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Media blackout on marches happening today

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orangesnapples · 22/08/2020 15:23

Is it me or is it not very strange that 1000s of people currently marching though our major cities today and no media coverage?

They are marching for our children's rights, to awareness to trafficking etc

Does the lack of coverage just play into the hands of those that accuse the media of being part of the problem.

They are currently peacefully marching to bring awareness because there sadly is hardly any awareness of trafficking, most people have the completely strep typical idea of what trafficking is, that is all some world wide elite club.
But the sad truth it looks very different, and is probably happening in a home near you right now.

So why no coverage. My SM is flooded with 1000s I f people walking the streets of Liverpool, London etc.

I don't want to believe there is darkness in control of our media and what we see etc but honestly I can't think for the life of me why this isn't being covered.

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PhilSwagielka · 22/08/2020 23:15

I'm also going to add something I saw elsewhere, not written by me:

It's very stupid too, because as we all know from many industries and redacted in the White House, actual pedophiles or sexual predators don't need to hide it. They can be right there in the open and they don't need to do all this conspiracy shit because they already rigged the game in its favor. The information is right there, it's not something that needs to be cleverly hidden. These people are so ignorant of how victim blaming and abuse actually works in society, possibly due to them having a need for the just world fallacy so they want to think if abuse is still happening, it must be because of some secret cabal you can easily take down and not the banal reality of evil that people can know a powerful person is a predator and just not care or turn the other way.

Stripesgalore · 22/08/2020 23:23

Info on the increase in U.K. child trafficking here from anti slavery international:

‘The report ‘Before the Harm is Done’, stresses that the UK has no specific strategy in relation to preventing trafficking in children, putting thousands of children at risk.

There were 2,118 suspected child trafficking victims reported to the UK authorities in 2017, comprising nearly half (41%) of the total number of potential victims and constituting a concerning 66% increase from the year before.

British children make up the biggest group of suspected victims, with 677 children from the UK referred to the authorities. The increase in county lines exploitation is blamed for the massive 265% spike in British children trafficking referrals compared to 2016.’

PhilSwagielka · 22/08/2020 23:24

Where are they being trafficked to? Does it say?

Mistigri · 22/08/2020 23:25

why on earth would Trump be the poster boy for an anti-trafficking movement?

It's insane, especially given widespread child abuse and trafficking that is being done by US immigration authorities with Trump's active approval.

But those are brown kids so they probably don't count.

Stripesgalore · 22/08/2020 23:25

The link to Anti-Slavery international:

www.antislavery.org/uk-failure-trafficking-prevention/

Stripesgalore · 22/08/2020 23:32

Phil, there is a link to the report from the anti slavery international website.

The report defines trafficking children as moving a child into a situation of exploitation. They say that moving a child within the U.K. or moving a child across borders legally still constitutes trafficking under legal definitions.

BilboBercow · 22/08/2020 23:42

I joined the group after op posted today because I wanted to understand their intentions.

Their group rules request no Pizzagate or other Qannon posts which I thought was positive.

Someone made an angry post about a local page stating there were Qannon people at the rally today, along with a picture of a protester holding up a Pizzagate placard. Lots of group members brigading the local page with Qannon type posts saying Pizzagate is real. Members of the group responding to that post with Tom Hanks allegations, apparently he posts messages in code on his social media. Stating lots of people today United to show their displeasure with Bill Gates and Hillary Clinton.

These people are insane.

BilboBercow · 22/08/2020 23:50

stripes no one is minimising or denying child trafficking. The issue is that the people involved with these groups actually have no knowledge or real understanding of child trafficking and are spreading misinformation and right wing propoganda.

It's a UK group and they're circulating American anti face covering propoganda, pro Trump propaganda, they believe Hilary Clinton was running an underground paedophile ring from the basement of a Washington pizza place and that Tom Hanks is a paedo who moved to Greece to escape prosecution.

Oh and Bill Gates is trying to microchip us. These are not people we need to be throwing our lot in with to fight trafficking, they're idiots brainwashed by a Russian misinformation campaign.

Stripesgalore · 22/08/2020 23:59

‘Children represent the lowest risk category for human trafficking.’

I would consider that to be minimising child trafficking, as children have a greater risk than adults of being trafficked.

I’m not suggesting anyone throws their lot in with QAnon, given that they are a a terrorist threat who have shot people and abducted children themselves. What a bizarre allegation to make.

PercyKirke · 23/08/2020 01:18

Sorry OP I don't think it's a blackout. I think it's a small scale march that's not particularly newsworthy. I work near Trafalgar Square and if I'm working Saturdays there are frequently marches and meetings that get no mention on the news - local or national.

DioneTheDiabolist · 23/08/2020 02:48

No way could a legally produced product compete in price with one produced by slaves.

You mean like sugar? Or maybe tobacco? The production of cannabis on a large scale can be done with minimal intervention. Add to that lawful sale of goods and "Value Added" products and organising cannabis becomes very lucrative indeed. No need for slaves.

Chocforthewin · 23/08/2020 02:54

It most certainly was for 'children's lives matter'
This was Nottingham. The media won't discuss it as it doesn't fit their narrative as per. There wasn't an arrest an Nottingham protests either. Before anyone blames it on right wing fractions!

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boltzmannbrains · 23/08/2020 02:55

daily numbers of missing children

there's an awful lot of people who 'suddenly' go 'missing' and are never found.

What missing children? The vast, vast majority of children who are reported missing are found within 24 hours. The remainder are nearly all either runaway teens, or children taken by a parent or occasionally a grandparent as part of a custody dispute. Child abduction by a stranger is extremely rare, and is practically always committed by lone wolf predators, not for the purposes of trafficking.

Traffickers pretty much exclusively target people who are very vulnerable who either won’t be missed (ie runaways, homeless, in care), or who are groomed into “consenting” (in parenthesis as it’s coerced consent), not physically kidnapped. Often the parents are groomed too.

A typical trafficking case might involve the trafficker going to an impoverished family in Bangladesh or Albania, offering a girl a high paying job in London so she can send money back to her family, telling her parents it’s an amazing opportunity for her. The girl voluntarily gets on a plane with her parents’ blessing. When she arrives in London she’s told she owes £x thousand pounds, and that she needs to work for free for a few months (maybe in a nail salon, maybe in domestic service, maybe in a brothel) to pay off the debt and after that she’ll be free. She’s told if she refuses she’ll be handed over to the authorities who will either deport her or put her in a detainment centre, that her parents will have to pay her debt. So she agrees, but it’s coerced consent. But the debt only gets bigger so she’s trapped. She isn’t locked up in a dungeon, she’s free to go out, but she’s controlled by fear and lack of options. She’s never reported “missing“ because her parents think she’s working a great new job in London.

That is trafficking/sex trafficking: grooming and exploitation of vulnerable people. No one is being snatched off the streets, and no one is being chained up in basements. The girl sitting next to you on a bus might be a trafficking victim.

Virginia Giuffre is a classic case of child sex trafficking/grooming, and the amount of victim blaming she’s had to face from people going, “well she wasn’t chained up, she was being taken to parties, why didn’t she just leave?!” is a perfect example of how ignorance hurts trafficking victims.

The only genuine “missing” children who may have been trafficked are unaccompanied refugee and migrant children, and that includes the many migrant children forcibly separated from their parents due to Trump’s inhumane treatment and incarceration of illegal immigrants. Those children are incredibly vulnerable to predators because there’s no system monitoring them properly.

If people really care about helping child trafficking victims they should focus on campaigns to end global poverty, or programmes that support young people in impoverished countries to access education and training. Or programmes in this country aimed at helping vulnerable youth eg. teenage girls in care. And support measures aimed at combatting modern slavery, such as recognising the signs that someone may have been trafficked (like the girls in your nail salon) and reporting it.

The posts on p2 by Gancanny and p4 by canigooutyet are also excellent.

boltzmannbrains · 23/08/2020 02:58

On the media/protest front, I’ve participated in a few protests in London protesting to cuts in Carers Allowance. One protest involved an actual street theatre with performers being set up right in front of Downing Street (the police were v helpful about it). Those protests were far larger than the images above show, but also got almost no press coverage.

There are just lots and lots of protests.

FuckwitMcGee · 23/08/2020 03:16

This is conspiracy theory bullshit, OP which detracts from the seriousness of the very real problem.

Tellmetruth4 · 23/08/2020 03:21

Human trafficking and modern slavery are a very real thing and after the Boohoo scandal, awareness around nail salons, car washes we know it’s a big thing.

Children are also being abused daily and we need to be wise to adults who target kids often in plain sight. Nobody apart from criminals are against saving children.

However, these ‘protesters’ have no interest in saving children from anything. In fact from some of the photos posted, it appears as though many in attendance are probably on various ‘registers’, are out on license, known to the authorities and banned from local pubs and football grounds. They are certainly not the types I would want anywhere near my children let alone help ‘save them’.

I’m glad the OP with their faux innocence about spreading awareness was called out quick time. Anyone whose Facebook feed is filled with this QAnon nonsense is deeply suspect and trying to suck parents in to their craziness via this site is out of order. Luckily they are usually super dim and easy to spot.

Sisiwawa · 23/08/2020 04:16

Chocforthewin,
I have to agree that those people in those photos look very worrying. All white middle aged, right wing, thug looking. Faces covered, and not for Covid-19 purposes. Not a woman or child in sight, strange huh?
Stooping to all time lows attaching themselves to this important issue.
Am stereotyping here but i bet a lot of them are 'estranged' from their own kids...?!?

Tellmetruth4 · 23/08/2020 05:33

They look like the type of people who when they come near, you automatically pull your children towards you and hold them more tightly. There are definitely a few ‘register’ dwellers and people with restraining orders amongst this crowd. ‘Saving children’ my arse.

CustardSpaghetti · 23/08/2020 05:42

A previous poster mentioned how marches and protests happen all the time in our cities. It's true and people no longer notice. They all blur into one.

Perhaps if any group wanted to raise awareness they should consider doing it where they actually would get some attention. Maybe the next lot of marchers, whatever their cause, should march through villages and smaller towns. It would be more unusual and therefore attract more interest.

SarahBellam · 23/08/2020 05:57

This was one of those far right conspiracy theorist marches dressed to as ‘raising awareness’ but was really just good old fashioned racism. This was a really small March - there were only a few thousand people at it. Marches happen all the time. If MSM showed them all, that’s all they’d do.

lasttimeround · 23/08/2020 07:50

Oh yawn more conspiracy alt right bullshit. Little tip if you want to raise awareness on trafficking dont use a name linked to an anti-gay movement, dont use slogans that denigrate a race equality movement. And actually when it comes to trafficking the real stats on child trafficking show it's a v small subsection of trafficking. That's why the %age increase looks alarming (but isnt) cos it's off a v small base. If only people were numerate....instead of sheep.
Also experts agree the most useful thing that can be done to prevent trafficking is have legal routes for migration and grant leave to remain to victims. Funny how these right wing anti trafficking movements never suggest these pro immigration solutions.

Stripesgalore · 23/08/2020 07:56

‘And actually when it comes to trafficking the real stats on child trafficking show it's a v small subsection of trafficking.‘

Do you want to provide a source for these ‘real’ stats, as anti slavery international do not agree with that.

It’s very disturbing that people want to use this group as a reason to deny the prevalence of child trafficking.

canigooutyet · 23/08/2020 08:23

@lasttimeround

Oh yawn more conspiracy alt right bullshit. Little tip if you want to raise awareness on trafficking dont use a name linked to an anti-gay movement, dont use slogans that denigrate a race equality movement. And actually when it comes to trafficking the real stats on child trafficking show it's a v small subsection of trafficking. That's why the %age increase looks alarming (but isnt) cos it's off a v small base. If only people were numerate....instead of sheep. Also experts agree the most useful thing that can be done to prevent trafficking is have legal routes for migration and grant leave to remain to victims. Funny how these right wing anti trafficking movements never suggest these pro immigration solutions.
THere is a lot more that can be done to prevent trafficking, THere is more that could be done to give protection to those who are rescued, instead the system loses them even from children's homes, and criminalises victims.

Do you have any links to backup your claims? Many posters have come along and said hey it's not that bad but no back up.

You might think children trafficked is a minor thing, personally I think 2,360 reported cases in the UK is more than enough.
I think that 10.1 million children who had been trafficked by 2018 is far too many,

bee222 · 23/08/2020 08:24

@canigooutyet

I wouldn't call 10.1 million children a few would you?

www.ecpat.org.uk/child-trafficking-statistics published in 2018

Stats from Ecpat have been debunked over and over again. They are not a reliable resource.
Stripesgalore · 23/08/2020 08:28

UNICEF use the same source as EPCAT for their figures, so are you arguing that UNICEF info has also been debunked? By whom?

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