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to not want DD(14) to have this T-Shirt

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SqueamishMum · 01/09/2020 11:56

Need a sanity check here (have name-changed so this isn't linked to other threads as I may be identifiable here)

A couple of weeks ago, DD(14) and I went to a thrift shop. I had given her some money to spend. She came up to me holding a T-Shirt balled up in her hands so I couldn't see the design, saying she was going to buy it.

Once she had bought it, she said to me "mum, you're not going to like this" and showed me the design on the T-Shirt. Basically it is a cartoon of someone getting their arm shredded in a blender with their eyes popping out. It is quite stylised and cartoony, but it is, in my opinion, gory (lots of cartoon blood).

I was unimpressed and said to her that I wasn't happy with her having it. She then said to me "oh well, too late to return it now" and swanned out of the shop.

I was pretty angry at her attitude and called her back. I went up to the counter with her and said she was to return it. The young woman behind the counter looked at the T-Shirt and said "really? I like it". I repeated that it was to be returned. She turned to my daughter and said "do you want to return it?". I said to her again that it was to be returned. My daughter was saying "it's my money!", but then relented and said she would return it.

The manager had to be called. The T-shirt was returned. My daughter went back into the shop to find something else to buy. I was feeling really angry, with my daughter for trying to get one over on me, but more with the attitude of the shop assistant undermining me, so I waited outside the shop.

My daughter came out with a couple of non-gory T-shirts and we left.

It has since transpired that the shop assistant, feeling sorry for my daughter, gave her the gory t-shirt free of charge.

My daughter confessed this to me, then said she had worn it out, and her dad really likes it, his girlfriend really likes it, her friend and her friend's mother really likes it. It's only me that doesn't like it. (Her dad btw utterly despises me and will take any opportunity to undermine me with her).

I personally feel it's really antisocial to wear a t-shirt like that out at the park (as DD has been doing) where there are small kids. It's a nasty image and it makes me feel squeamish every time I see it.

I've told DD that I don't want her wearing it around me. She said OK . This weekend she came back from her dad's wearing it. I told her to change and she said "it's fine, I'm only going to be wearing it upstairs where you can't see".

I'm not generally draconian about my daughter's style choices - I just find the image on this T-shirt inappropriate. However, it seems the shop assistant and other adults she's talked to about it since think I'm over the top.

I'm willing to accept that maybe I am being - but feel DD's testing boundaries on quite a few things atm. I'm generally a bit of a pushover and was trying to be less so this time.

Would be really interested to know what others think

Thanks

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Purpl · 02/09/2020 18:51

What’s wrong with crop tops and ripped jeans ? At 14 ? Enjoy your lovely flat stomach while you can

TwilightPeace · 02/09/2020 18:53

The t-shirt would go straight into the bin and a furious letter would be going to the shop if this was my daughter. If you’ve told her she isn’t having it and she gets it anyway, what will happen with the more serious issues? Seems that she’s rubbing it in your face now too....

This thread is hilarious! 😂😂 Fucking hell!
It’s a t-shirt! So what if you don’t like it? I’ll bet she doesn’t like your clothes either...

I honestly can’t believe people are encouraging you to ‘accidentally’ destroy it. If someone can on here and said their husband was destroying their clothes, posters would be screaming that he was an abusive psycho. It’s ok to do it to your own child though if you don’t like their clothes 🙄

You have control issues OP. Your daughter is growing up and will legally be an adult in a few short years. Let her become her own person.

I feel really sorry for her tbh. Your life must be pretty empty and miserable to become THAT fixated on a T-shirt and caused such a huge embarrassing fuss over it OP.

year5teacher · 02/09/2020 18:56

Oh my god.

This is the most ridiculous overreaction.

year5teacher · 02/09/2020 19:03

Just read your replies on the thread and whilst I still think it was an overreaction I also think you sound like an absolutely lovely, caring and kind mum and your daughter is incredibly lucky to have someone like you who inspects their own behaviour and apologises when they’re wrong. Flowers

Lisa82sim · 02/09/2020 19:08

Although I think your being over the top with a t-shirt... She likes it, you don't, she's the one wearing it.... There's alot worse she could wear... But it's her attitude that would make me boil. She's 14, and to be that sneeky for any reason and wear it behind your back would annoy me. But I would be more angry at the shop assistant for giving to her... To the point I would return to the shop and complain

TwilightPeace · 02/09/2020 19:10

*to be that sneeky for any reason and wear it behind your back would annoy me

Controlling parents create sneaky children.

flowerpot6 · 02/09/2020 19:11

Hi OP, I've read the whole thread and think it's really impressive how much you've taken comments on board. I agree with PP, she's 14, whatever you think or say, she will find a way around you, and soon she'll be making bigger decisions than T-shirts. I have a few suggestions (based on years of working with teenagers - mine are all still small):

  • Talk to your DD about why it pushed your buttons and open up that conversation, it will give her cause to think next time
  • Ask her to think about where it's appropriate to wear the T-shirt, and where it's not, this is giving her responsibility over the offensive nature of it and including her in the decision making
  • Talk to her about how things are handled with your ex and how it makes her, and you, feel. He's placing all sorts of responsibilities on her shoulders, and whilst you can't stop him doing that, you can equip her to deal with it and to challenge it. Please don't for one second let her think it's OK for him to talk about you that way, it sets a huge example to her and has the potential to influence her relationships in the future. This is something that will most likely stay with her for a long time - as someone who has been that child, I'd recommend you tackle it head on. Good luck.
SouthWestLolly · 02/09/2020 19:12

Agree with somebody above in that you should pick your battles.

If it was offensive/see through or something equally silly then fine object.

A cartoon with some gore isnt really that bad.

SqueamishMum · 02/09/2020 19:17

@year5teacher - thank you. I really appreciate you saying that.

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YummyJamDoughnut · 02/09/2020 19:20

It's up to you if you have an issue with the shirt and if you let her wear it in your house/around you.

Actually I would be most annoyed with he shop assistant.

SqueamishMum · 02/09/2020 19:22

Thank you @flowerpot6, that’s really helpful and I appreciate you taking the time to read all this long thread and for your suggestions

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Echobelly · 02/09/2020 19:28

Not a battle worth picking. It's only clothes. I probably wouldn't like that t-shirt either, but wouldn't consider it worth saying anything.

honeybee88 · 02/09/2020 19:28

She lives in your house and your rules rule! I would have smiled...let her take it home and then it just 😳...disappeared somehow in the washing.....😱

P999 · 02/09/2020 19:30

I havent read the whole thread but it sounds to me like your ex, and his toxic behaviour, is a big factor in all this. Its not just about a t-shirt? And is being a massive shit with his awful behaviour with his trying to draw some kind of wedge and messing with your relationship with her (dont let him win). Can you have a firm word with him, and place it totally in the context of your dd welbeing? (I.e. i dont care what you think if me. But sgut the fuck up in front of our dd. Maybe with slightly softer terminology). Flowers

wiltshirelass1418 · 02/09/2020 19:32

When I was 14 I wore a T-shirt that said "if you think I'm a bitch, wait until you meet my mother"

I thought it was cool and would get a reaction. It didn't. So the T-shirt didn't get worn that often.

For all those parents talking about sneakily damaging the T-shirt, bloody hell, so lying to your teen and deliberately damaging their things is more childish than a cartoon T-shirt

P999 · 02/09/2020 19:32

Sorry for typos.

Rhumatoidwarrior88 · 02/09/2020 19:40

I wouldn't push it . I would give her free reign for a while . The more u push the more my own internal teenage angst wants to wear something gory

mumtobabygilrl · 02/09/2020 19:42

A shop assistant gave it to her??? Sorry op but are you sure she didn't steal it?? Sorry to ask it's just I find it very unusual that a shop assistant would be able to give something away?

EnjoyingTheSilence · 02/09/2020 19:43

Be kind to yourself @SqueamishMum, not one single one of us gets it right all of the time. God knows how many times I’ve fucked up!

You’ve done an amazing thing by admitting you made a mistake and apologising to your dd and talking to her. She now knows it’s ok to get things wrong and admit it, great life lesson

YummyJamDoughnut · 02/09/2020 19:44

@mumtobabygilrl

A shop assistant gave it to her??? Sorry op but are you sure she didn't steal it?? Sorry to ask it's just I find it very unusual that a shop assistant would be able to give something away?
More likely the daughter brought it and said that the assistant gave it to her.
Harls1969 · 02/09/2020 19:47

My advice is to play it down, even pretend you like it. The more you try to put your foot down, the more she'll rebel. It could be worse, it could have swearing or something sexual on it. The sales assistant shouldn't have given it to her though

Hickorydickoryspock · 02/09/2020 19:49

I think you are being a little bit ott here... i mean its hardly swearing or graphic sex or violence on the tshirt. Its a cartoon... it doesnt sound very tasteful but what 14 year old dresses tastefully anyway? I shudder when I think back to some of the things I wore. I'd just let this one go tbh... its a bad sign the charity shop staff felt so sorry for her that they just gave it to her.. i mean that ought to tell you you are being a little uptight here. I think by 14 you need to pick your battles and thos one just seems to be controlling for the sake of it. Its basically justa tshirt you do not personally like.

Funguy · 02/09/2020 19:53

What a bizarre post... surely a shop assistant is not authorised to GIVE away their stock? They would be sacked.
Is this for real?

YogiBearcub · 02/09/2020 19:56

When I was at that age, my mum insisted I should get tattoos as she thought they were cool, stop studying as I was pretty enough not to waste my time on it and get as many ear piercings as possible to fit on my ear.

Whether a deliberate strategy or not, I ended up spending my teenage years despising tattoos, wearing twinsets and pearls and joining a debating club to make sure I did even better in school than before.

At that age if you think something is hthe puts she will think it must be the best thing ever and vice versa. Get one the same cos you think it's really cool and explain you were just upset before that she disobeyed you, and insist you wear it when you go out together and it will soon end up in the back of the cupboard.

SqueamishMum · 02/09/2020 19:56

It wasn’t a charity shop. It was a commercial second hand place. I don’t think for one second that DD stole it. The way the shop assistant was behaving in the shop makes the story of her giving it to DD for free ring true. I’m not going to complain. I’ve accepted that I messed up on this occasion and apologised and talked it through with DD

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