Media blackout on marches happening today

[orangesnapples]

Is it me or is it not very strange that 1000s of people currently marching though our major cities today and no media coverage?

They are marching for our children's rights, to awareness to trafficking etc

Does the lack of coverage just play into the hands of those that accuse the media of being part of the problem.

They are currently peacefully marching to bring awareness because there sadly is hardly any awareness of trafficking, most people have the completely strep typical idea of what trafficking is, that is all some world wide elite club.
But the sad truth it looks very different, and is probably happening in a home near you right now.

So why no coverage. My SM is flooded with 1000s I f people walking the streets of Liverpool, London etc.

I don't want to believe there is darkness in control of our media and what we see etc but honestly I can't think for the life of me why this isn't being covered.

Do you have any sources? @bee222

I think the decline in air travel during lockdown is to blame for the rise in conspiracy theory beliefs.

With fewer flights, governments can't spread mind control chemicals so widely through aircraft "chemtrails". So the sHeePLe are finally waking up!!!

@Stripesgalore

UNICEF use the same source as EPCAT for their figures, so are you arguing that UNICEF info has also been debunked? By whom?

So do Interpol along with around 90 countries.

@Chocforthewin

It most certainly was for 'children's lives matter' This was Nottingham. The media won't discuss it as it doesn't fit their narrative as per. There wasn't an arrest an Nottingham protests either. Before anyone blames it on right wing fractions!

Interestingly those pictures seem to be stills taken from this footage posted by British Lives Matter. It’s worth watching the whole thing rather than the edited highlights there. twitter.com/brlmatter/status/1297137908852363264?s=21

@canigooutyet

Do you have any sources? *@bee222*

I don’t have the time to do your homework for you, but they have, on more than one occasion, been accused of using false data and misrepresenting stats.

I’m bowing out of this now because I won’t have time to reply. I just ask people to look critically past claims they see floating about on Facebook.

I asked a guy who was at that march to link me to some anti trafficking orgs or suggest an MP to write to.

He posted a video about a secret Illuminati ritual at the London Olympics which was somehow linked to coronavirus and kept going on about the ‘global elite’.

I don’t know what to do.

‘I don’t have the time to do your homework for you, but they have, on more than one occasion, been accused of using false data and misrepresenting stats.’

If you are going to claim that the figures linked to have been debunked, the onus is on you to explain why.

Given that the source is the ILO, and these are the figures the UN uses as the basis for its protocols on trafficking, I am going to keep on believing the UN rather than a random poster who claims they are false.

It seems that there are two conspiracy theory groups here -QAnon and child trafficking and exploitation deniers, and both groups bizarrely believe the UN are some kind of debunked false organisation.

Of course you are bowing out now @Bee222, you came made a false claim, got called out and asked for backup that doesn't exist. It is a part of your homework to substantiate claims just like I have done throughout the whole thread.

I have asked a few times for people to backup their claims. I'm still waiting.

Oh don't @bobbiester They don't need any encouragement!

FWIW if you want to stop trafficking I'd carefully examine your local farm/nail salon/car wash. They are the usual suspects employing trafficked people - adults- usually from former eastern bloc European countries.

"right wing fractions!"
they've infiltrated mathematics now

Don't be silly @madroid if they had infiltrated mathematics they would understand the concept of numbers, never mind having to evidence their working outs. 🤣

If you look up trafficking by type of victim any dataset will show you children are a minority of overall victims in developed countries - around 30% of all cases often less. Its in sub saharan africa and parts of the Caribbean and central America that that trend is reversed. Dome of what you see there is family and cultural practices around child labour. (Not saying that's a good thing but its not what these campaigns are on about which is child sex slaves, so it pays to be sensitive about the practices these stats are tracking and that they lump together often quite differentthjngs) The figure is rising at a high rate. That percentage increase is so large because of the low base (basic maths). Most experts think the rise is to do with changes in law enforcement so we are getting better at identifying these cases and recording them in developed countries, and not that there are more children being sexually exploited. So the rise is actually a good thing.
None of this is to say child trafficking is good or not worrying in any of its forms. But rather that in thus campaign it's a red herring for spreading alt right conspiracy claims. The solutions to the egregious forms are more generous immigration policies or more generous development aid. Oddly neither is mentioned by the campaigns this post is highlighting I expect. And no I'm not going to surf through alt right swill to check that's accurate. I've read enough of their nonsense.
Just type in trafficking stats by type and you'll see that's accurate.
It should be said that trafficking data like all kinds of law enforcement data is hard to interpret cos it's hard to know whether changes in the data reflect changes in the phenomenon itself or changes in law enforcement practice.

Type in child trafficking where? Where are you getting these stats from?

The UN stats are that the number of children in pornography and prostitution is 1.8 million.

At least one of the organisations that collate numbers of child trafficking incidents relies on random members of the public phoning in with their concerns and that these reports aren't checked or verified. Since the Qanon people pigging backing on to Save the Children, many such organisations have had an explosion of false reporting.

Also the numbers of missing children includes children who go missing for a few hours and multiple reports of the same incident. Most missing children are found and returned to their families or care givers within hours or days.

Anything to do with Qanon should be treated with the contempt it deserves. It's a worrying trend that it's becoming more mainstream.

In google you search for "trafficking statistics by type " that will give you statistics trafficking statistics by type. Ie type of trafficking. If that doesn't break it down by adults and children try trafficking statistics by type of victim adult child. You can check the reliability of any reputable set of statistics by an explanatory note they should have on their stats if they are reputable. Many they big data sets should come up first on Google cos it's a fairly decent search engine. Thus is actually not hard to grasp

The U.K. government 2019 report on modern slavery in Britain claims that 45% of victims are children.

I fell down the rabbit hole of these conspiracy nuts the other day and just sat laughing at what they think is happening. This is all about the new world order and us all being sheep for wearing masks and about the elite consuming human blood to make them more powerful while sex trafficking hundreds of thousands of children in America and the world.

Sex trafficking does occur, so does modern slavery, there are many good charities doing work in this field (The Salvation Army being one with a dedicated slavery and trafficking unit). This group you have linked to are just white extremists who think shouting racist slurs and being neanderthals will get there conspiracy theories heard. It won't, they are just nuts.

Okay, but I have looked at the stats from the ILO, UNICEF and the government. None confirm what you are claiming. So what is your source?

Really? Places where I have read figures are those that have been proven, and the estimated figures are higher because of a number of factors not just random members of the public.

Personally I ignore whatever group, eventually they get bored by the lack of people caring and move on.

The figures I have also been using are all pre-covid. This years figures for a lot of things will be skewed because of Covid.

@lasttimeround funnily enough when I type in trafficking stats, I find things like
The United Kingdom is the most prominent country of origin for trafficked children – a total of 2,360 reported cases – followed by Vietnam (427), Eritrea (274), Albania (256), Sudan (220), Romania (109), Afghanistan (91), Nigeria (58), Iran (50), Ethiopia (47) and Iraq (46).

Oops forgot to add, those are from the Home Office 2019.

And since when is telling others to google your claims the done thing?

If you want to convince me you aren't spouting utter bollocks then post the links. Shouldn't be that hard considering there is supposed to loads of evidence out there. Go and search your history. 10 seconds job done.

So these are the stats from the body that oversees the trafficking convention. The un body that initially defined the offence of trafficking in international law.
www.unodc.org/unodc/en/human-trafficking/global-report-on-trafficking-in-persons.html
Here worldwide you get around 20% child victims. It varies considerably by region
The modern slavery laws are a uk law in the same field. I couldn't find the 45% figure you mention but so cant track down why theres suddenly such a big variance from the stats I usually see in thus area. But that's higher than it usually is. Again I would say the difficulty with these stats generally is you cant tell what's chanfes in law enforcement and what's a rise in prevalence. The former is generally a good thing, the latter a bad thing.
I used to work on trafficking research and I am aware that theres been arguments about the variance in recording adult cases under the NRM (which is where the UK data comes from) It might be that I'm not sure. But would note the majority of modern slavery cases in the modern slavery report 2019 that I could find was 69% labour exploitation. Whys that not focused on?
When I worked on trafficking I spent some time comparing the different datasets and concluded the unodc was the best one, but that was for what I needed the data for. Doesnt mean it's the best dataset for every purpose necessarily. And it's a few years ago things change.

I'm rather surprised at the kotion of the UK being the most prominent country of origin for trafficking victims. Seems unlikely. Usually the uk is a destination country for trafficking. Are you sure that you dont have that backwards with the uk as the destination for victims from the countries listed?

Here are the UK 2019 figures by type. Each individual victim has to be verified by either the National Crime Agency Modern Slavery Human Trafficking Unit or the Home Office, so no, QAnon can’t phone a help line and invent non existent victims to change official figures.

Labour exploitation including forced criminality. Adults: 2003, children: 1987.

Sexual Exploitation. Adults: 1289, children: 632.

Other. Adults: 150. Children: 404.

Domestic servitude. Adults: 413. Children: 96.

Organ harvesting: Adults: 2. Children: 4.