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To be irritated / concerned about DH's obsession with Ben Shapiro?

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WakingUp55643 · 25/08/2020 11:21

DH spends a lot of time on an evening watching youtube videos. This used to be on his own computer, with headphones, but now he just puts them on the TV and inflicts it on all of us. Yes I should just tell him to pack it in, but the bigger issue here is the type of people he follows obsessively. His latest mancrush is Ben Shapiro. Last night he even watched a video of him as a child playing the violin, ffs. Amongst the other people he admires are Jordan Peterson, Nigel bloody Farage, Laurence Fox, Ann Widdecombe.........
But because I finally snapped and showed my annoyance at this a couple of weeks ago and asked why he chose to sit in the house watching this stuff rather than play out in the garden with his kids (it's always me who plays with them) apparently it's my fault for not 'inviting' him out to join in. And then if I don't respond to his polite chats about how my day has been etc, it's me who's creating an atmosphere.
Am I really being unreasonable by being annoyed at this????! I'm really REALLY trying to be supportive at the moment as he is having real difficulties with anxiety, but honestly it drains the soul out of me. He suggested he would like to go and visit his mum for the weekend (quite a long drive) and I said he could take the car, then last night he announced that he'd changed his mind. I have never been so disappointed. I need a break from this.

OP posts:
KarenFitzkaren · 28/08/2020 08:14

I didn't realise that they appealed to anyone who isn't an incel

I like jordon Peterson and laurence fox. I am also not an incel.

Cybercontroller · 28/08/2020 18:53

Do you prefer the term mgtow?

user1471565182 · 28/08/2020 19:22

How many of 'I disagree with Shapiro but''

&

'You're taking Peterson's words out of context'

is that now?

we all know what they are. Who are you trying to convince?

Shapiro just talks really fast over anybody and thinks hes 'won'.

And OP just leave, hes reverting back being a 14 year old. Hes ruining family life, probably so he can then blame it on the evil woman when you get fed up with his pathetic self-pity.

salty78 · 28/08/2020 20:27

@AryaStarkWolf there's a difference between "forced marriage" and "enforced monogamy". Jordan Peterson talks about re-enforcing the norms of monogamy in marriage so that parters are less likely to be d*cks and sleep around. Which is the whole point of marriage??

I keep thinking I'm missing something here, I just don't see misogyny in his book or his speeches. Yes he wants women to be proud of childbearing and enjoy the "traditional" role of nurturing a family rather than feeling like unless they also have a successful career they've failed. Which is a totally feminist viewpoint IMO. He also wants men to grow up, stop being pathetic man-children who can't look after themselves and take responsibility in the world.

So many threads on Mumsnet are about exactly these issues, like this one, and a lot of JP has a lot of sound positive advice for both men and women.

OPs partner is obviously not listening to JPs advice or he would change his behaviour.

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