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To have a messy house?

106 replies

LizzyLovesTea · 11/09/2020 13:56

I've been a single mum for a few years, and got together with a new partner a year ago. He ended up moving in during lockdown - not very planned, but as a better alternative than not seeing each other.

My work got busier during lockdown but I had no childcare - and it's not going to get better for the next couple of weeks, until our new routine kicks off properly. My partner makes fantastic dinners and usually spends (by his estimate) about an hour in the kitchen each evening, tidying and cooking and washing up. He gets so dejected that the kitchen gets messy again each evening and the work needs to done over and over again. Obviously, this didn't happen in quite the same way when he lived alone and went to work and left an empty tidy house behind him!

I really do sympathise with him. I hate that houses get messy and housework is a never-ending hamster wheel.

But on days when I'm working through the day, taking breaks to meet my daughter's needs and then working right into the evening I just don't have the time to catch up on everything. I used to do housework in the evenings after my little girl was in bed, but now I usually spend that time with my partner which is obviously a good thing, I guess? And in any case, it would feel a bit odd working a 10-12 hour day then tidying the house...
I do housework sometimes - some days are 5 hours trying to get on top of the mess, other times it's the bare minimum because I'm snowed under with work. I also have a million other housework tasks beyond the kitchen that he doesn't seem to see and wouldn't consider helping with. Laundry, gardening, mowing the lawn, all the toys that my little mess monster strews everywhere, getting stains out of the wretched laundry which seems to take about an hour each time I do it... Shopping and putting it away... Tidying and decluttering a really overwhelming house (and when it's done my daughter can undo it in a couple of minutes the first time I turn my back, and there's no time to stop her because while she's busy emptying a box I can work...).

I think I'd need to work part-time to keep the house to the standard my partner expects. I'd like to work a bit part-time, but if he's living in the house I'd like it to be equal. I suspect that I need to tell him something like: 'When I'm not snowed under, I'll commit to doing more housework but you will need to do more too... And it might take longer than 1 hour each day for each of us if we want it tidy all the time... And on days when work is intense, it will take priority because it's an essential and the mess can wait.'

So, Mumsnetters, am I being unreasonable to expect him to put up with a messy house, when my life gets intensely busy? Or to share in the work it takes to keep it tidy?

OP posts:
NaNaNaNaNaNaBaNaNa · 11/09/2020 19:05

I'm fine with mess in the house. We've got 2 kids and it's inevitable. But I get very stressed about the kitchen being untidy. I just can't prepare food if it's messy and I am getting very disheartened with my husband home all the time that he just seems incapable of keeping it clean.

It's not his fault, it's me who cares. All I'm trying to say is that just because he's "dejected", it doesn't mean he's judging you or that there's a big problem you need to fix, it's just how he feels. You're doing your best and I'm sure he knows that.

winetime89 · 11/09/2020 19:09

it what suits you both, try and meet in the middle. I'm constantly tidying and the kids and partner are constantly making a mess. My partner doesn't even clear his plate. it fucks be right off but I put up with it. I can't relax in a messy house, I couldn't just sit and chill if there was a mess everywhere. Fine with toys being out but dirt or bits on the carpet I would have to clean it.

crazychemist · 11/09/2020 20:56

Presumably the mess isn’t usually this bad? I assume that the reason that it’s getting into a tip (I’m assuming it’s a tip because I can’t imagine having to do 5 hours very often at all!) is because your DD is at home all day and you can’t give her attention because of your work? How old is she? I suspect that if you had your childcare sorted you wouldn’t be having this issue because there would just be much less mess being made each day - what steps can you take towards that? If this is just a short term problem, I’d expect him to grit his teeth and bear it - sometimes things go wrong!

How much I’d expect him to muck in with housework depends on what boundaries you established when he moved in. Does he pay rent? Contribute to joint costs? Hard to know if it’s reasonable for him to do little housework without knowing what the expectations were when he moved in.

WhereYouLeftIt · 12/09/2020 00:14

"He gets so dejected that the kitchen gets messy again each evening and the work needs to done over and over again."
Well boo fucking hoo. 'Over and over again' is pretty much the definition of housework. As you say, "housework is a never-ending hamster wheel."

"I also have a million other housework tasks beyond the kitchen that he doesn't seem to see and wouldn't consider helping with."
And there's the kicker. He'll do the kitchen because he likes to cook, but everything else is invisible. What a surprise!

"I think I'd need to work part-time to keep the house to the standard my partner expects."
Don't you dare! If he wants a particular standard he can do the drudgework to create it.

We're not in lockdown now. Nothing stopping him from moving back to his place and coming round to see you. But there is a lot wrong in you reducing your income to skivvy to meet his domestic standards. Particularly since he doesn't skivvy for himself.

Time for him to move out.

ThumbWitchesAbroad · 12/09/2020 10:05

Yeah, pretty much this really.
Time for him to go back home if he can't work out that he needs to help out more and whinge less.

Zoflorabore · 12/09/2020 10:35

The amount of people I’ve met over the years who have told me their house is “messy” and has in fact been filthy dirty is shocking.

I’m not saying that op has a filthy house as I obviously do not know and my judgement is probably clouded by me having severe OCD ( I am diagnosed and medicated for it ) and it centres around cleaning and order, I’m not a germophobe at all.

Some people do not know how to differentiate between messy and dirty and of course it’s possible to be both or either but how can one clean a messy home in the first place?

I’ve had no choice but to let things slide a bit over lockdown as my fibromyalgia was so bad that I physically couldn’t clean some days and I am under no illusion that my house was both messy and dirty. It’s very hard to regain control and get on top of it but I’ve found that the rule “one thing at a time” works for me.

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