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Media blackout on marches happening today

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orangesnapples · 22/08/2020 15:23

Is it me or is it not very strange that 1000s of people currently marching though our major cities today and no media coverage?

They are marching for our children's rights, to awareness to trafficking etc

Does the lack of coverage just play into the hands of those that accuse the media of being part of the problem.

They are currently peacefully marching to bring awareness because there sadly is hardly any awareness of trafficking, most people have the completely strep typical idea of what trafficking is, that is all some world wide elite club.
But the sad truth it looks very different, and is probably happening in a home near you right now.

So why no coverage. My SM is flooded with 1000s I f people walking the streets of Liverpool, London etc.

I don't want to believe there is darkness in control of our media and what we see etc but honestly I can't think for the life of me why this isn't being covered.

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user1468867871 · 29/08/2020 16:28

Ten of thousands in Trafalgar Square and marching on Downing Street.

Berlin today tens of thousands doing a 5 day sit in. The German govt banned large demonstrations this week because they were worried.

All normal people, teachers, doctors, scientists, shop workers etc all demonstrating about the government lies about Covid around the world. Barely a mention on MSM but go see on Twitter and FB.

Gancanny · 29/08/2020 16:28

Which loes about Covid exactly?

Gancanny · 29/08/2020 16:29

*lies

You can't state lies without elaborating on what those lies are.

longwayoff · 29/08/2020 17:17

User, its the lead story on Mail online. Can't get more MS Than that.

knittingaddict · 29/08/2020 17:34

I very much doubt that user1468867871 can articulate what these lies are and why they would lie. You'll probably get another link to something tangential to this thread.

I don't do DM links, but not surprised that they might cover this. It sounds just up their street.

knittingaddict · 29/08/2020 17:50

Oh and looking at other sources, some of the demonstrators had Qanon banners and some were anti-vaxxers and the whole thing organised by a group that communicates via encrypted messaging. What a surprise.

CoffeeandCroissant · 29/08/2020 18:08

All normal people, teachers, doctors, scientists, shop workers etc all demonstrating about the government lies about Covid around the world.

Some are of them are literally f**n Nazis!
Not 'normal people' at all. Stop trying to legitimise the far right.

"Massive QAnon turn-out at the anti-COVID measures demo in Berlin, Germany. Many flags / signs hailing @realDonaldTrump
including in the colors of ultra right “Reichsbürger“ who want the German Reich back. Some told us they believe Donald Trump is an angel."
mobile.twitter.com/fpleitgenCNN/status/1299745386115018752

CoffeeandCroissant · 29/08/2020 18:16

@knittingaddict

Some photos of the QAnon banners /placards in London here:
mobile.twitter.com/Shayan86/status/1299732724119465986

user1468867871 · 29/08/2020 18:24

They all look like average Joes to me. All walks of life, United by Dissatisfaction of government.

MSM not reporting true numbers and definitely trying to make out they are weird conspiracy theorists. What do you think? Take a look and decide for yourself.

twitter.com/jonnymarshall3/status/1299664614393810945?s=21

Elsewyre · 29/08/2020 18:34

Seems a brilliant idea in the middle of a pandemic.

Perhaps the media don't think it's worththe airtime

Elsewyre · 29/08/2020 18:35

@knittingaddict

Oh and looking at other sources, some of the demonstrators had Qanon banners and some were anti-vaxxers and the whole thing organised by a group that communicates via encrypted messaging. What a surprise.
Lol telegram and WhatsApp vs "encrypted messaging!!! And other scary sounding words!"
CoffeeandCroissant · 29/08/2020 18:39

British Union of Fascists flag in Trafalgar Square today: mobile.twitter.com/ScienceNelson/status/1299729211385675782

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CoffeeandCroissant · 29/08/2020 18:51

trying to make out they are weird conspiracy theorists

The speakers are anti vaxxers, conspiracy theorists and anti Semitic (David Icke).
barthsnotes.com/2020/08/22/covid-19-anti-vaxxers-and-conspiracy-theorists-to-gather-at-trafalgar-square/

www.thejc.com/news/uk/icke-antisemitic-conspiracies-viewed-over-30-million-times-new-research-shows-1.499368

ilovesooty · 29/08/2020 18:54

I can't believe any people facing professional, let alone a doctor or nurse would be stupid enough to get involved in something like this.

Eng123 · 29/08/2020 18:56

I was in london today and did not see any demo. Saw some ExR looneys around yesterday. Generally nothing worth noting.

knittingaddict · 29/08/2020 19:02

Lol telegram and WhatsApp vs "encrypted messaging!!! And other scary sounding words!"

Fair enough, I got that from the BBC, but it's a group happy to demonstrate along side anti-vaxxers, Trump supporters and people calling CV a hoax. They appear to be a German group and I can't find much about them, but they get my award for stupid just by having a mass demonstration with no social distancing or masks.

knittingaddict · 29/08/2020 19:09

I did find this though:

www.archyworldys.com/lateral-thinking-711-thomas-berthold-wants-to-continue-do-not-regret-anything/

So one of the high profile supporters of Lateral thinking 711 (the group behind the Berlin protests) says his favourite specialist book is one written by a notorious anti-Semite. Birds of a feather and all that.

longwayoff · 29/08/2020 20:34

Who was it who said "if you repeat a lie often enough, it will become the truth?" Goebbels maybe? Hitler's propagandist. He had a good grasp of how stupid we can be. Anti vaxxers and their mates are dangerous, poisonous idiots seduced by lies, choosing their own truths. Alternative truths. Thanks Trump.

PhilSwagielka · 29/08/2020 21:19

@user1468867871

Ten of thousands in Trafalgar Square and marching on Downing Street.

Berlin today tens of thousands doing a 5 day sit in. The German govt banned large demonstrations this week because they were worried.

All normal people, teachers, doctors, scientists, shop workers etc all demonstrating about the government lies about Covid around the world. Barely a mention on MSM but go see on Twitter and FB.

What lies?
PhilSwagielka · 29/08/2020 21:22

[quote user1468867871]They all look like average Joes to me. All walks of life, United by Dissatisfaction of government.

MSM not reporting true numbers and definitely trying to make out they are weird conspiracy theorists. What do you think? Take a look and decide for yourself.

twitter.com/jonnymarshall3/status/1299664614393810945?s=21[/quote]
I'm an average Joe, but according to you lot I'm somehow responsible for coronavirus with my magical Jew powers. I mean, you've got actual fascists hanging out there, the people who got their arses kicked at Cable Street back in the day. You've got some really lovely friends in your movement.

It's hilarious, if depressing, how we're in 2020 and we're still being blamed for a pandemic. It happened with the plague and it's happening now.

Komacho · 30/08/2020 17:33

[quote user1468867871]They all look like average Joes to me. All walks of life, United by Dissatisfaction of government.

MSM not reporting true numbers and definitely trying to make out they are weird conspiracy theorists. What do you think? Take a look and decide for yourself.

twitter.com/jonnymarshall3/status/1299664614393810945?s=21[/quote]
Neo-Nazis aren't aliens, most of them do look like 'average Joes'.

PhilSwagielka · 30/08/2020 20:01

They've got another protest coming up in Liverpool. Fucking yay.

hoodathunkit · 01/09/2020 09:49

She received compensation because she took her case to tribunal and they found in her favour. An article about anti- semitism in the HR department towards Williams doesn’t in any way support your beliefs on Williams, on which I have no particular opinion.

I would like to reply to your post re Judy Williams. This is an extremely important issue as it is an example of how a mental health professional can exploit an extremely vulnerable person in order to promote their own agenda.

This is an issue about which I have considerable bitter personal experience. For too long my concerns have been dismissed as deluded, however with thousands of Qanon, Pizzagate and other SRA conspiraloons marching and protesting all around the world and with exploited vulnerable people being used as assets by these sinister networks the time has come to expose this hideous pantomime for what it is.

Re Judy Williams and Pamela Edwards the timeline is as follows:

Judy Williams fosters Pamela Edwards when Pamela is a vulnerable child who has suffered multiple serious childhood traumas and extreme childhood neglect. Pamela Edwards also has a learning disability and had been diagnosed with autism and schizophrenia. The extreme childhood neglect has been documented by social services. It is difficult to imagine a more vulnerable foster child.

By 1999 Judy Williams is no longer Pamela’s foster mother but is her full-time carer. At some point in 1999 Williams comes to believe that Pamela has been, up until that point, misdiagnosed and that the correct diagnosis for her is in fact multiple personality disorder / dissociative identity disorder.

By 2000 Judy Williams is working with the Clinic for Dissociative Studies as a psychotherapist but also developing care packages for people with dissociative identity disorder (formerly multiple personality disorder) and other dissociative disorders. At this time she is still a full-time carer for Pamela Edwards.

By March 2003 Judy Williams and Pamela Edwards are taking part in a documentary film Being Pamela, which endorses the controversial diagnosis of MPD/DID.

The Official Solicitor, who represents those who cannot represent themselves, argued that Pamela lacked the capacity to give permission to take part in filming and that it amounted to a breach of privacy under Article 8 of the Human Rights Act. St Helen's Council, which provides carers for Pamela Edwards, also expressed serious concerns.

As an aside, my concerns relate to the dual roles performed by Judy Williams in relation to Pamela Edwards. In my understanding, and the understanding of most rational, ethical persons, it is not ethical or appropriate for a mental health professional to act as a foster-parent and carer for an extremely vulnerable person whilst at the same time working for an organisation that provides an expensive care package for that same vulnerable person. This situation is unethical and an example of a serious conflict of interests, especially given the significant finances involved, the dual roles, the controversial diagnosis of DID and the long history of serious abuses against vulnerable persons by mental health professionals involved in promoting SRA conspiracy theories and the associated diagnoses of MPD/DID.

back to the timeline…..

The concerns of the council and the Official Solicitor were set aside by Mr Justice Mumby who, without giving his reasons, gave greater weight to freedom of expression.

The programme was eventually finished and broadcast and depicted the day to day delivery of Pamela Edwards’s care package which was delivered by Judy Williams’s and a team from the Clinic for Dissociative Studies at the then cost of £500,000 per year. Judy Williams and Pamela Edwards appeared on camera throughout and Valerie Sinason, the founder and then director of the Clinic for Dissociative Studies is referred to as “Valerie” but does not appear in the film.

While the film reported uncritically about the diagnosis of DID some viewers and reviewers in the mainstream press expressed concerns about whether Pamela was getting better or worse as a result of the care package. The relationship between Pamela and Judy Williams seems highly dysfunctional to me and Pamela seems to have taken on some of the more belligerent and controlling elements of Williams’s character in the form of an “alter”.

At some point (the Manchester Evening News does not specify a time) Judy Williams was accused of acting inappropriately to a vulnerable adult known as ‘P’.

She was accused of unnecessarily giving the woman medicine, inappropriately restraining her and using inappropriate language to colleagues. Ms Williams from Chorlton, is not employed to care for P but has known her for more than 20 years and says she considers her to be ‘like a daughter’.

Was this woman “P” Pamela Edwards? Given that Pamela was Williams’s foster child and then, upon adulthood, Williams became her full-time carer this seems highly likely.

On 29th December 2010 The Manchester Evening News reported that Judy Williams has “won” an £80,000 settlement after she was suspended for 2 years then sacked from her post at the Royal Manchester Children’s Hospital. From the MEN article:

"Child psychotherapist Judy Williams was suspended for two years then sacked from Royal Manchester Children’s Hospital.
She was reinstated 18 months later, but has been on leave for six months after hospital bosses failed to find a position for her.

They have now apologised, on the eve of an employment tribunal, and paid £50,000 compensation and £30,000 back pay.”

Of course, just because Hospital paid the settlement it does not mean that they accept that they are in the wrong or that the concerns against Judy Williams are without merit. The settlement was paid on the eve of the tribunal, as so often happens.

I would invite you to watch this video about multiple personality disorder in which at 7.45 approx Richard Kluft of the ISSTD commented about a $2 million settlement in a case of psychiatric malpractice resulting in a vulnerable patient being brainwashed into believing she had multiple personality disorder “Settlement is not an admission of guilt. Settling is a way of ending a process in a way that’s agreeable to the various parties”.

If Kluft is making this claim about his peers and associates at the ISSTD and similar organisation that promote conspiracies about SRA and DID can it not be equally true for St Helen’s Health Authority in relation to their settlement with Judy Williams?

evidential links

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1491414/Being-Pamela...-and-Sandra-Susan-Andrew-and-Margaret.html

www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/80k-and-an-apology-for-sacked-therapist-905993

<a class="break-all" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20140516215533/withinmind.co.uk/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">web.archive.org/web/20140516215533/withinmind.co.uk/