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Head recommending wearing masks in school

359 replies

rainyinscotland · 21/08/2020 18:05

So DC has been back at school full time for a bit (Scotland). Secondary school. All pupils in and no masks. The Headteacher has now written to parents that it's not possible to socially distance, so he/she is recommending that pupils and teachers wear masks. Recommending, not requiring.

YABU - the Head was wrong to do that.
YANBU - the Head was right to do that.

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StaffAssociationRepresentative · 22/08/2020 14:10

And that includes the recommends that he ‘needs to step down’

After all a school is much more than Covid

echt · 22/08/2020 14:10

Again, I didn't suggest that anyone should be fired

Yes you did:

The point I was making was they allow someone who can problem solve and find solutions to come in. Obviously if they just resign and the person that replaces them can only only see barriers to a solution, then that won't solve anything

PoppySeedSaid · 22/08/2020 14:11

@hedgehogger1

So in effect suggesting a mass firing. Perhaps you need to think before you type? As I say to students, stand up to bullies and if you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all.
Precisely the reason why your post where you called me a 'troll' and a ' nasty piece of work' was reported to MN.
PoppySeedSaid · 22/08/2020 14:13

@echt

Again, I didn't suggest that anyone should be fired

Yes you did:

The point I was making was they allow someone who can problem solve and find solutions to come in. Obviously if they just resign and the person that replaces them can only only see barriers to a solution, then that won't solve anything

Feel free to quote the post where I said that.
echt · 22/08/2020 14:14

I've just cut and pasted it. Your post. You find it.

hedgehogger1 · 22/08/2020 14:16

Perhaps stop acting that way then. A troll is "someone who intentionally upsets people on the internet by posting inflammatory and digressive content". Who is why I've reported you as such

PoppySeedSaid · 22/08/2020 14:17

@echt

I've just cut and pasted it. Your post. You find it.
I'm telling you to quote a post where I suggest a firing. The problem is you can't because I didn't.

You've made your feeling clear about me in the post that MN deleted because of the personal attack but I don't know why you are so eager to claim I've said something I didn't?

What do you possibly gain by that?

echt · 22/08/2020 14:18

PoppySeedSaid is, ahem, a very new arrival on MN.

Possibly to be awarded:

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InMySpareTime · 22/08/2020 14:32

Schools could have a load of disposable face masks for students when they forget theirs, available to buy at cost using the student's dinner money account.
I'm sure some enterprising textiles students will start making fabric face coverings using school fabrics and selling them to their peers.

StaffAssociationRepresentative · 22/08/2020 14:32

Okay she said he could stand down.

Lots of diversionary tactics away from the op.

I think this head should be commended for taking such a stance. Clearly cares for his school community as a whole. (Unlike our government)

Piggywaspushed · 22/08/2020 14:33

God, has anyone read the article? The mask come off for lessons when each child is provided a named clear visor! They aren't wearing a mask all day.

Piggywaspushed · 22/08/2020 14:34

Sorry, was talking about another school. Duh. Wipes egg off face.

As you were.

StaffAssociationRepresentative · 22/08/2020 14:34

@InMySpareTime

Schools could have a load of disposable face masks for students when they forget theirs, available to buy at cost using the student's dinner money account. I'm sure some enterprising textiles students will start making fabric face coverings using school fabrics and selling them to their peers.
Actually that is a good idea!

The textile classes could actually make masks to give to those who don’t have them.

echt · 22/08/2020 14:34

Schools could have a load of disposable face masks for students when they forget theirs, available to buy at cost using the student's dinner money account.I'm sure some enterprising textiles students will start making fabric face coverings using school fabrics and selling them to their peers

This ^^

PoppySeedSaid · 22/08/2020 14:40

@StaffAssociationRepresentative

Okay she said he could stand down.

Lots of diversionary tactics away from the op.

I think this head should be commended for taking such a stance. Clearly cares for his school community as a whole. (Unlike our government)

I did say they could stand down. Thank you for acknowledging that.

Disappointed at the dig about diversionary tactics but it MN and not everyone has the same understanding.

And you all seem to have ignored that my original post said :

Of course there is nothing stopping anyone wearing a mask at any time. It's just common sense.

I hope this shows people that just because you think someone disagrees with you, it doesn't help to put words into their mouth or go on the attack. The reality it there is often a common ground that we can all see. And more importantly, why get upset over a comment on a mum forum?

echt · 22/08/2020 14:41
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noblegiraffe · 22/08/2020 14:45

The staff can social distance

Not from the kids they can’t, Clav

The head that can get secondary kids to social distance can then turn her hand to solving the Riemann Hypothesis and forming a Grand Unified Theory.

StaffAssociationRepresentative · 22/08/2020 14:46

@PoppySeedSaid - let’s move away from the playground and get back on topic.

@InMySpareTime great idea. I will email my HoD textiles - it may already be on the list. I think HoD Design Technology may even have some left over visors from the hundreds he made at the beginning of lockdown

MrsHamlet · 22/08/2020 14:52

In my classroom, I cannot maintain a 2m distance from the front row.
They will be sitting shoulder to shoulder every lesson. There is no 2m, or even 1m, distance between students in classrooms.
I am in 4 year group "bubbles" - most of my colleagues will be in 5 or more.
I'd be very pleased if this head was my head.

ilovesooty · 22/08/2020 15:14

@Tumbleweed101

Personally I don’t want mask wearing in school to be compulsory but wouldn’t mind it for certain lessons - if a teacher was vulnerable, for example.

I hate wearing masks and can’t even imagine how horrible it would be for mine to wear them from getting on the bus at 7.45am til they get home at 4.30pm. That’s a long time and I don’t believe for a moment any of the children will wear them properly all day because they will get hot and want to breathe. Also I wouldn’t be able to afford the number of masks required for two children daily. The cloth ones are expensive and the disposable ones add to pollution.

I work in early years and I’m constantly coughed on, climbed on, deal with bodily fluids and yet none of us have been poorly yet and we worked through lockdown too with high risk key worker children. I don’t feel the risk is massively high in a class where the teacher can socially distance enough not to be climbed on!

Cloth ones don't have to be so expensive they're unaffordable. I wouldn't want to be teaching your non masked child at close quarters knowing that you aren't being protected at work. You might not have been ill but you and your children could be asymptomatic carriers.
Ickabog · 22/08/2020 15:15

[quote hopefulhalf]www.thelocal.fr/20200813/france-reveals-its-plan-for-the-return-to-school-in-september[/quote]
Not surprising, I expect we'll see similar here for 11+ before too long.

Aragog · 22/08/2020 15:25

The staff can social distance

It's almost impossible to SD from primary aged children in a class of 30.

It must be totally impossible in a secondary school corridor.

ineedaholidaynow · 22/08/2020 15:32

Many classrooms don't have the space at the front for a teacher to socially distance 2m from the front row.

WhyNotMe40 · 22/08/2020 16:18

I've got a brilliant innovative solution to socially distance students in classrooms built for 20 that currently have 34 (like my yr 8 class last year).

I have invented the two tier desk! Grin Essentially like bunk beds but chair with attached small side desk like in the USA, and a ladder up to a small platform with the same above!
Bingo! Child above will have her face 1m+ away from below child's face, and then you can space out the desks better!

Grin
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