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Baby on Board sign?

247 replies

Mamawell · 17/09/2020 12:04

What is wrong with a baby on board sign?

I've seen this come a lot on another thread, that it annoys people.

Why?

OP posts:
AllPlayedOut · 17/09/2020 14:14

I don't think anyone thinks that the emergency services can't do their job without the signs.

Judging by this thread and others I've read on the subject they seem to think exactly that.

Joeblack066 · 17/09/2020 14:15

[quote sarge89]@glastogal He referenced a horrendous crash where the seat was ejected from the car 😩 I figured having a sign wouldn't do any harm. But clearly it's opened me up to judgement on my driving...!?[/quote]
Absolutely. My god daughter was indeed catapulted from the car, and of her grandparents has been killed the attending emergency services may not have know to look for her.
Incidentally, my paramedic son does see people catapulted from vehicles so it’s not just a one off!

TheKeatingFive · 17/09/2020 14:15

Many do yes.

Being you sounds tough.

AmazingBouncingFerret · 17/09/2020 14:15

The emergency services are trained to look for car seats and infants whether there’s a sticker or not. There’s no actual need of them. I never had one but they don’t make me angry, they’re just not for me.

TheLastStarfighter · 17/09/2020 14:16

I am amazed at how many people thought that they were to alert emergency services Confused.

But I am even more amazed how how many people apparently have a pathological hatred of them Shock.

They make me smile. I always assume that it is new parents just being really excited. A bit like the vinyl stickers you can put in your back window proclaiming your allegiance to the local zoo. A bit of fun for the person who is decorating their car.

awsomer · 17/09/2020 14:17

@Badger2033 read the thread and you’ll see that’s not true.

Paramedics are often coming on to threads like these and confirming that the BOB signs are not what they look for and that they do not change the way they are taught to search a vehicle and the surrounding area.

Plus, the person who invented them said himself that they were to encourage safer driving - not for emergency services.

AllPlayedOut · 17/09/2020 14:17

Being you sounds tough.

You seem terribly bothered that BOB stickers annoy me. Tell me about it. Did it all start when you were a child?

StarchyStanley · 17/09/2020 14:17

@AllPlayedOut

I don't think anyone thinks that the emergency services can't do their job without the signs.

Judging by this thread and others I've read on the subject they seem to think exactly that.

Well, that's your interpretation. I don't think I've seen anyone say anything like this at all.

Certainly, my understanding, is that it can make it easier in some, probably a very small number of, cases, where there is a crash, for emergency services to identify who is / was in the car. A bit like having a list when you do a fire drill at work or school. No slur against the emergency services intended.

QuestionableMouse · 17/09/2020 14:17

@StarchyStanley in the event of a crash so severe you're needing to be cut out, there's likely to be at least one firefighters/paramedic/police officer in the car with you to stabilise you/keep you safe. No chance they'd miss a car seat and attendant child.

I was unfortunately stuck in the first row behind an absolutely terrible crash where the driver and passengers had to be cut out. The emergency services checked the car very thoroughly, even checking in the boot.

None if the windows survived the crash though so a stick on sign would have been useless.

AllPlayedOut · 17/09/2020 14:18

Incidentally, my paramedic son does see people catapulted from vehicles so it’s not just a one off!

They are supposed to do a 360 check of the scene whether or not there is a BOB sticker.

ItsGoingTibiaK · 17/09/2020 14:21

I always liked Ben Elton's version...

Baby on Board sign?
StarchyStanley · 17/09/2020 14:22

@QuestionableMouse, I'm sure that's true! But, in a small number of cases, it may be, that the sign makes a difference. It's been gone through here a lot, so I won't take us back down that road again.

Even if it only makes a difference in one crash a year, or if it never makes a difference full stop, the anger and aggression on this thread are hugely disproportionate. At worst it is something a parent puts in because they're smug / proud of their family or something they WRONGLY think is a safety measure. At best it could make a difference. It is frankly insane that this gets people so angry. How on earth does if effect anyone else? Oh god, I'm forced to LOOK AT A SIGN about BABIES Shock. The horror!

awsomer · 17/09/2020 14:25

Certainly, my understanding, is that it can make it easier in some, probably a very small number of, cases, where there is a crash, for emergency services to identify who is / was in the car. A bit like having a list when you do a fire drill at work or school.

  1. it’s not your ‘understanding’, it’s your ‘interpretation’ and it makes complete sense to think like that because you have no first hand experience. But you’re wrong.

  2. Paramedics do a full 350 search regardless. The BOB sign is not comparable to a list at all because people have them in their cars whether their child is there or not. And people have children in cars without the signs. Paramedics don’t use a car sticker as an attendance list.

  3. I agree with you that there’s no need for the hatred of them and if it makes people feel better to have them then they should just crack on.

TheLastStarfighter · 17/09/2020 14:26

At worst it is something a parent puts in because they're smug / proud of their family or something they WRONGLY think is a safety measure. At best it could make a difference. It is frankly insane that this gets people so angry. How on earth does if effect anyone else? Oh god, I'm forced to LOOK AT A SIGN about BABIES shock. The horror!

Yes! This ^

Rigamorph · 17/09/2020 14:27

Wow. So much hatred for something that does no harm to anybody whatsoever. (How has your life been personally altered by a sticker in somebody else's car window, I wonder? Has it ever been brought up in a therapy session? In court?)

A symptom of today's need to feel outrage at anything, whether it is important or not.

Don't let these things increase your blood pressure, folks. There are more important things to worry about.

bluebluezoo · 17/09/2020 14:27

And fwiw, I've never heard of anyone in RL having an issue. It's one of those MN 'things'

You do realise that this site isn’t AI and there are real people behind the usernames?

So everyone here IRL has this issue. Maybe it just hasn’t come up in conversation with everyone you meet?

BertieBotts · 17/09/2020 14:28

If you want your car seats to be noticeable, buy them in bright red - most manufacturers do this colour.

kittenpeak · 17/09/2020 14:29

@Badger2033

A baby on board sign is to alert emergency services that there is, or was, or should he a young child in the vehicle - in the event of an accident emergency services know to look for that baby. I don’t know how to say this nicely - - -sometimes young children become displaced during accidents.
No that is not the reason. You are being dangerously naive. There is a myth that paramedics don't know how to check cars, but I promise it's a myth.

If you had to put a sign to say BOB, they wouldn't issue stickers, because babies are not always on board. Unless you peel yours off / on each time?

StarchyStanley · 17/09/2020 14:33

1) it’s not your ‘understanding’, it’s your ‘interpretation’ and it makes complete sense to think like that because you have no first hand experience. But you’re wrong.

Right, but a paramedic was the one who said to me that they can be helpful...so, no, not my interpretation. Perhaps the paramedic I spoke to was mistaken, but I didn't pull this out of my arse Hmm.

2) Paramedics do a full 350 search regardless. The BOB sign is not comparable to a list at all because people have them in their cars whether their child is there or not. And people have children in cars without the signs. Paramedics don’t use a car sticker as an attendance list.

But, parents might take them down, which would be the best thing, if they choose to put one up at all. And even for those who don't, there may be a good chance their dc is with them in the car if and when they have an accident.

I didn't say it was exactly the same as an attendance list, but just something that people may use in the same way, to indicate there is a baby in the car.

Even though paramedics do a full check of the car, if they see the sign first, it might help them be better prepared, in a small number of cases.

3) I agree with you that there’s no need for the hatred of them and if it makes people feel better to have them then they should just crack on.

Good good! I'm sure people will crack on anyway and your blood pressure will thank you if you don't get yourself worked up into a rage every time you see one!

awsomer · 17/09/2020 14:36

but I didn't pull this out of my arse hmm.
No need to be defensive. It makes perfect sense if you had pulled it out of your arse - plenty of people jump to exactly the same conclusion.

StarchyStanley · 17/09/2020 14:39

@awsomer

but I didn't pull this out of my arse hmm. No need to be defensive. It makes perfect sense if you had pulled it out of your arse - plenty of people jump to exactly the same conclusion.
Was I defensive? Quizzical was what I was going for, but perhaps it didn't translate that well into text?
changerr · 17/09/2020 14:39

ItsGoingTibiaK

Yes, the Ben Elton sign says it all!

VenusClapTrap · 17/09/2020 14:40

The reason they give people the rage is because the implication is ‘my PFB is more important than you and yours’.

HTH.

ItsGoingTibiaK · 17/09/2020 14:41

@Highfield21 - If you were looking for a site where people would sycophantically agree with your incorrect posts even they can be quickly an easily debunked within seconds by anyone with access to Google, then you're probably in the wrong place, hun.

changerr · 17/09/2020 14:41

Sorry to say this again, but I am amazed that this thread even exists. I really thought the trend had died out ages ago and everyone knew they were utterly naff.

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