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To think we are heading for a full 2 week national half term lockdown

594 replies

Midlifelights · 04/10/2020 13:15

DS’s school ramping up the preparation to teach on MS teams & making sure they can all use it & have the tech in place.

Teachers indicating that it’s going to be half term plus another couple of weeks after.

Given the rising numbers, it’s seems more likely that’s what’s coming - and maybe even a full lockdown this time & not the half arsed one we had before.

Aibu? I am worried as my kids really hated it last time but with so many new cases, it just seems the likely path

OP posts:
Gobacktothe90s · 05/10/2020 00:28

@ArtieFufkinPolymerRecords I didn't say that because Manchester schools were severely affected by cases there should be a national lockdown at all.
However it isn't just Manchester hit by school cases. There are loads of areas. Newcastle is another one
I was pointing out that several posters seemed to suggest that schools weren't dropping like dominos as it wasn't happening in their area almost as if people were exaggerating about school cases.

Janevaljane · 05/10/2020 00:32

I was pointing out that several posters seemed to suggest that schools weren't dropping like dominos as it wasn't happening in their area almost as if people were exaggerating about school cases.

I'm sure it's happening in some places. But what's happening in Newcastle is irrelevant to me as I live a long way away.

Hobnobsandbroomstick · 05/10/2020 00:34

AutumnleavesturntoGold

Germany's approach seems very sensible. When we were in full lockdown quite a few of our older neighbours used to sit out on a garden chairs in their front gardens and call out hello to people walking or running past. A lot of them live on their own and it would have horrible for them if they had no passers by to chat to (from a very good distance) for months on end.

Janevaljane · 05/10/2020 00:36

When we were in full lockdown quite a few of our older neighbours used to sit out on a garden chairs in their front gardens and call out hello to people walking or running past

I remember people suggesting doing that on here in lockdown and other posters literally calling them murderers..

Hobnobsandbroomstick · 05/10/2020 00:44

@Janevaljane

I think some people forget it's not just covid that can kill people. Loneliness and social isolation can really affect peoples physical health, especially older people. One of my older neighbours faces used to light up when I briefly stopped to say "hello, how are you?" from 20 metres away.

tobee · 05/10/2020 00:49

Well for me and my family it wouldn't be much different to how we're living atm with shielding (or shielding paused) Dh.

But that's easy for me to feel like that. It's not hard to realise that for others it would be a terrible blow. You know, quite able to think of others lives as well as my family's. Coz I'm not an arse.

There is no right answer. People don't have to nail their colours to one mast. It's a fine balance. And other cliches.

People seem to have forgotten that. Sad sign of the times.

Boredbumhead · 05/10/2020 00:55

I think you're right. We had to sign consent forms for blended learning using online teaching today. Something is a afoot.

clopper · 05/10/2020 01:07

It’s almost like some people on here are desperately wanting another lockdown. The virus is not going to go away. This is no way to live. Lots of people have been tested in big groups ( meat processing factories, students)and they are not aware that they have covid and have no symptoms. For most people this is not a serious disease and most recover. Some may have ‘long Covid’ but post viral fatigue symptoms are also linked to other viruses. It’s treated on here like if you get covid then it’s a death sentence! Some posters have truly lost perspective.

We are trashing the economy and the well being, particularly of young people, for nothing. What about the self employed and those working in the arts hospitality and leisure? They will not survive much more of this.

My elderly parents are heartily sick of not seeing anyone or going anywhere or doing any of the activities they enjoy. They cannot believe how fearful younger people are. Realistically they have limited time left. They want to truly live not just ‘stay alive’

I have lived through 3 redundancies ( my partners) which were far more stressful than worrying about a virus that may not even make me ill. I feel like that a lot of people urging this lockdown do so from privileged positions of high income, a nice house to work from home in, a garden, resources for children to learn at home, possibly a more secure public sector job ( like myself, I have been better off through lockdown)

Life feels joyless and pointless. We can’t celebrate life events or mourn the dead properly. We can’t be sociable with each other and now with masks smiles are hidden. I worry about young children’s development when all strangers are to be avoided and considered infectious! No one smiles much any more and if they do the smiles are hidden by masks. Humans are social animals.

The nhs may have been protected but many are now in huge waiting lists for operations which can affect the quality of life. Cancer diagnoses and treatments have been postponed. Primary health care is a shambles.

And yet.... so many on here want draconian rules to shut everything down again and use the police force and huge fines to control everyone. I despair. Hide away and ‘stay safe’ if you want but don’t impose it on the rest of us.

I realise that what I have said will be controversial to many but this is my opinion and what ever arguments you throw at me won’t change my mind. My extended family and most of my friends feel the same as me. Maybe we are the silent majority heartily sick of the whole lockdown and ever-changing rules. I am working in a school so I guess am at risk and I have some underlying conditions which put me at the higher end of the risk scale but I am not breaking any of the rules ( rule of 6 ) etc. But I am heartily sick of it all to be honest. I think the lockdown hysteria has gone to far. We should make our own risk assessments according to our own circumstances.

Janevaljane · 05/10/2020 01:26

clopper I totally agree.

Emeraldshamrock · 05/10/2020 01:28

I live in a really high area. I wish the school would lockdown in areas of high infection.
National lockdown won't work knowing what they do now it should be done by area not a full lockdown but a sensible one online learning, WFH, social distance, limit numbers in social areas, living with it while working around it.
No need to lockdown everywhere.

Janevaljane · 05/10/2020 01:28

There's nothing to stop people shielding themselves and their families for the rest of time if they want. Let people go to school and university and cinemas and concerts.

clopper · 05/10/2020 01:30

Janevaljane well that was a nice surprise! I thought my first response back would be to call me a murderer!

Janevaljane · 05/10/2020 01:31

oh don't worry I'm sure they'll be along in a minute Grin

Notyoungbutscrappyandhungry · 05/10/2020 01:37

I agree @clopper @Janevaljane the irony is that if we’d kept the economy going we could have had really great financial support for anyone who needed to shield in the extremely vulnerable category until a vaccine came out. Whereas now we’ve forced many back to work who really are at severe risk, whilst damaging the social support network of many who needed it and young people’s life experiences.

clopper · 05/10/2020 01:40

notyoungbutscrappyand hungry yes that’s a good point about financial support. I hadn’t thought of it that way. Also the nhs requires tax revenue which requires people working. It so crazy.

notanoctopus · 05/10/2020 01:44

@Bromeliads

Aibu? I am worried as my kids really hated it last time but with so many new cases, it just seems the likely path

This is how the OP ended her first post. Not sure how you got she was looking forward to it Hmm

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Janevaljane · 05/10/2020 01:46

Life really will start to feel joyless and pointless for many soon. We are sort of avoiding it by watching Netflix and running, vut soon everyone is going to realise this life is completely unsustainable for another year.

Runningjump · 05/10/2020 02:06

Agree. If anything as much exercise as possible should have been encouraged to strengthen immune systems and to get people to lose weight given that obesity is a huge risk factor.

Also, telling people to stay indoors and not expose themselves to vitamin D in the sunniest April on record may not have been the best idea.

StopMakingShitUp · 05/10/2020 02:11

The OP quite clearly said at the end of her post that she is anxious about a potential lockdown. Why are some people translating her OP to mean she wants one or is relishing one?

If I said I'm anxious about another lockdown putting women in abusive relationships at greater risk, would people translate that as me wanting women harmed?

I don't want a second lockdown. I'm in north east and it's shit as it is. I'm worried about one and we're trying to plan for one as best we can such as making sure there's paper for printer and getting dds computer fixed just in case, doesn't mean I want or take pleasure from one. Quite the opposite, I'm laid in bed worried sick about we will pay the rent as self employed dh has already a lot of time off dis to dd having a cough and having to isolate while waiting for results and a colleague testing positive and the site closing for deep cleaning. I don't see other people like their OP sharing their worries about a lockdown as them wanting it to happen. Sometimes discussing it can make you feel less anxious or get ideas on how other people are coping.

Mariola321 · 05/10/2020 04:03

I am fitter than ever been atm. Have squat rack in garage and think will be able deadlift 120kg soon if another lockdown. Was putting on the weight at first but said no.more wine and started training every day. Well not weeks d but every week day.

Mariola321 · 05/10/2020 04:07

Although now drinking too much. 🙈 The whole bottle of wine today!

Spikeyball · 05/10/2020 06:24

I don't want a lockdown where you cannot leave the house for exercise. That would be a nightmare for ds who is severely autistic. We didn't shield him because it would have been horrendous for him. It is bad enough having to worry about the possibility of attempting to self isolate without extra being kept indoors. The lockdown such as it was last time wouldn't be such an issue ( and being vulnerable he would continue to go to school if we wanted that.)

Rimmer08 · 05/10/2020 06:34

My school is preparing for a two week on two week off deal . However , it is just to be prepared as we have had 6 cases so far . Circuit breaker seems like a good idea but not all schools will be doing this at the same time . Leicester breaks for half term in two weeks .

Spikeyball · 05/10/2020 06:56

"Our instructions from SLT are that we should be able to transfer seamlessly to online teaching for the following morning if we go into unexpected lockdown."

I have already been told that online teaching for ds won't be possible and that in any self isolation or school shutdown we will just get phone calls to check that he is alright.

clopper · 05/10/2020 07:22

stopmakingshitup
The OP quite clearly said at the end of her post that she is anxious about a potential lockdown. Why are some people translating her OP to mean she wants one or is relishing one?

I didn’t say the op relished another lockdown, although many of the coronavirus threads and threads on this site seem to follow that theme. However, there is a sense of resignation and talking ourselves into a second lockdown which I can see. My opinion is the government follow sites like this to gauge opinions and see if the public has the stomach for it. I’m my experience, my friends and colleagues are not resigned to it they are angry about the possibility. I am so mad that mps are not challenging this and there is no objective scrutiny to changing rules which are made overnight. Also the 3 week lockdown that turned into 6 months for some people ( Leicester).

There are debates about the science of the test used, excess deaths, alternative views. We are being treated like naughty children.

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