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To feel in despair for the kids

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JudesBiggestFan · 08/09/2020 16:09

My son was one of 400 children sent home from two bubbles in his high school today to isolate for 14 days. He's in Year 7 and it was his fourth day in his new school.
He'd been catching the bus, made a new friend, had settled in so much better than I hoped after the past few chaotic disrupted months. And now he's home again.
Not only that, he is now going to miss his cricket presentation and first two football matches of the season, not be able to see friends and family, all for the pleasure of three days of schooling.
And I can see this happening over and over and over again. Luckily childcare isnt an issue as I work from home, but I'm just so sad for kids missing out. Six months off and it seems we're back where we started with no end in sight

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rainbowstardrops · 09/09/2020 14:41

@millymollymoomoo

Well I’m personally of the opinion that thus is madness and we shouldn’t be sending children home. We have to find a way to allow kids and young adults to go about Their business as normal.
What a bloody ridiculous thing to say! You clearly aren't in the vulnerable category and work in a school!
Codexdivinchi · 09/09/2020 15:04

@mrpumblechook

I often wonder what the people who say "we should just get on with it" actually do themselves and why they feel that they are so valuable in comparison to those that are vulnerable. Many of the posters seem to spend a lot of time on MN during the day suggesting that they don't have a lot to do. Maybe some people would say that they are the ones that aren't of much value.
You couldn’t answer my questions so decided to say that people that dont agree with you have no value to society... for doing the exact same thing as you being on MN... you’ve been here all day too - what a low opinion you just have of yourself ..

What a fucking hypocrite Grin

I ask you AGAIN where is your proof of this lag here or in the U.S??

And where are all the young people living if not at home with people over 45???

Are all the elderly and vulnerable locked in cupboards??

Come on show us your stats and figuresGrin

Dillydallyingthrough · 09/09/2020 15:43

Everyone has struggled or suffered and still are throughout this period. It's been so sad to watch people turn against each other, that is the saddest thing to take away from all of this. I do think the govt have encouraged this by constantly blaming various groups.

OP its shit, I think my DD will be in a similar position soon enough. Her education wasnt as affected as others, her school did a really good job of putting a full timetable on via Teams. But the change since she has gone back is lovely, she is smiling, happy and talkative. Obviously, I want her to stay like that but an old school friend died at the beginning of all this, he was 40, no health problems and much fitter than most (running, gym,etc.). For every person that says they have had it and been fine, there are others who have lost someone or know someone with long term health problems. It's a new virus and I do think if we could understand each other more, and work together to support each other (remember at the beginning of this?) it would be much easier to get through. Vulnerable people are not locked away, one of my DDs teacher is immunocompromised, her pastoral care is a BAME, over 60, diabetic. My parents are over 70, my DPs DM that lives with us at the moment is 70, immunocompromised. There are so many people that children come into contact with that would be at more risk maybe until we know more about the virus or have a vaccine. I do think blended learning should have been considered more but I don't think there is a 1 size fits all. Hopefully once we are through the winter everything will start looking up.

Stompythedinosaur · 09/09/2020 15:54

And no, I will say it. I am not willing to make any more ridiculous sacrifices so Great Aunt Joan can live to 100 rather than 99. I'm just not. If she wants to shield herself then great, crack on. It is not about purposefully killing these people, it is about them taking responsibility for themselves and not forcing the rest of us to pussy foot around for months or even years.

This is an incredibly awful, selfish point of view.

diplodocusinermine · 09/09/2020 15:57

Guess everyone who thinks the vulnerable and elderly should just suck it up are young and healthy. We'll see if you're still so willing to sacrifice older people when you're 75. Or vulnerable people when you have a child with serious health issues.

Graciebobcat · 09/09/2020 15:59

How many times can Y11s, say, miss two weeks of school? I would say only once before it will seriously affect their GCSEs, which have already being out of school for three months.

What measures will there be to help pupils in exam years who suffer multiple lockdowns?

millymollymoomoo · 09/09/2020 16:00

Last I looked this is a free country which, at least for now, affords free speech although I can see that liberty being eroded too I’m entitled to my opinions as anyone else and don’t fall into the trap of groupthink
You don’t have to agree as I don’t with many of the ridiculous hysterics on threads like these

AlexaShutUp · 09/09/2020 16:36

How many times can Y11s, say, miss two weeks of school? I would say only once before it will seriously affect their GCSEs, which have already being out of school for three months.

That's why, as the parent of a year 11 child, I'd have preferred a combination of part time school with blended learning for this age group. It would have been much less disruptive and unpredictable.

ListeningQuietly · 09/09/2020 16:54

Guess everyone who thinks the vulnerable and elderly should just suck it up are young and healthy. We'll see if you're still so willing to sacrifice older people when you're 75.
Nah, lots of over 75s want to get on with living
not wait to die in isolation
judging by the numbers of them back at my gym

IloveJKRowling · 09/09/2020 16:56

The average years lost is about 13 (from deaths from covid).

It's mostly not 'deaths brought forward'.

motherrunner · 09/09/2020 17:03

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user1471500037 · 09/09/2020 17:08

We all need to fight against social distancing as much as possible

user1471500037 · 09/09/2020 17:10

I think a lot of lockdown supporters are not doing it because they care but because they are personally scared and hysterical about the virus

AlexaShutUp · 09/09/2020 17:11

We all need to fight against social distancing as much as possible.

FFS!

ChavvySexPond · 09/09/2020 17:11

@Graciebobcat

How many times can Y11s, say, miss two weeks of school? I would say only once before it will seriously affect their GCSEs, which have already being out of school for three months.

What measures will there be to help pupils in exam years who suffer multiple lockdowns?

All questions we asked on here when the government published their plan.
walksen · 09/09/2020 17:12

We all need to fight against social distancing as much as possible

Because you want to cancel Christmas as well?

Maybe people want schools to stay open and kids not be sent home all the time because of your rebellion......

Stompythedinosaur · 09/09/2020 17:19

We all need to fight against social distancing as much as possible

This is the stupidest thing I've read online this week.

Social distancing is the most reliable way of stopping Covid from spreading. It isnt that restricting - most of us can still see friends and do many things we want to, just with some added caution.

If everyone had stuck to spcial distancing then we wouldn't be in the current situation, where the selfish individuals who feel they are too good to follow the rules place everyone around them at risk.

BeijingBikini · 09/09/2020 17:26

And no, I will say it. I am not willing to make any more ridiculous sacrifices so Great Aunt Joan can live to 100 rather than 99. I'm just not. If she wants to shield herself then great, crack on. It is not about purposefully killing these people, it is about them taking responsibility for themselves and not forcing the rest of us to pussy foot around for months or even years.

I agree.

BeijingBikini · 09/09/2020 17:29

This is an incredibly awful, selfish point of view.

I actually think it's incredibly selfish and awful to throw young people under the bus and expect them to sacrifice many elements of their day-to-day life to lower YOUR risk of catching a disease. I don't expect complete strangers to avoid the motorway so I have less chance of death, and I wouldn't be so entitled as to expect the entire country to curtail their way of life for my behalf and call them "selfish" for wanting to live as normal. I would just shield myself and let my grandchildren get on with living.

Charliescar · 09/09/2020 17:31

Shut pubs and restaurants again !!!!

BlusteryShowers · 09/09/2020 17:38

@Charliescar I really disagree with this. These are people's livelihoods. When do get back to normal, I would like there to still be a normal to get back to, rather than a ghost town of failed businesses.

IloveJKRowling · 09/09/2020 17:51

Sigh. There is no way one part of society (deemed 'vulnerable') can be separated from the rest and, say, taken to camps or kept under house arrest. We're too interconnected. The vulnerable are parents, spouses, children. Employers and employees, too.

The more coronavirus there is the more the NHS, the very fabric of society will be affected, things will break down. S Korea have been able to carry on without lockdown because they all wear masks, social distance and keep the levels of virus low. Ditto NZ.

The reason we locked down was BECAUSE no one was social distancing or reducing transmission and BECAUSE levels of virus got too high.

If people want normal, limit your contacts and social distance, and wear a mask. That, unfortunately, is your only option.

If everyone behaves like they did in March, then we're going to have April again.

Snailsetssail · 09/09/2020 17:53

Schools are going to have to find a better way to do this than huge year group bubbles. The chances of him catching it from an unknown member of his year group he may have passed on the corridor are slim. They will end up having to just self isolate the people the child sat near during lessons or on the bus. Not the whole year.

Codexdivinchi · 09/09/2020 17:54

@Charliescar

Shut pubs and restaurants again !!!!
No. I have friends in the hospitality business. I do t don’t want them to be forced in to bankruptcy and lose their homes thanks!

And part time school might be ok when you have SAHP - but what about the parents that both work? I know it’s the consensus on MN that school isn’t child care but it’s a real fucking problem.

Why should people lose their homes when this is only effecting about 2% of the population?

Charliescar · 09/09/2020 18:01

@Codexdivinchi I think that bars are especially bad , people forget about social distancing . I would much prefer for schools to remain open than bars . Yes, they are people’s livelihoods, but I work in legal and am still furloughed, so I am not sure if I have a job to go back to either .