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New owners after competition, wanting us to pay Out more

182 replies

Pringlemonster · 10/09/2020 07:56

Completed yesterday, have the money
Relatives house ,I’m trying to keep on top of situation ,but I’ve a difficult home life ,and I don’t live anywhere near the sold house.
They got us down £20000 of the asking price,
Elderly relative in rest home ,needs money to pay for care .
Cleared out relatives house as best could ,left some rubble in garage, due to Covid no one would remove .not a huge amount.
They are asking us to pay for a skip to remove rubble
Dh says I’m giving relatives house away as it is and he reall y disagrees if I pay for a skip for them.
It’s a huge plot of land ,and I too feel annoyed they pushed the price down.
AIBU to not pay for a skip

OP posts:
jellybean85 · 10/09/2020 08:12

Yes legally it needs to be removed by seller or they could take legal action. And not just for the cost of a skip the cost of someone to actually remove it.

I can't believe anyone just thought they could leave this without a conversation?! They might have agreed if you had explained or offered a few hundred £££.

If you're legally responsible for the estate as POA then yes get it sorted ASAP before they go to solicitor Confused

elessar · 10/09/2020 08:13

Yes of course you should pay. You shouldn't leave rubble, and it could have been dealt with! If there's not much you could have put in your car and gone to the tip.

The price has no bearing on this. You were not obliged to lower the price or to sell, and could have held out for a higher price if you felt it was worth more.

Hoppinggreen · 10/09/2020 08:13

I am not a lawyer so maybe check with your Solicitor what your obligation is

stillfeelingmad · 10/09/2020 08:13

Omg houses are not "sold as seen" ffs otherwise surely you get to keep all the sellers stuff Grin

But ye op get it moved

MaggieFS · 10/09/2020 08:14

If you said the property was being left empty or didn't specify the rubble, you should have removed it. There are plenty of waster clearance companies operating. I think they would have legal recourse so I'd just pay the money and be done with it rather then endure and more hassle.

jellybean85 · 10/09/2020 08:14

Sorry, should have said, I am a lawyer and yes it's your legal obligation

BoomBoomsCousin · 10/09/2020 08:15

They’re letting you off easy to only ask yo to pay for the skip and not for labour.

If you didn’t want to sell at the price you did then you shouldn’t have sold. Having sold it you should have passed it on to the new owner clear of all property unless you specifically said it was staying.

I can see it’s a pain for you, trying to sort everything out for your relative from a distance. But this is a contract made with the buyers and you are responsible for fulfilling it.

ThePants999 · 10/09/2020 08:15

"Sold as seen" is only applicable to the house itself and its fixtures and fittings. It is assumed in property sales that anything not a fixture or fitting will be removed by completion unless specifically mentioned on the contents form. Anything left behind that wasn't supposed to be is a breach of contract by the seller, and the buyer is entitled to get the seller to pay for the costs of making it right.

Original poster
Pringlemonster · 10/09/2020 08:18

Yeah ,thanks appreciate all the comments
Will instruct solicitor to pay for skip today
The whole thing has been a pain
And I do wish I’d not sold at that price ,
But it’s all going on care home fees ,and money was needed to pay for care home .
Thanks everyone

OP posts:
Original poster
Pringlemonster · 10/09/2020 08:20

My question wasn’t about me paying for it ,
I just felt theY were cheeky to ask ,it’s barely going to fill a fraction of a skip .
Feeling frustrated

OP posts:
RemyHadley · 10/09/2020 08:22

If it’s really not much stuff you could look into a hippo bag, may be cheaper than a skip.

RemyHadley · 10/09/2020 08:22

Here: www.hippowaste.co.uk/

Heptember · 10/09/2020 08:23

@Pringlemonster

My question wasn’t about me paying for it , I just felt theY were cheeky to ask ,it’s barely going to fill a fraction of a skip . Feeling frustrated
But it's a skip that they quite rightly didn't expect to need. I'd be really pissed off to find a load of shite I had to remove, it's so disrepectful to leave rubbish for someone else to deal with.

Anyway it sounds like you've had a rough time, I hope things are getting easier for you now Flowers

nosswith · 10/09/2020 08:25

Reasonable to ask, but should have been at the very beginning.

slipperywhensparticus · 10/09/2020 08:25

Get a local man with a van it's going to be cheaper

Do you think they want you to pay for a skip because they need a skip 🤔

HasaDigaEebowai · 10/09/2020 08:25

You can generally hire small skips for about £150

Neron · 10/09/2020 08:27

How is it cheeky of them to ask? You left rubble in their new home that they now need to spend time, energy and money to remove.
If it's such a small amount, and not about paying for it then we wouldn't have this thread.

Icequeen01 · 10/09/2020 08:27

I agree with everyone else that you must pay for a skip. You do have my sympathies regarding selling the house to cover care home fees. We were in a similar situation a few years ago but we had both my in-laws needing to go into a separate homes at the same time and the huge costs involved. As they had a large house we rented it out and the rent from that, plus their pensions, covered the care home fees. We then never had the worry that the money would run out and the house was able to pass to my DH and siblings when my IL's died, as per my in laws wishes.

LeroyJenkinssss · 10/09/2020 08:29

AIBU to not pay for a skip

Except that is literally what you asked.

Our sellers left a load of crap everywhere and then had the cheek to rock up two weeks later asking for some of it back (but not all of it, just the stuff they realised they actually wanted). It was a good thing my DH answered the door not me.

UnfinishedSymphon · 10/09/2020 08:29

You leave rubbish in a house then you remove it, it's not the buyers being cheeky here

Doje · 10/09/2020 08:31

Yeah, just get a man and a van if that's all it needs.

When I bought my flat, the owners had left some crap in there. I asked them to move it and they put it in a shopping trolley and left it outside the front door..... Classy area

EL8888 · 10/09/2020 08:34

You do need to pay for a skip. If l was on the receiving end of this, then l would go through my solicitor to get it resolved. No one wants a garage full of rubble

sherbetlemony · 10/09/2020 08:36

@Hoppinggreen

You have completed, it’s now their house and their garden. You don’t have to hire a skip for them, presumably they saw the rubble when they viewed the house
Presumably the op's furniture and belongings were also in the house during viewings. The buyers surely didn't expect that to be left as well?

Sold as seen means that if the kitchen is dated or the toilet doesn't work you know what you're getting. Not that the vendor leaves all their old crap in the property to be removed at your expense.

BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 10/09/2020 08:36

If it's not that much Then go and get it yourself.

Cocomarine · 10/09/2020 08:37

It doesn’t matter that it doesn’t fill a whole skip - when you pay for a skip, you’re also paying for the delivery of it and removal of it.
Most people use the word skip to encompass any size of skip - so as a PP mentioned, a hippo bag might do.

You were absolutely taking the piss to just dump it there!

If I had bought the house and found it there, my solicitor would have requested the cost of skip AND labour to fill it.

However, if you’d told me about it, and the Covid issue, and you being far away, and apologised and offered to pay for a skip - I’d have said, “thanks - don’t worry, we’ll need a skip for our own DIY so I’ll just chuck it in then.”

You were really out of order to just leave a pile of rubble there for them.

Nobody forced you to drop £20K either - it’s what the house was worth, otherwise you’d have had other offers and just turned that one down 🤷🏻‍♀️

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