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New owners after competition, wanting us to pay Out more

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Pringlemonster · 10/09/2020 07:56

Completed yesterday, have the money
Relatives house ,I’m trying to keep on top of situation ,but I’ve a difficult home life ,and I don’t live anywhere near the sold house.
They got us down £20000 of the asking price,
Elderly relative in rest home ,needs money to pay for care .
Cleared out relatives house as best could ,left some rubble in garage, due to Covid no one would remove .not a huge amount.
They are asking us to pay for a skip to remove rubble
Dh says I’m giving relatives house away as it is and he reall y disagrees if I pay for a skip for them.
It’s a huge plot of land ,and I too feel annoyed they pushed the price down.
AIBU to not pay for a skip

OP posts:
EarlGreyT · 10/09/2020 08:38

My question wasn’t about me paying for it
I just felt theY were cheeky to ask ,it’s barely going to fill a fraction of a skip.

But you were cheeky (And wrong) to leave it. The fact that it’s “barely going to fill a fraction of a skip” is irrelevant.

Shoxfordian · 10/09/2020 08:41

They're not cheeky to ask
It's your obligation to give vacant possession
Yabu

BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 10/09/2020 08:44

Love that You think they were the cheeky ones.

myusernamewastakenbyme · 10/09/2020 08:45

Omg are people really this deluded....would you like to move into a house Op and find the previous owners crap left behind for you to sort out....
Just bloody organise a skip and deal with it.

Tappering · 10/09/2020 08:47

My question wasn’t about me paying for it
I just felt theY were cheeky to ask ,it’s barely going to fill a fraction of a skip
Feeling frustrated

I mean this nicely, but if the rubble is so inconsequential that it would hardly fill a fraction of a skip, then why didn't you clear it yourselves by taking it to the tip?

They aren't cheeky to ask you to clear something that you left behind without their agreement. It's not your house anymore. If anyone is being cheeky, it's you and your H by leaving a load of rubble there, not bothering to tell them and expecting them to suck it up.

EL8888 · 10/09/2020 08:48

@BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz exactly

MaggieFS · 10/09/2020 08:49

@Pringlemonster

My question wasn’t about me paying for it , I just felt theY were cheeky to ask ,it’s barely going to fill a fraction of a skip . Feeling frustrated

But that was the question you asked? I don't think they were unreasonable to ask. If anything, quite decent as presumably they'll have to do the heavy lifting to move everything into the skip.

That said, I don't think it will matter if you sort out a hippo bag or man and van (properly licensed) instead - they'll just want it all gone ASAP.

RB68 · 10/09/2020 08:49

go for a mini skip or hippo bag then if large skip too big

I would offer to pay part of the larger skip as it sounds like they are pulling a fast one on contents.

Alternatively you should now be able t book a man and van to dispose properly - ask them if that is suitable and what dates they have so they can supervise he only removes rubble

PrayingandHoping · 10/09/2020 08:50

They aren't cheeky to ask. You were cheeky to leave it

Original poster
Pringlemonster · 10/09/2020 08:51

I can’t get up to sort it out
I’m in the middle of difficulty with school refusing/ dc with SN 2 of them ,I can’t just go up
I’d seen this relative 3 times in 20 years ,hoarding .
It has been a nightmare
I can see I’ve let that cloud my judgment,
Solicitor has been informed, so they get their skip

OP posts:
wowfudge · 10/09/2020 08:51

Pay for a mini skip if that's all that's needed. All those people saying just get a man with a van, it's not that simple: the person you use has to have a waste transfer licence. Men with vans are notorious for fly tipping what they've charged you to remove - tips are wise to unlicensed contractors trying to use domestic waste recycling centres and limit vans getting access, ask for the paperwork, etc. If they fly tip it's your responsibility and you could be fined.

movingonup20 · 10/09/2020 08:53

Unless you states otherwise the house should be left empty, rubble must be removed

Nomorepies · 10/09/2020 08:53

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SavoyCabbage · 10/09/2020 08:54

Get a rubbish remover firm instead of a skip then, if you think it's I'll be cheaper.

The reduction in the price has nothing at all to do with the rubble.

movingonup20 · 10/09/2020 08:55

Ps I had a skip a month ago, you just didn't bother

BeachLane · 10/09/2020 08:55

Yes, definitely you pay for the skip. Didn't you fill in the form saying you won't leave any junk behind? As others have said, this is a different issue from the price. You agreed the price. You should have negotiated a price you were happy with. That has nothing to do with leaving the house in a reasonable, rubbish-free state.

damnthatanxiety · 10/09/2020 08:57

@Hoppinggreen

You have completed, it’s now their house and their garden. You don’t have to hire a skip for them, presumably they saw the rubble when they viewed the house
They also saw any furniture and other assorted crap in the house.The house is supposed to be emptied of all shit upon sale. Just because it is completed does not mean one is off the hook. If vendors trashed the place before handing over, then that wouldn't mean the new owners just suck it up. You don't seem to understand how this all works.
HannahStern · 10/09/2020 08:57

A house is only worth what someone is willing to pay and you agreed to the price offered.

You are in the wrong for not clearing out the rubble beforehand but this is forgivable give the circumstances. However, you are very unreasonable to think you should not pay for the skip.

Florencex · 10/09/2020 09:01

@weaselwords

Houses are not “sold as seen”, they are sold according to the sale contract. Unless rubble was included on the missives the corner owner is legally bound to remove it along with anything else that was not included in the sale.

GETTINGLIKEMYMOTHER · 10/09/2020 09:12

Sorry, but I agree that you should have had it removed.

I once delayed completion for 24 hours because (as I’d suspected) the vendor had left a load of rubbish inc. a manky old sofa in the flat - even though I’d clearly stipulated that it should be cleared completely.

Why should I have had to pay someone to take his junk away?

He was pretty pissed off, but tough.

MimiLaRue · 10/09/2020 09:15

@Lurchermom

When selling you have to declare anything you plan on leaving at the property. If you declared a pile of rubble in the garage, and they didn't quibble it then no, you don't need to pay for a skip.

If you didn't declare it, then yes you need to pay and they could go through solicitors to recoup the cost if you refuse.

Yup- this. If you did not declare you would be leaving rubble then YES of course you bloody have to move it.

It makes no difference what the asking price is - that was your choice and you could have refused to accept it. Nursing homes have all sorts of schemes whereby you can delay payment until the house is sold so its not quite as desperate as you make out. I now many people who moved into a nursing home, sold their houses months, or even years later and the nursing home put a charge on the property so its simply not true that you have to accept a ridiculously low offer to pay for a nursing home. That was your choice to do that.

starfishmummy · 10/09/2020 09:16

You need to pay for the skip and labour costs for someone to actually put the rubble into it. Of course you could ignore it and let them get a solicitor to claim the costs from you, and then you would have extra fees on top.

TheBusDriver · 10/09/2020 09:18

If completed what they going to do? It would cost them more to challenge you instead of getting rid of it themselves.

It wouldn't bother me too much but I reckon they could be using this as an excuse to get the skip

kirinm · 10/09/2020 09:18

You don't need to pay for the skip. You could refuse and they could sue you for the cost of the skip. Whether they will be bothered to do that who knows.

When we bought our flat which we were assured would be empty of the massive amount of furniture, we arrived to find a shitload of furniture and we couldn't get our furniture in. vendor tried to claim he had always said it would be left - he hadn't but he did have a propensity to lie through the entire purchase. We were told there really isn't much you can do post completion other than sue them - for us, the cost of removal wasn't enough to warrant the effort in suing.

FaffingForEngland · 10/09/2020 09:21

@Hoppinggreen

You have completed, it’s now their house and their garden. You don’t have to hire a skip for them, presumably they saw the rubble when they viewed the house
That really is nonsense. Unless it was agreed in writing by the buyers in advance.