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Women are very powerful beings

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Sarahpaula · 01/10/2020 02:48

Hi. I am really into spirituality, and I read a lot of spiritual books. Many of these books say the same thing.

That the general reason why men are so abusive to women in this generation, is because women are in fact far, far more powerful than men, and men are afraid of how powerful women are.

This is why men spend a lot of time trying to make women feel inferior, and to forget their own power.

Men have implemented many tricks to make women forget their power by

  1. Starting religions which told women that they were inferior,
  2. Making science very dominant and male energy-based, making women forget their important spiritual powers and powers of intuition
  3. By disrespecting childbirth.
  4. by shaming menstruation, telling women it is dirty, when actually menstruation is a very important spiritual, physical and mental time for women.
  5. By degrading women in porn
  6. By keeping women out of politics.
  7. by shaming women if they do not have children. So that most women still focus primarily on child rearing.

Men have done all these things to make women forget who you really are: you are incredibly powerful beings.

Remember how powerful you are as a woman, and all of those systems of abuse will begin to change.
When one woman remembers how powerful she is, it will help all women to be freer in the future.

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lazylinguist · 03/10/2020 08:19

@lazylinguist menstrual blood gives life

What do you actually mean by this? Menstrual blood is an indication that you're not pregnant. It is a waste product.

Honestly, I've never heard such a load of nonsense in my life. Women through history sitting bleeding mystically together - talk about romanticising! I'm sure it felt very mystical for women throughout the ages to have to gather food, scratch a living from their surroundings or work in hardship and drudgery while dealing with the discomfort and messiness of menstruation. Hmm Or are you only talking about women who had the luxury to sit around and be mystical?

GoldfishParade · 03/10/2020 08:36

I reject the notion that my power as a woman lies in my ability to create and nurture children. I dont want kids.

StrawberrySquash · 03/10/2020 08:46

Making science very dominant and male energy-based, making women forget their important spiritual powers and powers of intuition

The scientific way is only one way of looking at the world and it's not always the right one for every situation. We are human beings and our emotional sides matter hugely to how we manage ourselves and our relationships. BUT that does not mean that science isn't a massively important tool for improving our lives. It should absolutely not be left to the men; everyone should have an understanding. For example it's enabled me to understand Covid 19 risks and make informed decisions about my own behaviour.

See also Caroline Criado Perez' book Invisible Women for what happens when women are excluded from science. It means crash test dummies don't represent our bodies so we are more likely to die in car crashes for example.
Science is not a male thing. It's a tool that humans can and should choose to use in specific ways.

GettingUntrapped · 03/10/2020 09:02

Biologically speaking, males are parasitic because unlike females, they can't reproduce their own DNA.

hatesalons · 03/10/2020 10:16

Some historic cultures believed menstrual blood could heal the sick and destroy enemies. To me, that seems just as daft and patronising as believing it to be unclean and bad.

It's just a biological function we share with many other mammals.

ShebaShimmyShake · 03/10/2020 10:27

A good way to see whether something brings power: are the people in power doing it?

derxa · 03/10/2020 10:48

When one woman remembers how powerful she is, it will help all women to be freer in the future. I've never felt weak at any point OP

CounsellorTroi · 03/10/2020 10:54

So OP wants to feed her tomatoes with her own menstrual blood... don’t want them on my burgers but still, she has a point.

Organic fertilisers are made from the byproducts of animal slaughter. Blood, bone, hooves, feathers. Using menstrual blood is not a big deal.

Gancanny · 03/10/2020 10:56

I reject the notion that my power as a woman lies in my ability to create and nurture children. I dont want kids.

I have kids and also reject the notion that my power as a woman lies in my ability to create and nurture children. My value is not measured by my uterus or what comes out of it.

BewilderedDoughnut · 03/10/2020 11:07

Women are powerful beyond measure but too often they settle for popping out kids and going down the SAHM route sacrificing everything they’ve worked for for a life of servitude. It’s such a waste of potential.

We could rule the world if it weren’t for that!

Shetoshe · 03/10/2020 11:50

Have you posted this before? Unless I'm having deja vu I'm certain I read this on here not so long ago.

Anyway no matter I suppose. Nice to be reminded about how powerful I am Grin

formerbabe · 03/10/2020 11:58

@GoldfishParade

I reject the notion that my power as a woman lies in my ability to create and nurture children. I dont want kids.
Well that's on an individual level.

On a biological level, our only real purpose is to procreate so the species continues.

Women's value in terms of procreation is higher than a man's. One man can impregnate unlimited numbers of women in theory...for the species to thrive, we could cope with far fewer men than we could with women.

Gancanny · 03/10/2020 12:13

Women are powerful beyond measure but too often they settle for popping out kids and going down the SAHM route sacrificing everything they’ve worked for for a life of servitude. It’s such a waste of potential.

Not if that's what she wants. True freedom of choice means that being a SAHM is equally as valid a choice as having a high flying career.

SeaDreaming · 03/10/2020 12:28

I've been overthinking this a bit Hmm
Coming from a perspective that power = potential energy (to use a physics analogy), yeah we're powerful as heck.

If we have full choice and control over our fertility, then yes we're powerful as heck.

If other people can dictate (verbally, legally and physically) whether or not we can get pregnant, choose to have sex or not, continue with pregnancy if we wish, or not... then we're not able to use our power - be that physical or mental. Physics analogies again- our potential energy gets transferred to and used by those oppressing us. This idea may have been prompted by excess caffeine and too little sleep, mind.

On another note, I've just come back from Whitby and was trying to find out a bit about the Women's Lib movement there in the 70s (apparently Sheila Rowbotham and other feminists set up house there for a bit).

The woman I spoke to in the lovely bookshop with a feminist undertow didn't have any info about it, but talked about the town having a history of female leadership, starting with St Hilda in 614 ce....
I'm going to do a bit more finding out when I go back next month.

Shinyletsbebadguys · 03/10/2020 13:00

I'm more irritated by the condescending tone of the post. If you really believe women are so powerful why are you talking down to the rest of us?

I'm freaking amazing and I know it. I'm also flawed and difficult. I am brilliant at lots of things and I very much know my own worth and my limitations. I don't need to be patronised and told to appreciate my power.

I have DC and it was an amazing thing and experience but if a woman doesnt have children she is also amazing. Not to mention I will continue to be amazing after menopause when I stop menstruating.

Here's the thing though my make dc are amazing in their way , my DP is amazing in his way.

The only reason you need to spout this crap Is an endemic belief that you need to justify why you are important. Real self worth knows you don't need to. I just am ...I don't need to list all the ways I am , nor seek validation or talk down to others.

All you have done for me OP is show that you are ultimately insecure, don't believe in your own intrinsic worth and need to patronize others to fill a void. Good luck with that.

BewilderedDoughnut · 03/10/2020 13:39

Women are powerful beyond measure but too often they settle for popping out kids and going down the SAHM route sacrificing everything they’ve worked for for a life of servitude. It’s such a waste of potential

Not if that's what she wants. True freedom of choice means that being a SAHM is equally as valid a choice as having a high flying career

Disagree because one contributes to the continued oppression of women and one elevates us.

CounsellorTroi · 03/10/2020 13:49

*If we have full choice and control over our fertility, then yes we're powerful as heck.

If other people can dictate (verbally, legally and physically) whether or not we can get pregnant, choose to have sex or not, continue with pregnancy if we wish, or not... then we're not able to use our power - be that physical or mental.*

Nature/biology dictates some women's choice and control over their fertility. Some women are infertile. Some women conceive despite using contraception.

SeaDreaming · 03/10/2020 14:11

Yep, I completely agree - good points and I should have included them. When I was thinking about autonomous control over our fertility just now, it was more just through a lens of oppression via social construct / conflict of power between groups and individuals IYSWIM.

Keepithidden · 03/10/2020 14:18

Disagree because one contributes to the continued oppression of women and one elevates us.

Is that not purely due to the value ascribed to being a SAHM though? A bit of a chicken/egg situation?

Sarahpaula · 03/10/2020 19:22

@lazylinguist menstrual blood is not a waste product.

Menstrual blood contains stem cells, they are doing a lot of scientific research in this area recently.

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eaglejulesk · 04/10/2020 02:17

Not if that's what she wants. True freedom of choice means that being a SAHM is equally as valid a choice as having a high flying career.

Well said - there's a lot of judgement on MN regarding SAHMs. I don't have children, but have never been even slightly interested in having a career, and if I did have children I would far rather have been at home with them than working, if it was financially viable. We don't all live for work!

eaglejulesk · 04/10/2020 02:18

Disagree because one contributes to the continued oppression of women and one elevates us.

Utter crap!

Mariola321 · 04/10/2020 02:18

lol most woman not even change a car tyre. 💁‍♀️

ilovesooty · 04/10/2020 03:45

@hunneebunnee

by shaming women if they do not have children.

I've only ever felt judged by women for not having children. No man has ever asked me if I had them (outside of dating) and no man has ever encouraged me to have them.

Same here.
Sarahpaula · 04/10/2020 03:55

@ilovesooty that is interesting. It has been men who have asked me why am I not having children

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