To think I'm the only one still living a distanced life...

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I'm still strictly distancing, because, well
that's the rules!
But I know very little people that still are.!!

The thing is, I'm so miserable because of it.

I have a 7 month old baby that my mum hasn't held since March. My mum
works around a lot of people and I've not felt like it's a good Idea for her to hold the baby.

I've barely seen friends because the weather is rubbish for outdoor meet ups!

We can't go for coffee because how do you stay 2m away from someone and drink a coffee in a shop together?!
Same for going for lunch or a drink etc.

It's all starting to drive me crazy and I really miss seeing properly.

How long are we expected to keep this up for!!

Should I just stop this now and get back to normal?!

"Your baby will be at more risk from not being able to build up natural antibodies and not being socialised that she will a hug with your mum"

Why do I keep reading this? Do none of you read anything about child development before you have babies? Children that young don't need to socialise for goodness sake.

Let the OP make her own choices instead of yelling at her in order to justify your own choices.

@yahoosername

"Is it worth putting my small baby at risk?!

The advice is to social distance.

It's only in Scotland where children don't need to distance from adults.

I'm in England!"

Read this. Read it. Does it make any reasonable, logical sense to you? Your baby isn't at risk from COVID-19. She isn't. The scientists are telling you that.

She is at risk from being completely unsocialised. This can be so damaging and isn't something we've tested as a society really before. You are taking big risks for both you and your child by living your life like this.

@yahoosername

Okay, so say my baby gets is (hopefully never will) transmits it to me or my husband.
We get ill. Too ill to look after her! Then what?!

I'm asthmatic and overweight so I have a good chance of being very ill.

I do socialise and have done lots outdoors.

My baby sees a lot of people including other babies and children!!

We don't sit indoors unless it rains, which over the last few weeks we've had a lot. Including today!!

Even indoors we do lots and lots of activities.

I can't deny I'm feeling miserable from not socialising as much.

All of this getting back out seems to be money driven.

The virus is absolutely no different to what it was back in March and I struggle to understand how it's safe to break the 2m rule by having lunch or coffee with friends.

And even indoor meet up seems risky.

Say someone is asymptotic. They could spread droplets in your home by talking etc. How is that safe?

Perhaps I'm being over the top. I just feel much safer outdoors but the weather right now is rubbish.

@MsTSwift

That made be smile.... thanks.... you are of course correct - give it 5 years and we will be seeing the 'Am I the only one still..... ' even though there are one or two cases a year

Well when we there Uk was at 18 per 100000 infection rate and Italy was at 9 so was actually safer there.

"Do none of you read anything about child development before you have babies? Children that young don't need to socialise for goodness sake"

Based on what you're reading you may believe that. If the OP keeps her child away from her Mother for 5years or more do you really believe they could have the same bond as if they were allowed to socialise from birth?

"The virus is absolutely no different to what it was back in March"

It is though. Why are people saying this? If course it is so very different now, due to the lower rate of infection.

Your OP suggests that you aren't doing the things you've just described!

dancinggatgif

Why do I keep reading this? Do none of you read anything about child development before you have babies? Children that young don't need to socialise for goodness sake.

Let the OP make her own choices instead of yelling at her in order to justify your own choices.

Agree. Children don’t need to “socialise” outside of their family for at least 2 years. I was put under quite a lot of pressure by other people to start baby groups then nursery when our youngest was really very small. HV categorically told me there was no need for his sake whatsoever, all he needed at that stage of his life was us and we should maybe revisit the idea around his second birthday.

@yahoosername

"Do none of you read anything about child development before you have babies? Children that young don't need to socialise for goodness sake"

Based on what you're reading you may believe that. If the OP keeps her child away from her Mother for 5years or more do you really believe they could have the same bond as if they were allowed to socialise from birth?

@yahoosername

She's 7 months old. She's spent time with people including being held!

First few months after she was born lots of people held her.

And actually she knows who her grandparents are! She sees them regularly.
We've done lots of garden meet ups.

I also go on walks with my mum so she know exactly who she is.

"Based on what you're reading you may believe that. If the OP keeps her child away from her Mother for 5years or more do you really believe they could have the same bond as if they were allowed to socialise from birth? hmm"

Where did she say anything about keeping the baby away for five years? Did I miss that or are you just talking out of your arse?

In fact you said it's making you so miserable, making you crazy, you've barely seen any friends.

Are you telling me that those things are not potentially more harmful to your family?

This is so very sad and I do follow the guidance. Where are you OP? Surely there are outdoor areas with sufficient cover to make you feel safe? If your mum sanitised and wore a face covering whilst she holds the baby for 5 minutes then the risk is reduced to pretty much zero

Yahoosername

Based on what you're reading you may believe that. If the OP keeps her child away from her Mother for 5years or more do you really believe they could have the same bond as if they were allowed to socialise from birth?

That’s not for the baby’s benefit though, it’s for OP’s mother.
Our children lived hundreds of miles away from their grandparents, saw them maybe 4 times a year. Great relationships. Our daughter’s 26 and is in almost constant touch with my mum.

It's only in Scotland where children don't need to distance from adults.

Do you think the virus behaves differently in Scotland?

@SueEllenMishke

It's only in Scotland where children don't need to distance from adults.

Do you think the virus behaves differently in Scotland?

@SueEllenMishke

Well someone clearly does to create the rule. 😂

"Do you think the virus behaves differently in Scotland?"

No one thinks that, no.

There’s such a huge difference between going ‘back to normal’ and remaining in isolation.

So I’m seeing family and friends. But my life is nothing like it was before lock down - still working from home, no travelling, I’m wearing a mask when out and about shopping,

@DancingCatGif

Where did she say anything about keeping the baby away for five years? Did I miss that or are you just talking out of your arse?

Talking out of their arse!! I didn't say that.
Not sure why anyone would just assume I'm going to keep my baby away from my mum for 5 years.🙄

My baby sees my mum, regularly.

She just hasn't held since the start of lockdown.

I don’t really get these posts. You obviously think what you’re doing is best for you and your family, so carry on doing what you’re doing. It’s fine.
We are still obeying the ‘rules’, but my children have gone back to school so they obviously aren’t social distancing from their friends. I’m happy to keep a low profile elsewhere in order to reduce the risk of them picking anything up outside of school and taking it in to school. Anything for minimal disruption to their education.
My mum is in our bubble as she lives alone so we see her without social distancing. We see other family and friends as per the guidance. I have been for coffee and drinks with friends while staying 2m apart.

Well someone clearly does to create the rule.

It's all political..... I personally think we shouldn't be asking children to social distance

@Kaktus

I have been for coffee and drinks with friends while staying 2m apart.

Same table?

@SueEllenMishke

It's only in Scotland where children don't need to distance from adults.

Do you think the virus behaves differently in Scotland?

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If the rules are to keep such a distance that we cannot safely sit a a table with friends , restaurants and cafe would not be open, like they were not in march/april, its like u want everyone to say yes dont see anyone for coffee or dinner. Keep ur baby away from hugs from family. That is not sustainable and shouldn't be encouraged. Im not sure what u want to get from this thread. Do u want a medal for keeping isolated? Fo u want people who r not doing it 'ur way' to feel guilty? Im not sure

@Duggeehugs82

If the rules are to keep such a distance that we cannot safely sit a a table with friends , restaurants and cafe would not be open, like they were not in march/april, its like u want everyone to say yes dont see anyone for coffee or dinner. Keep ur baby away from hugs from family. That is not sustainable and shouldn't be encouraged. Im not sure what u want to get from this thread. Do u want a medal for keeping isolated? Fo u want people who r not doing it 'ur way' to feel guilty? Im not sure

@Duggeehugs82

I guess it was just to see how other people are managing really and as my title suggests, am I the only one still strictly distancing?

I'm very cautious but have met people in gardens and have eaten outside at pubs with lots of hand sanitizing and sitting as far apart as possible. Have been briefly to some shops but stayed away from people without masks.

I'm not ready to venture indoors yet.

My mantra is that just because we are allowed to do things, doesn't mean it's safe to do so. They are balancing the economy and covid risk. So I will be interacting as safely as I possibly can, staying outdoors and keeping the distance. I'm dreading the winter as for the past three weeks the weather has been pretty awful here and it's been hit or miss whether I've been able to keep to plans made.

Op meet people outside and keep your distance but you do need to see some people for your mental health.

OP you are reasonable to try and keep within the rules, but as a woman who is young enough to have a new baby and is not obese you are at very low risk. At the beginning of the epidemic Covid 19 was seen as essentially a respiratory disease so people with asthma were naturally assumed to be on the “vulnerable” list, but as we’ve got more data there’s been very little evidence that people with moderate well controlled asthma are at any additional risk. Bear in mind that this is a very common disease, so if it were a major risk factor it would be very obvious very quickly, like it has been with diabetes and high blood pressure.

If you have severe asthma and are regularly hospitalised then that’s different and you are at increased risk, but you don’t mention that. Also you don’t mention being obese or black or Asian, so I’m guessing that you don’t have those risk factors.

Here’s a useful rule of thumb guide I saw in a BMJ article which I find helpful in contextualising risk (just posted it on another similar thread). I steer well clear of “red” activities unless it’s completely unavoidable and do my best to minimise time spent in amber situations.

I think my point is u do not need to and is detrimental to strictly distance, we dont need to do that, we do need to be careful and not just completely forget we r in a pandemic, when we go out im not saying we can just get close to everyone , im just saying u do not get a medal for being extra careful to the point of stopping living ur life. I have heen inside for a meal twice since they opened. And been careful both times (making sure we were away from others, antibacterial the table) its clear being careful to the point of proventing u doing things isnt going to help ur MH and thqt also needs to he looked after especially having a young baby. When being a parent is difficult anyways without adding the pandemic