To ask if there's something I'm missing about the allegedly "controversial" Diversity performance

[GlummyMcGlummerson]

Diversity performed on Britain's Got Talent, a performance which incorporated a message about BLM. Their performance, as usual, was incredible and sent out some great messages. The video is below.

It's had 10,000 complaints. Why?! am I missing something? Did someone's nipple pop out or something? What is the basis of people's complaints? The only reason I can think is that some people (probably because they're part of the problem) don't like it when others point out that there's racism in the world? Boo hoo to them

I still wouldn't call it a "murder re enactment" - it alludes to George Flloyd. Ashley Banjo on the ground with a man's knee on his shoulder for a few seconds? You get more violence than that on CBeebies

Well t was though wasn't it Glummy.

Why pretend you didn't understand why people were complaining? You could just have owned that you disagreed with their view instead of pretending this is about dialogue. You don't need to pretend you're opening up dialogue with people you despise.

I wasn't "pretending" I wanted to know why it was so offensive (without our and our calling people racists). Genuinely can't see the issue - there was no swearing, violence or nudity. To have so little wrong with it but 10,000 complaints - I don't think it's a ridiculous question to ask why.

I still wouldn't call it a "murder re enactment" - it alludes to George Flloyd. Ashley Banjo on the ground with a man's knee on his shoulder for a few seconds?

Well neither would I. But you asked if you were missing something and I would bet my house on that being it. I answered the post re resilience because people are not, people don't understand, people complained.

Absolute bs is it wrong place. BGT is full of politiscised acts. What about the children singing about the environment? Did they get 10000 complaints?

Its all very well to say its about usa britain isnt racist but then 10000 people complain about a BLM dance, they are diversity its in the name.

This is the biggest platform diversity will get, whay better platform could they have picked? Butlins? That just screams out of sight out of mind to me. Dance often depicts traumatic scenarios

I thought it was great. #TeamDiversity

@june2007

Well t was though wasn't it Glummy.

No it wasn't a re-enactment. A re-enactment would've been Ashley Banjo acting that he couldn't breathe for 14 minutes while the white "cop" increasingly put pressure on him ignoring his pleas to let him live. The bit in a routine was a non-client very much watered down reference to it. If you're afraid of your kids watching that then you're in for a world of problems

I actually dont understand why people complained, what are they actually writing in their complaints? What is the complaint about?

What do they hope to gain from complaining about a BLM dance other than appearing like a racist?

I think it was incredibly powerful and succinct. If people have a problem with it, maybe they need to step back and think about their own thoughts

*non-violent not non-client

@DishRanAwayWithTheSpoon plenty of posters here who seem to think a political issue ( it that racism is a political issue!!) shouldn't be raised on that platform - so I imagine some bullshit reason like that

I thought it was absolutely brilliant.

Its hardly a murder reenactment. It doesnt look like a murder, you only know its a murder because you know about George Floyd. A small child who deosnt know what happened is not going to be scared, it looks like hes being arrested. Plus BGT is on at 8pm, so not little children time. Children will see much more traumatic things on the news

If you're upset about white people being depicted as racist, What are you doing to educate your white peers to do things better
I think the 10000 complaints could be demonstrating that I'm not the only white person who feels got at. Despite trying determinedly not to be racist, being horrified at US shootings, for agreeing that there is racism against black people, for having no relatives remotely connected with slavery, for being glad things st last are slowly changing -- yet it seems i require regular educating with BLM slogans, reminders of George Fliyds death and sneering condescension because I'm not as woke as the wokest as demonstrated here. I'll leave educating others to you but I think much of the 'educating' could be backfiring.

@DishRanAwayWithTheSpoon

Its hardly a murder reenactment. It doesnt look like a murder, you only know its a murder because you know about George Floyd. A small child who deosnt know what happened is not going to be scared, it looks like hes being arrested. Plus BGT is on at 8pm, so not little children time. Children will see much more traumatic things on the news

Lol you think all toddlers are in bed at 8pm?

I wonder how many people who complained actually watched the programme.

I think the 10000 complaints could be demonstrating that I'm not the only white person who feels got at

Please don't conflate quantity with quality. It just means that 10,000 people are idiots and/or racist

Despite trying determinedly not to be racist, being horrified at US shootings, for agreeing that there is racism against black people, for having no relatives remotely connected with slavery, for being glad things st last are slowly changing -- yet it seems i require regular educating with BLM slogans, reminders of George Fliyds death and sneering condescension because I'm not as woke as the wokest as demonstrated here.

So you're happy to be in the "I'm not actively racist" camp but object to being in the "I'm happy to learn more about how racism affects people who aren't like me" camp?
Lovely
Don't have the foggiest clue BTW how having "no ancestors connected to slavery" (that's some in depth research you just have done to draw that conclusion) makes you a non-racist

Well, I just watched it. I don't particularly care for Diversity, so hadn't bothered up until now.

It was not what I expected. It was hopeful, it was a father telling his son about the strange times we lived through and the things that brought us together. From clapping for the NHS to the international outrage about the killing of a black man and how we came out the other side of it.

Seems to me it is being misrepresented by those with their own agendas and I wonder how many of the thousands of complainers actually watched the performance?

I don't think it's a ridiculous question to ask why
So you think the people who complained are on MN? I doubt that.
You asked people who didn't complain to posit suggestions for why other people might have complained. Then you argued against those suggestions.
Why not start a thread asking if anyone here complained? It wouldn't be as goady but it would be more productive.

I think it’s time we stopped brushing things under the carpet. Hate actions happen all around us, all the time. I would also encourage and support showcasing the staggering scale of misogyny and violence against women- constant agressions against people of colour, women, refugees, and all who are so frequently and casually ‘othered’ Happens all the time - it needs to be put up big in people’s faces because being nice and tasteful has got us nowhere.

@MeridaTheBold

I don't think it's a ridiculous question to ask why So you think the people who complained are on MN? I doubt that. You asked people who didn't complain to posit suggestions for why other people might have complained. Then you argued against those suggestions. Why not start a thread asking if anyone here complained? It wouldn't be as goady but it would be more productive.

Oh please, not a soul would admit to that.

I'm allowed to argue against their points. My contribution doesn't begin and end in the OP. That's the point of these threads - to start a discussion, not just one question and no further opinions.

What is it with the thread police today?!

@UnRavellingFast

I think it’s time we stopped brushing things under the carpet. Hate actions happen all around us, all the time. I would also encourage and support showcasing the staggering scale of misogyny and violence against women- constant agressions against people of colour, women, refugees, and all who are so frequently and casually ‘othered’ Happens all the time - it needs to be put up big in people’s faces because being nice and tasteful has got us nowhere.

Precisely.

This is a MASSIVELY tenuous link, but just how with it...when you hear about the extreme action the suffragettes took to win votes for women - violence, bricking Windows, riots etc - so many people say "maybe if they'd been peaceful about it they'd have got what they wanted". Few people realise that the suffragettes laboured peacefully for 50 years before they turned to extreme methods.

Sometimes, making people uncomfortable is the only card left to play. If something like a performance by a predominately black group about racism rocks your little boat then be glad of the privilege you carry of not having to be an ACTUAL victim of racism.

There have been several programmes on tv/ radio about how a persons race affects their life. Eye opening for sure. I just don't want to be included in the white racist trope with US police.
Which is trotted out see Pps.

So it's not our problem to challenge racism here in the U.K. because America has it so much worse?

I'm a feminist and I don't just fight for women's rights in the U.K., I fight for them all over the world. That's how it works - same with LGBT people fighting for their rights, why keep it local?