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New owners after competition, wanting us to pay Out more

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Pringlemonster · 10/09/2020 07:56

Completed yesterday, have the money
Relatives house ,I’m trying to keep on top of situation ,but I’ve a difficult home life ,and I don’t live anywhere near the sold house.
They got us down £20000 of the asking price,
Elderly relative in rest home ,needs money to pay for care .
Cleared out relatives house as best could ,left some rubble in garage, due to Covid no one would remove .not a huge amount.
They are asking us to pay for a skip to remove rubble
Dh says I’m giving relatives house away as it is and he reall y disagrees if I pay for a skip for them.
It’s a huge plot of land ,and I too feel annoyed they pushed the price down.
AIBU to not pay for a skip

OP posts:
EveryDayIsADuvetDay · 10/09/2020 16:43

You're lucky they aren't invoicing you for their time, or insisting you/relative pay for a firm to clear it rather than just a skip. YABU

Money for the skip should come from the share of the house, not you personally. What your relative is doing with the proceeds of the sale are irrelevant, as is the fact that you (or your relative) accepted a price below the original asking price.

EveryDayIsADuvetDay · 10/09/2020 16:43

*sale not share

AyeCorona1 · 10/09/2020 16:55

@Hoppinggreen

You have completed, it’s now their house and their garden. You don’t have to hire a skip for them, presumably they saw the rubble when they viewed the house
Your buyers paid for vacant possession - you will have signed to say what was included in the sale (eg fitted wardrobes, curtain poles, white goods etc) and that everything else would have been removed.

YABVU, pay for the skip.

Hoppinggreen · 10/09/2020 17:03

I have repeatedly said I am not a lawyer and they should take legal advice on this
OP also says she is getting a skip, read the thread

TeaStory · 10/09/2020 17:07

I have repeatedly said I am not a lawyer

Then don’t give such confidently incorrect advice on legal issues!

Pringlemonster · 11/09/2020 17:12

Money has been sent to pay for the skip
We sent a generous amount over
In my defence it completed very quickly ,at buyers request, and I didn’t get chance to get back up.
Someone put that I resent the buyers
No ,I resent the situation,
When your only just coping with life, then it throws a situation You didn’t expect at you ,it does cause resentment.
But that does not give me the right to make someone’s else’s life more difficult.
Anyway ..all sorted .

OP posts:
Middle123 · 11/09/2020 18:00

We sold our previous home back in October last year & part of the contract states the house has to be emptied. We did have a few items of furniture that we knew we didn’t want in our new house, so we offered those to the buyers but again that was all agreed as part of the contract. On the other side of the coin the house we bought was left with lots of things in the garage, which we were really p*ssed off about because we had quite a lot of boxes that needed to be put in the garage. In the end we had the boxes hanging around our hallway & living room for an extra day while the previous owners came & emptied the garage. Their excuse at the time was they ran out of time & wanted to be in their new house before it got dark!

So long story short I have voted that yabu because I have experienced it & it’s not pleasant.

Cloudspotter · 11/09/2020 18:02

I'd pay it.

The sale price reduction, much as it might have annoyed you, was a legitimate negotiation.

Leaving rubbish in the garage is a really skanky thing to do, and not a legit part of the legal transaction.

They are not being unreasonable expecting you to remove it.

Two wrongs wouldn't make a right anyway, but you haven't even been wronged, except in your own mind resending the reduction.

If you genuinely felt that strongly, and thought the house could fetch £20k more, it was your prerogative to put it back on the market to get that.

The house is only worth what someone is prepared to pay.

Cloudspotter · 11/09/2020 18:06

Ps I've just seen your update.

I'm sorry all this is happening for you. I've had school refusals and it's so emotionally draining.

Flowers

You've done the right thing, so well done. At least that's one thing out of the way, it's not going to linger or come back to bite you.

It sounds like it's one extra hassle you could have done without.

Flowers
niugboo · 11/09/2020 18:15

Unless you’ve listed all the stuff you’ve left as included in sale they can claim.

No legal obligation to clean property but you are expected to clear it out unless you agreed as part of the conditions of sale.

Pay for the skip.

cherish123 · 11/09/2020 18:20

Of course you (or your relative) should pay for the skip! It's not the buyers mess.

cherish123 · 11/09/2020 18:23

If it's not going to fill the skip, could you pick it up and take it to the rubbish dump.

FelicisNox · 11/09/2020 18:25

YABU.

It's not their mess to clear and I would be furious to move to a new home and find that in the garage.... Covid or not that is your responsibility to clear.

Also: the £20,000 drop was a choice, you didn't have to drop it, presumably the house is worth quite a bit to drop that amount so it's all relative.

Thurmanmurman · 11/09/2020 18:26

Really cheeky of you to leave rubble in the garage. Even if you pay for the skip, which you most definitely should, they are going to have to break their back shifting it into a skip. I'd be so pissed off.

Luddite26 · 11/09/2020 18:56

Anyway the relative who owned the house pays for the skip - that's 2 nights less of care they will be paying out of the proceeds.

Glad you got it sorted and can concentrate on yourself now.

ktp100 · 11/09/2020 18:57

Sorry but in my opinion everyone should leave houses totally cleared and spotless.

And with light bulbs!!

It's not reasonable to leave things for them to clear up. It's not their fault you lived so far away.

A skip isn't ridiculously expensive. If it's really not much maybe you could order one of those rubble bags that have collection in with the cost of the bag?

This is why we have to sign the bloody long-winded forms now about how we leave the house. Just pay it. It's less hassle than being persued for it through small claims!

MyWitzEnd · 11/09/2020 19:12

Yep its your responsibility

Passenger42 · 11/09/2020 19:28

Put a tip run needed on Facebook and get the rubble moved, I doubt you need a skip hire unless it’s a mega amount. I ripped out my bathroom and got it collected, tiles old plaster etc for under £50, but yes get it shifted.

SurroundedByIdiotsEverywhere · 11/09/2020 19:32

YABU

You agreed the selling price, no one forced you to accept 20k less... You are upset at yourself!

Also you are meant to clear the house out fully unless there is a written agreement as to what will be left.

If a skip is too dear then get a man with a van quote... But do it at your own pace if you feel like they are being unreasonable (which they are not btw)!

MollyMinniesMum · 11/09/2020 19:35

Vacant on completion means just that

OpEd · 11/09/2020 19:35

We've managed to get skips and go to the top locally and clear out a deceased relatives house several hours away from home. YABU and legally, it's your responsibility to clear unless they have forgotten they bought a rubble filled garage.

LastDaysOfSummer · 11/09/2020 19:43

You should pay - the house and grounds should have been left clear

LunaLula83 · 11/09/2020 19:47

Don't be a dick. Clear out your rubbish

clarehhh · 11/09/2020 19:59

Your problem not theirs they could sue you

SoupDragon · 11/09/2020 20:44

Read the thread! She paid for the skip!!

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