Keir Starmer

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to say......More decency, credibility and humanity in his little finger than in the whole of the Government put together.

Sorry CV/ upbringing. His career is very impressive and Boris does not stand a chance at PMQT with someone who is able to pay attention to detail and form a reasoned argument based on evidence!

I don't think he looks anything like a little boy playing.

I think this is a total nightmare and we should have had a government on a war time footing.
How much worse will it get i wonder.

He is playing to the crowd, thinking he is saying what the public want to hear, he is a self serving idiot. But he is leader of the Labour Party, so you can expect no less.

@poshme

So he wants to shut down the whole country for 2-3weeks.

Some of us live in areas with very low cases. Why should we have to lockdown- killing businesses, when there are hardly any infections?

Because you might actually give a shiny shit about others ? And the possibility that your next nicely contained are may not stay that way?

@midclegs101

Starmer reminds me of the "grey man" John Major. He lacks any gravitas and is a spineless worm.

He's totally let down the women in Labour; both his MPs and members. The abuse many Labour women have received for having an opinion (see www.rt.com/uk/503251-rosie-duffield-attacked-transphobia/) - and his utmost silence on the matter is an indication that he is a misogynistic twat. All of those women from grassroots left trade unionists groups who were expelled from the Labour Party earlier this year, just for saying transwomen aren't actual biological females. Has he done anything to redress this and apologise? Nah. He is gutless.

I've voted Labour all my life but can't anymore because of how they treat women and girls. I had high hopes for Karmer but he is a puppet.

Yes, all of this.

@osprey24

He is playing to the crowd, thinking he is saying what the public want to hear, he is a self serving idiot. But he is leader of the Labour Party, so you can expect no less.

Perhaps he seeks to emulate the current government?

He is better than Mr Johnson. Probably about 90% of the country would be, so it's not a great achievement.

The restrictions on university teaching and some if not all of the hospitality closure should have happened when SAGE recommended it.

Hes just playing the game. Hes the same as the rest of them.

Also why would he need medical experts? He was QC, totally used to reading, understanding and analysing expert evidence and coming up with a reasoned argument. The fact that most people seem to base their opinions on looks and personality explains why we have a work shy, totally out of touch, self-promoting clown as prime minister rather than someone up to the job

Sadly for the state of politics in our country, it doesn't really matter what the Leader of the Opposition says or does. We are a Tory party nation for the foreseeable future.

I like him and am a Labour supporter, but what he's suggesting is ridiculous and I sincerely hope it doesn't happen.

@MrsPeacockInTheLibrary

Sadly for the state of politics in our country, it doesn't really matter what the Leader of the Opposition says or does. We are a Tory party nation for the foreseeable future.

Oh don't say this

'His career is very impressive and Boris does not stand a chance at PMQT with someone who is able to pay attention to detail and form a reasoned argument based on evidence!'

You'd think so and I was fully expecting a formidable opposition leader but he just cannot carry it off. He was very animated in his very own press conference though

'Why does it matter what Starmer looks like?'
Well Johnson gers called a fat alcoholic on mn so its only fair.

Well, he should’ve suggested it before. All he’s done is criticise. It’s all too easy to criticise when you have no plan. All he’s doing is piggybacking off Sturgeon.

you have no plan

What is the plan?

Im not a Tory by any stretch of the imagination but Keir Starmer seems to just say whatever the opposite of the goverment.
I can't help but think if Boris had announced a 3 week circuit breaker yesterday Keir would have been all over it this morning saying we should never lockdown due to the economy.

FWIW I don't think we need a country wide lockdown at moment not when there are still places with really low numbers of infections. It doesn't make sense to pay for more furlough than they need to

Nope not making me feel he could do better

@midgebabe

Countries that are recovering best economically are those that control the virus most strongly Countries where life is almost back to normal are thosthe that control the virus most strongly

So to save your job, your house, your sanity we need to control the virus most strongly

Sage implied that given where we are now, with rising cases and a crap tracing and isolation process, lockdown is the only way to control the virus ..although actually it might need to be longer than 2 weeks because that was their recommendation a few weeks ago

That's not really true. Countries being hard hit vs lightly affected doesn't seem to be all that reliably related to how they've managed it. In some cases decisions have clearly had some effect, but a lot seems to depend on things no one can control (like population density), lucky guesses, and other obscure elements.

@GetOffYourHighHorse, a good QC will at no stage are they going to engage in a slanging match with someone who who is doing a totally adequate job of undermining themselves without intervention. The early PMQTs during which KS just allowed BS to ramble on and show how inadequate he is without the back drop of his back benchers jeering and trying to distract was an absolute masterclass. No need to to challenge someone who is so utterly capable of showing himself up for what he is.

Far too quiet for my liking, given the crisis.

@Longdistance

Well, he should’ve suggested it before. All he’s done is criticise. It’s all too easy to criticise when you have no plan. All he’s doing is piggybacking off Sturgeon.

He's also made plenty of suggestions - some of which are being introduced

Such as using local track and trace, introducing money for people self isolating, targeting furlough for businesses that can't open

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So he wants to shut down the whole country for 2-3weeks. Some of us live in areas with very low cases. Why should we have to lockdown- killing businesses, when there are hardly any infections?

This is the trouble with people making the "follow the science" recommendation. The science can only really say what it thinks might work most effectively at reducing transmission in the immediate case. But it can't really weigh that against the effects of the whole program long term, because those aren't scientific questions - how well will the country cope if 90% of hospitality businesses go under, for example.

That involves other areas of expertise and a judgement to weigh things up.

But if Boris had announced this yesterday there would equally be uproar. This is the heart of the problem - none of us can agree.

'Im not a Tory by any stretch of the imagination but Keir Starmer seems to just say whatever the opposite of the goverment.I can't help but think if Boris had announced a 3 week circuit breaker yesterday Keir would have been all over it this morning saying we should never lockdown due to the economy.'

Exactly. Even the WHO are advising against blanket lockdowns. Starmer would do better to push his Labour mayor in Greater Manchester to comply with targeted restrictions, Burnham is objecting. Maybe he'll suddenly change his tune like Starmer if it scores political points.

@MrsGrindah

But if Boris had announced this yesterday there would equally be uproar. This is the heart of the problem - none of us can agree.

It was talked about just a few weeks ago.