necessary, as one my daughter's is working on Xmas Day anyway. I won't actually mind that, spreads it out a bit.

We have stuck pretty rigidly to rules as DH has health issues, but I will probably have my DD and her family over.

@Bikingbear

21 people = a full on party. If one person has the virus they could easily infect half of them. How can 21 people even in 7 family groups socially distance in a house.

Not that anyone is actually going to count the numbers in one house but it would be fairly obvious if a house has 5 or 6 cars outside.

Do people not remember the American family at the start of the outbreak, beautiful photo of about 12 people out celebrating a birthday, within about a fortnight 5 were dead.

Exactly. I also find it hard to believe that people can't have a perfectly nice Christmas without having a massive party. A group of 21 could be 3 separate groups of 7 enjoying a nice Christmas dinner - no-one's lonely and it's much safer.

It's totally different if you're already a family of 4 and your sister (who's suffering from depression after her awful divorce for example) and her 2 kids come round.

I won't be breaking the rules as although it would be nice I don't need to.

I highly doubt it, I have way better shit to do than curtain twitch and I have litrally NEVER known how many people are in a neighbors house

I have a neighbor who stands on their back door and watches everything constantly (has done for the last 10 years). Anytime someone pulls onto the street or gets a package or leaves their house he is their watching like a hawk. I honestly I feel sad for how empty his life must be and have zero urge to be like that, I'll be busy opening gifts with my kids and ignoring the rest of the worlds existance.

I expect it will be relaxed over Christmas so Boris can see all of his children... that he knows about

I won't. I'll probably only have my parents over (plus me, DH & 2 DC so 6 total), but if either of my brothers want to come too they're more than welcome to. Maybe if they have a party with 20+ people, but my neighbours aren't the sort to do that.

Of cause not. Otherwise we are giving into fear. Much can be said about connecting with Family and friends and the recovery and healing. Obviously with respect to the health situation. I’d hate to get caught up with all the fear and panic. Be safe and be kind 🙏🏻
Having said that a wild party might make me tut and scowl abit but then it is Christmas 🎄

Are you sure it wasn’t the eat out to help out scheme, the reopening of all schools, the get back to work so that office workers can buy their lunch and train tickets to reboot the economy. Are you sure it wasn’t the mass migration of thousands of university students moving across different parts the country? Or maybe the lack of testing & poor track and trace system we have. It’s the Govt that should be blamed.

I'm posting again on here on this thread as I've had no response and I'm fucking furious.

Absolutely all the above have contributed to infection, I was no Tory fan before and this shitshow hasn't improved my opinion.
But the thing that is implicated in the majority of current infections is SOCIAL CONTACT. I'm sick of seeing my colleagues on social media posting their pics of gin-fuelled get-togethers at each other's houses. Are they allowed to meet up? Yep. Are they supposed to maintain 1m distance??? Cos they ain't, and nor are many people doing that indoors.

My millenial-aged son and his mates are more aware than that, you don't see them taking stupid selfies with their heads all crammed together.

We have lost a relative to covid, a young woman, in the saddest of circumstances. I guess until that happens in your immediate contacts people are going to dismiss the threat and carry on with their 'we're entitled to Christmas, the government isn't going to stop me having fun' attitude.

Are people really sticking to rule of 6? Or even the tier two not meeting up inside. I think people are over it now and not as many are complying as before.

Probably not (unless it was loads - but I can't see that happening). I'd be annoyed with them though and would change my opinion of them.

I would not be able to check on that without actually spying on them and I have neither the time nor inclination to do that

My neighbour's just had her son and family turn up for Sunday lunch. Breaking rule of 6 and tier 2 regulations simultaneously

A few extra then no. If they have a party with 20 people there then yes!

I believe that its the choices that people are making at this point that are causing spread.

For example I went for coffee with someone on Friday who told me she had a member of her household who had done a test for covid. The whole household (apart from the ill member) had been going about their day to day business as usual even though they should have been isolating until they got the test result. Work, school, the whole lot.

Turns out this family member has tested positive and they are now all isolating.

Its a little late though, they could have passed it on to school or colleagues in the meantime while they waited for the result.

People need to be more responsible rather than selfish.

@Frankola

A few extra then no. If they have a party with 20 people there then yes!

I believe that its the choices that people are making at this point that are causing spread.

For example I went for coffee with someone on Friday who told me she had a member of her household who had done a test for covid. The whole household (apart from the ill member) had been going about their day to day business as usual even though they should have been isolating until they got the test result. Work, school, the whole lot.

Turns out this family member has tested positive and they are now all isolating.

Its a little late though, they could have passed it on to school or colleagues in the meantime while they waited for the result.

People need to be more responsible rather than selfish.

This but people dont believe that that rule exists.

My DS came down with a cough the 2nd week back at school aswell as others on his bus, we had to wait days for a test constantly refreshing the page because they where all booked (the nearest the could offer was 5 hour roundtrip away in scotland which would mean driving across the country and going across the boarder with a symptomatic person which is insane) and then it took 72 hours to get the result back after we did finally get him a test.

Dispite this DH work (he is a key worker and worked all through lockdown) insisted he was suppose to go in and he doesnt have to isolate and only our son did because it was him waiting for results, we had to send them links to the Gov website the blatently said they where wrong and the whole household had to isolate.

Luckily it was just a seasonal virus from the schools going back not covid but the amount of people who didnt understand the 'self isolate' thing and told is we where wrong and should just carry on as normal was insane.

@Frankola wow. I'd be really upset that a so called friend had knowingly put me at risk like that. I'd have left as soon as she told me that tbh

If a normal family Christmas then no. We will be 7 and hope no one reports us! I would report a huge party though.

@Twillow I'm sorry to hear about your relative. I also agree that it may seem less of a risk if you don't know someone that has died from covid. I do know someone. Im also scared to catch it again as I haven't got over the first time yet (not sure if effects are life long now)
I see elderly people around me who are declining mentally because they are lonely and that does make me sad. I understand why people would break the rules. So many people left alone.
But I completely understand what you say. Its a horrible situation.

@mam0918 I think there's a certain level of confusion with the guidelines about isolating whilst waiting for a result but really its common sense to shut the household off whilst waiting to hear? At least I thought so! I also think that employers are trying to push the boundaries with this as they don't want people off work isolating, which is not the best response in the long term at all.

@myhobbyisouting Yes I wasn't very happy when this was brought to light by my friend. My face probably said it all. I made my excuses pretty quickly- although it wasn't until an hour in that it was mentioned!

I find the thought that its rule breakers who have 'caused this situation' totally bizarre. There have been rule breakers the whole time, there always will be, with varying degrees of commonality depending on the rule. The numbers didn't change really at all, despite the protests, the beaches, VE day and all the other things that were predicted to cause the dreaded second wave. Nothing changed, regardless of any changes. Until the EATHO scheme encouraged everyone to mingle, workplaces made people go back who could WFH (because Boris said so!) and schools and Unis and such went back. I say 'went back' With unis, they were always going to be online in reality, but they convinced thousands of young adults that they needed to be onsite, so they could collect cash from them, they were never 'going back' in reality. Then numbers started changing rapidly.

Even with that though, deaths luckily seem to remain low, especially compared to figures. That can change quickly though I know.

But yeah, thinking its all down to Maureen down the road having a cuppa with her daughter, rather than all the ridiculous changes at the same time is a bit..odd.

Odd is quite a tactful way to put it.

I doubt I’d actually notice.

It could be someone’s last Christmas , someone be very very depressed, and has gone through trauma, I could never do it personally.

It could be someone’s last Christmas

Especially if they are elderly and someone else at the dinner table is asymptomatic and unaware they have covid.

No I wouldn't repot

Its not my buisness to judge people from my window.

No, I would not be reporting anyone - Christmas or at any other time. Not just for having people over. I hope my life hasn't got the the stage of counting my neighbour's guests in and out of the house!!

Obviously if it was constantly, loud music, loud late nights, spilling out of the house and generally displaying anti-social behaviour that''s a different matter - and Covid would make no difference. I'd react the same both now and pre-Covid for that.