AIBU to want this parent jailed?

[MyWitzEnd]

They got a covid test result of positive on Saturday. In Monday they sent their year 7 child to school. Tuesday the child was tested, Weds positive result, Thurs the whole year group goes home for two weeks. As a teacher, and vulnerable, mixing with 700 kids a day, I want him jailed (in two weeks!!)

I can't see the poll any more but Boris if that's you, the appetite for more heavy handed policing, and prison (maybe with no trial) is there.

I agree the parent shouldn't of done that but if they are on 0 hour contract/universal credit I can complete understand why they would want to keep working and sending child to school. Obviously that doesn't make it right at all but I can understand it.

The other point here is that people being people, they will just not get tests.

The specifics of how this will all work in practice has not been addressed very much at all. I think it would be useful to move onto that if anyone has ideas.

Fined maybe, jailed is a bit strong. Or just being faced with a human being, a teacher, who may be vulnerable, and the fear and upset it must have caused - I do believe most people who break the isolation are just not equating their actions and if we can be more open it might really help.

I think public opinion still matters to most people. I do think we’ve got to be careful of ‘them’ and ‘us’ - don’t get me wrong I’m quite worried about the lack of compliance, but I do think we need to take people with us and communicate in a way that people can hear.

That would make me so angry. I’m currently at home isolating with DH and kids while we wait for my test results. Feel too ill to be working anyway tbh, never felt so ill in my life.

Colleague was in work the other week coughing and saying she knows it’s not COVID, it’s a chest infection. Bloody better have been.

Totally utterly selfish and despicable.

Yay fill up the Foster Care AND Prison Systems with temporary residents from poor and single parent families!! Oh shit no, those systems are already full to bursting.
We could hike taxes up even more to cover it OR maybe jail the people who reopened the schools in the first place fully aware people would be sending their kids in with COVID.

It's hardly a surprise that a kid got sent to school in a country where we are legally obliged to do so and everybodys skinted

@NiceGerbil

I can't see the poll any more but Boris if that's you, the appetite for more heavy handed policing, and prison (maybe with no trial) is there.

The money for all this, on the other hand...

Internment???

Holy shit some of you are awful human beings.That will ONLY apply to the most vulnerable, and WILL be predominantly single Mums, we know the well off do not go to prison.

Since its now super clear people like this aren't listening lets round them up, those with positive results and lut them in a building that is guarded and then they can leave when they are negative.

Fining people won't work either time for something harsher.

Figures vary but if between 25% and 80% of those with it are asymptomatic and we lock up only those who were tested, it won't make any difference to work days lost through quarantining groups of children.

To be honest if someone willingly did something else that cost people weeks wages then I think there would be severe punishments - sending your child to school with a positive test should be heavily fined for sure.

'Since its now super clear people like this aren't listening lets round them up, those with positive results and lut them in a building that is guarded and then they can leave when they are negative'

I assume this is sarcastic. (I bloody hope so!)

I am pretty sure the person who sent their child to school in this scenario didn't do so with the intention of wanting to accidentally kill people.

But they did it knowing it COULD kill people....... they were obviously prepared to take that gamble with other people's lives.

I agree selfish but the likelihood is the child won't infect many, if any. Children don't pass it on easily hence schools are low risk. Not great to have to isolate. If the parent didn't intend to keep child off school despite a positive test, why on earth did they tell people?

I wonder if the people telling op to calm down would still be saying that if a loved one of theirs got infected by the child that parent put to school? Would you still be fine with it if your kid caught it, ended up in hospital on a ventilator, and sadly didn't make it?

Easy to say calm down when it doesn't affect you, but how do you know it doesn't? That parent could be a friend of yours and your kid hangs out with theirs.

@MrsArchchancellorRidcully

I agree selfish but the likelihood is the child won't infect many, if any. Children don't pass it on easily hence schools are low risk. Not great to have to isolate. If the parent didn't intend to keep child off school despite a positive test, why on earth did they tell people?

Is this really true though? Do some people really believe school is low risk?

How do you know OP?

KeepingPlan yes I would still disagree with op.

To change the law in this way would give really sweeping powers, to get all the people through court and into prison would overwhelm the courts and prison system, I'm not sure if people are talking no trial (police state) or imprisoned on remand potentially for a very long time due to the massive amount of people waiting with large amounts of children placed in care as a result for maybe months or years. Those people and therefore children losing jobs and homes. And the exposure of all the people looking after remand prisoners being exposed to the virus, potentially passing it onto the people they live with who may be vulnerable.

It's a no from me.

Keeping Plan can you expand on why you think imprisonment is a good idea in this situation. I'm interested to understand your perspective a bit more.

"As a teacher"

My arse.

Randomer- agree, good question.

I mentioned earlier OP not been back.

Feels like a barometer gauge to me. MN is used for that.

I can't see the voting results any more, can you? Earlier 62% were in favour of op.

There is no excuse for this behaviour but people are worried about their finances so I doubt they are alone in doing this.

Wrong - maybe but jailed, no. The parent may well have felt too ill to look after a child and hoped said child hadn't caught it.

At least if all the kids and staff are now sent home from school, they can enjoy what is left of the good weather and chill out for a fortnight.

The jails would fill up pretty quickly!

I'd suggest threatening those who flout or bend the rules and put others at risk are forced to home school til there's a vaccine 😉

@tryingmybest29

Very wrong but jailed? No!

Slightly different scenario but a mum posted on fb she needed a post for her son who had a cough (which truthfully was more likely from a cold he had buy school requested the test). As we know if one had symptoms and seeking a test the whole family isolates until negative result.. or positive and isolate for 2 weeks.

Anyway, after posting that she sent her other child into school. I have no doubt it probably is a cold. We went through the same thing. DS had a cold then a hacking cough as he always does and we had to test before he went back.

But sending In the other child whilst the other waits for a test? What if it was positive? How many people had the other child infected if they were incubating it.

The guidelines are that other children can go to school while waiting for a test result if no symptoms.