Sister not wanting to self isolate

[1234Julia]

My sister has just returned from a two month holiday in Bulgaria (her husband is Bulgarian) but is refusing to self isolate for 14d. Bulgaria is on the list of countries that you need to self isolate. I’m so angry at the moment at her selfish attitude. She says she need to pop out for food... my argument is she can buy it online and get it delivered the same day/ she should have thought about this before going on her holiday ! She could have put a few pizzas, bread and milk in the freezer. Anyway I’m not on talking terms right now and she’s telling me I’m over reacting and insecure for feeling like this !
Surely I’m not !

You are allowed to go out and buy food though so she isn’t doing anything wrong.
She might not be able to get a same day slot.

She could have booked a delivery slot for Tesco and get it delivered the same day. I checked!!! She lives in London and I don’t! I’m a 2 hr dive away hence why I’m not buying her food

@BluebellsGreenbells

No they aren’t

That is the generic UK advice, however there are additional rules depending which part of the UK (which I a not saying makes sense but it is there). As OP’s sister is going to be in England, they are allowed to go out for food and medicine if they cannot get it delivered. Somebody provided a snapshot of this above abc the official link is here.

www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-how-to-self-isolate-when-you-travel-to-the-uk/coronavirus-covid-19-how-to-self-isolate-when-you-travel-to-the-uk

I know several people who have recently returned from holiday and not one of them is self isolating. I can’t get worked up about it either !

@1234Julia

She could have booked a delivery slot for Tesco and get it delivered the same day. I checked!!! She lives in London and I don’t! I’m a 2 hr dive away hence why I’m not buying her food

Sorry, are you saying you checked her postcode against tescos slots? Because if so, you need to calm down. I live in a busy city and can't get a delivery slot for 2 weeks at any given time.

IF you're not happy about it, keep away from her - no need to get your knickers in a twist.

IF you're not happy about it, keep away from her - no need to get your knickers in a twist

She’s two hours away.

What about the people she comes into contact with who don’t know she’s been away? Sod them then?

@BluebellsGreenbells

IF you're not happy about it, keep away from her - no need to get your knickers in a twist

She’s two hours away.

What about the people she comes into contact with who don’t know she’s been away? Sod them then?

Unless they're snogging her or she's coughing right in their faces they needn't worry too much.

But won't it all be ok as long as she wears one of the marvellous masks?

I see no reason to get het up over this.

Bulgaria's cases are much lower than ours, so if anything it should be them making us quarantine if we go over there.

The whole thing has taken on an air of utter ridiculousness.

Well if your 2 hours away then it’s not like she will infect you. Chill out.

She could use Beelivery and other similar services to get some essentials in today, and order Morrisons boxes for tomorrow.

Sainsbury's usually have delivery slots at reasonably short notice, I often log on and see a slot for the next day or even the same day (also in London).

I would tell a school if someone was breaking quarantine. Schools are going to struggle as it is, they don’t need that added risk

I agree. Breaking quarantine is irresponsible and puts children's education and other people's lives at risk.

The whole thing has taken on an air of utter ridiculousness.

Oh really? You clearly haven't lost anyone to the virus, seen very sick people with the virus or lost a job due to a local lockdown. Well, lucky you.

@1234Julia

She could have booked a delivery slot for Tesco and get it delivered the same day. I checked!!! She lives in London and I don’t! I’m a 2 hr dive away hence why I’m not buying her food

I think it is fair enough to point out the rules to her and encourage her to abide to them. But I would also try to keep perspective.

Bulgaria’s death rate and case rate is a fraction of ours in the UK, she would be more of a risk if she had spent the last two months here rather than there.

Whether or not the list is politically motivated is really irrelevant and is just being used an excuse by people who can't be bothered to inconvenience themselves. You can't pick and choose which laws to obey or decide that a certain speed limit isn't based on risk so you're going to ignore it.

FeedMeSantiago

OP stated clearly she can get a delivery but chooses not to.

I'm with you on this one. Currently quarantining due to working overseas and I haven't left the house. Booked a Tesco delivery before I went and have DC/friends available to pick up stuff.

However until the UK is seen to be checking up that travellers are following the rules, people like your sister will always see what they can get away with.

My DP's health has been absolutely destroyed by Covid which was picked up around the beginning of the lock down and we've been dealing with the "long covid" situation ever since. Its been 5 months (and counting) of absolute hell which i would not wish on anyone. We are in our mid 30s and previously healthy.

While I had no Covid symptoms, it has severely affected my mental health dealing with the long term care of and worry for my DP. For all we know it was picked up from an asymptomatic carrier in a super market.

Your sister and anyone who claims to "not be able to get worked up" about people breaking these rules need to have a serious think about how you could be affecting others by spreading this virus without even knowing.

One of the reasons our figures are as high as they are is the number of people just doing what they want. I'd struggle to remain on speaking terms with someone doing this.

And if I knew someone sending their child to school when they should be in quarantine I'd inform the school.

When we were in proper lockdown a few months ago I found out that my mum had been meeting my brother to walk his dog, just because she was bored and lonely. She is a serious extrovert and I get that she's missing human contact but I was furious. I then found out that she had my brother and his fiancée round for a BBQ (still in lockdown) and when I pointed out that her neighbours would see this, she said "oh, fuck them". She also drove 45 minutes to visit my 86yo granny ("just in her garden!") even though my uncle lives with her and was making sure she had everything she needed while shielding.

As soon as she was allowed visitors, she had my uncle over and sent me selfies of them cuddled up together. She totally ignored me when I said she was still supposed to distance from guests. I also ranted to her about people not wearing masks properly after I'd been to the supermarket and she said "I understand but I don't like having my nose covered".

I could honestly scream. She keeps texting me long, mooning paragraphs about how she misses me and wants to see me but I just don't bloody trust her.

Bulgaria looks like it's going to be put on the safe list from Thursday because it's cases are so low, FYI.

@amusedbush

When we were in proper lockdown a few months ago I found out that my mum had been meeting my brother to walk his dog, just because she was bored and lonely. She is a serious extrovert and I get that she's missing human contact but I was furious. I then found out that she had my brother and his fiancée round for a BBQ (still in lockdown) and when I pointed out that her neighbours would see this, she said "oh, fuck them". She also drove 45 minutes to visit my 86yo granny ("just in her garden!") even though my uncle lives with her and was making sure she had everything she needed while shielding.

As soon as she was allowed visitors, she had my uncle over and sent me selfies of them cuddled up together. She totally ignored me when I said she was still supposed to distance from guests. I also ranted to her about people not wearing masks properly after I'd been to the supermarket and she said "I understand but I don't like having my nose covered".

I could honestly scream. She keeps texting me long, mooning paragraphs about how she misses me and wants to see me but I just don't bloody trust her.

You sound like hardwork.

@022828MAN

I sound like hard work?? So, you'd be happy to be stuck at home following the rules while your mother quite openly swanned around doing whatever she wanted because she was "bored"?

@1234Julia

The problem is that - as people say - there is very little "random" enforcement with anyone official simply turning up to check. I would certainly inform any school and I would be tempted to talk to this silly person [possibly with one other] and let her know what her obligations are.

But of course under the circumstances you cannot! so a phone call perhaps?