To think new laws are needed ASAP to protect Mrs Hinch and other influencers

[vkocy]

Mrs Hinch has the number 1 best selling book at the moment where she goes into the heartbreaking trolling she received on tattle. They've been critical at everything from her weight, to her parenting and how her husband looks. It's virtually broken her at times and she felt like quiting the internet all together.

Why isn't this illegal today? Why do people think it's acceptable to give harrasment and hate speech because someone makes their money on social media. In no other workplace would this be accepted. Have people forgotten that Caroline Flack took her own life and nothing has changed :(

It's impossible for influencers to avoid criticism. Their whole shtick involves being relatable, obtaining fans because they are just like you but then by default they become less relatable & lack transparency. Their fans who see them as friends & bought into them (literally) feel cheated.

Mrs H is actually marketing genius, she is/was so relatable & what she shills is cheap.

And she totally wrote this book herself. Uh-huh. Every. Single. Word. All from her own pen. Just like that other prolific author, Katie Price.

Oh well, at least some ghostwriter's getting paid.

I do think most of tattle (again, beyond the more factual exposing of scams etc) is jealousy. Every single person posting on there would give their arm and a leg to be making money easily online the way the people they slag off do.

That's life though isn't? Some people are always motivated by jealously. I don't think there is any way to have criticism of a persons methods (as disclosure, use of children etc) without also having comments fueled just by jealousy. You can't have a platform that allows one not the other - well you can mod the really obvious and vicious examples out but you can't stop them from commenting. And you shouldn't prevent any criticism (even reasoned and objective) because a world in which we aren't allowed to criticise or offer an alternative view is a horrific prospect (with an exception for extremist and inciting views)

As far as I can see a lot of Influencers hate the idea of a world in which some people don't like them - despite the fact very few people in this world are universally liked and it's actually a bit worrying that they can't cope with anything less than 100% positive feedback. They also don't like criticism of themselves but are happy to direct it at their critics which is rather hypocritical.

I think the whole idea of 'influences' is odd but people also have to take responsibility for what they think of these people and how they are influenced by them.

You are mot seeing their real life and are only showing you the bits they want

I am sure some of them do sometimes have great ideas like any random person does but why real people compare themselves or get themselves upset over them i don't get

It’s not a valid way to make a living if you flout all the advertising rules. It’s not a valid way to make a living if you aren’t honest with people about how swipe up works. It isn’t honest and valid to post links to scams. There is no such thing as a rule abiding influencer. They will all do what it takes to make money, even pretend to be your friend and love you. It is preying on innocent lonely people that makes them money. They show 6 of the same thing and love them all, they are being paid to love everything. How would you know what brand of something is actually good?

I popped on the Hinch site and said,I felt concerned about the amount if chemical products she was using.I was swiftly removed.I reckon she knows what's she's doing

I used to follow her on instagram but soon stopped as it was all just so fake. Never been on tattle.

The cynical part of me though wonders if she deliberately goes on to these sites in order to get fodder for her book?

If being in the public eye is hurting your mental health, then it's gets to get out of the limelight, not crave more.

All of these so called influencers are trying to hoodwink people to make money. They could at least be honest about it.

Her fame isn't accidental, it was carefully managed. She had a number of social media accounts to see which took off, there was one for the dog, one for cleaning/ home stuff, and a couple of others, and it was the cleaning one which got the most interest. This was all planned.

Don't feel sorry for her - she is earning well into 6 figures a year for doing nothing, enough to bankroll her and her husband. She's earned enough that she could afford to close all her accounts tomorrow and live comfortably.

The whole influencer culture is ridiculous. Especially when it includes children. The ridiculous risks people take sharing their children's photos, the schools they attend, where the family live (most of them are too stupid to realise that they are advertising where they live by listing their personal addresses on their Companies House records - and even those who don't share so many photos of their house and area that everyone knows where they live regardless!)

I've never commented on an influencer on Tattle but I have said on MNs that HW & PS are crap presenters & I don't understand why anyone watches the banal drivel that is TM. I've said on threads about male celebrities that some are odd looking imo. Should that all be banned too?

@Newschapter

If that pile of shite tops the charts then I truly will lose my faith in humanity.

People don't need someone who can't pronounce "th" right to be influencing them! (Fanks)

I am still baffled that at 30 she has a memwah..... Is she done with life now then?

It will be number one when the weekly charts are released, it was outselling the no 2 book 34 to 1.

I don't care that much about the book, but I will call out people that bring into question my posts and she absolutely is number #1 on Amazon books and has been for the last few days. It's not fair to say I'm wrong and make judgements on my character.

Seems to be ok to slate everyone falling for MLM’s and portraying a fake income and lifestyle but god forbid anyone talks about the really successful MLM overlords like Mrs Hinch. Even actors and singers end up going into influencing nowadays it’s so lucrative. Kids come straight out of love island into influencing. Large companies spend a fraction of their advertising budget on giving away free things to be shown online. People are not jealous that they aren’t part of this fake fickle world. MOD and FOD are an example of how it can all go so wrong so fast too and how your real life can be ruined by your own greed.

Similarly it's not fair if you to say she's the number one bestselling book and then be annoyed when others think you means the bestselling list but you don't mean that at all.

I'm not jealous of someone whose 'fame' is built on a lie, and whose child is basically living in the Truman Show.

I feel sorry for all the children having their entire lives exposed without any choice in the matter.

@vkocy so you honestly think it's wrong to criticise anyone in the public eye?

Unfortunately I would say, they put their lives out their and reap the benefits (money) so people are also entitled to negative opinions. Yes it is not very nice. I don’t know if it was the entire reason for Caroline Flack’s suicide and nobody does, tbh. I have found the comments about Chrissy Teagan losing her baby particularly fucking cruel but they chose to put the photos out there on a very public level.

I didn’t to put their instead of there, ew

@Ponoka7 - However the above is victim blaming. This has become a valid way to make a living and you shouldn't have to close down your source of income because of the hatred of other people.

Its not victim blaming to say the way to get away from 'trolls' is to delete her social media. Thats how normal people cope with online bullying every day. If it bothers her that much, she could take a break even. But she doesnt

I honest worry for our mental health. The double whammy of feeling you are failing in comparison with a perfectly curated and planned Influencer lifestyle, and only being able to operate in a world where everyone agrees with you all the time even in areas such as business practice etc where there is no objective only way to do it (and where customer dissatisfaction is normal and something you should learn to respond to not just delete)

I do think there needs much more regulation around influencers (even the term makes my teeth itch) and YouTube videos.
Tv programs are held accountable to standards set out, they are heavily regulated as are the adverts. Regulators are playing catch up with online stuff.

Some threads on tattle are brilliant, others take it too far in my opinion. Why anyone in the public eye reads this stuff I will never know, leave it to your management.

There is absolutely no need for a "don't say anything negative about 'influencers" " law.

It is absolutely ridiculous to keep banging on about this.

Existing laws are adequate. If they are broken, that can be acted upon.

Wanting a "The Don't Be A Meanie Pants To Lickle Instagrammers Act 2020" is, frankly, pathetic.

They are not above criticism. Make them your God if you want but ffs stop trying to ram it down other people's throats.

But would everyone really give 'an arm and a leg to be easily making money online being an influencer'? 🤔 I enjoy having an actual (what I'd like to believe is productive) job in the 'real world'. I really couldn't be arsed to spend my time faffing around taking a million photos to show the world basically fuck all? Influencers haven't reinvented the wheel. They haven't actually invented anything at all? They haven't done something new, or learnt a new skill, or imported anything of any significance to the masses?. Here's a mop, here's a bucket and here's how I use it. Here's a product I've bought and I'll spend 10mins videoing how I decant it from one bottle into another bottle. Nobody is exactly finding the cure for cancer there are they... 😁

Just so I've got this straight. The OP wants laws to stop criticism of people? Or am I missing something?

Sigh, OP. Happy now? Maybe someone should start a Tattle thread to work out who you work for?

Full disclosure and all that.

If you want laws passing,then it should work both ways.

Some of the influencers are such liars,advertise they shop at a certain supermarket yet post themselves in another,use kindles yet regularly post pics of children using ipads. Using their children in ads,yet complaining when people say it’s not acceptable.I wonder if these children get a cut of the £500+ they earn.
They only post this stuff to make money, why do these businesses not research these people ?

Tattle can be uncomfortable to read at times,but it has made me open my eyes to how some influencers take the piss.

@vkocy

Ok

Without knowing the behind the scenes figures it’s still probably safe to say that books like this will sell really well in the first couple of weeks, outselling the other books.

Richard Osmonds book has been out a month longer than hers and is STILL number 2. Hers is newer, so sales will show she’s selling more right now.

I think that even people listening to the free audio sample counts towards this chart

There are multiple charts on Amazon
Most read
Most sold
Fiction
Non fiction (no 6 currently)
100 top best sellers (she’s not on this list I can see)
100 top best sellers of the year (not on this)

Then you also have the category. She’s no 1 in the new release section of her category of home and garden on Amazon too.

She’s doing really well. But to say it is no 1 best seller really does just mean it’s just been released and people are buying it now it doesn’t mean it will stay there for any length of time in that position or that it’s sold more than any of the other books combined