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This government don’t give a shit about schools or your kids

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noblegiraffe · 20/08/2020 19:11

AIBU to think that the government have fucked up literally everything to do with schools and education this year?

Evidence:

Chaotic school closures and keyworker provision (couldn’t decide what a keyworker was until the very last minute)

Forgot that kids on free school meals would go hungry so heads had to go round delivering sandwiches while the DfE put together an utterly shambolic voucher system that crashed and was pretty unusable.

Issued no guidelines for minimum education requirements during lockdown leading to vastly different provision between schools. Even Ofsted said they couldn’t judge schools on lockdown provision as there were no standards to judge them against.

Had to be shamed into u-turning on their insistence that free school meal children should go hungry during the holidays by a celebrity footballer (well done Marcus Rashford you absolute star)

Fed stories to friendly newspapers about schools re-opening in May to judge public reaction, leading to anxiety and uncertainty among parents and school staff

Announced that primary schools would open to all pupils before the summer holidays, an announcement that had surely not been run past anyone who worked in schools given that under the government’s own guidelines for schools for bubbles of 15 and no rotas, this would require double the classrooms and double the teachers available. Then backtracked on this a few weeks later (getting the friendly press to blame the unions) again creating uncertainty, anxiety and disappointment for parents and pupils.

Ignored education select committee questions about Ofqual’s algorithm when they raised issues in July

Lied and said they didn’t have early access to the data from Ofqual’s algorithm

When Scotland u-turned on their use of an algorithm, instead of making a considered response, came out with the bizarre notion that kids could use their mock grades - a suggestion that had obviously never been put past anyone who worked in schools. Again.

Took 5 days to realise that their mock suggestion created more problems than it solved, then u-turned on awarding CAGs creating problems for Y12 next year.

Fed stories to the friendly press that the unions are blocking the re-opening of schools in September so if it goes tits-up, they can blame them again (unions are asking for a ‘plan B’ in the case of local lockdowns, and for working conditions comparable to those of all other workers, no strike action has been proposed or balloted for so they couldn’t block re-opening even if they wanted to)

Blamed Ofqual for the algorithm they were told to create (prioritising statistics over teacher assessment)

Branded a teacher payrise that was agreed back in January a ‘reward for work during lockdown’, knowing this was incorrect, and deliberately fuelling outrage that they themselves had caused by having no minimum requirements for education in lockdown leading to vastly different provision.

Not funding this payrise so teachers probably won’t get it as otherwise it will lead to redundancies for other staff members due to having to fund it from already dire staffing budgets.

Issued guidelines that said that schools should reopen with increased cleaning schedules, increased handwashing, hand sanitising but providing no extra funding for this.

Instructed heads not to take any measures that would improve safety but would require more space (e.g. use of village halls) or not have pupils in full time (rotas, staggered timetables).

Didn’t realise that kids wouldn’t be able to get to school on public transport under current social distancing requirements as there aren’t enough buses until three weeks before schools reopened, and decided to throw £40 million to LAs to sort this (what? buy more buses?) so that they could blame the LAs when it inevitably goes wrong and kids can’t get to school.

And these are the people currently running a campaign to convince parents that they are capable of re-opening schools safely.

YABU: I have full confidence in the government and am perfectly happy with how things have gone so far

YANBU: It is mind-boggling how incompetent they have been, and how little thought they have given to the education of the nation’s children.

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StaffAssociationRepresentative · 24/08/2020 00:30

Boris is too busy with violin lessons 😂

KittCat · 24/08/2020 03:52

🎻🎻🎻🤦

itsgettingweird · 24/08/2020 06:14

@Peregrina

Gove has already had a turn, and is in part responsible for the shit show.
Plus my money is on Cummings and Gove going for PM partnership.

They did it in education before - destroyed it.
Cummings is helping Boris destroy it a bit more.

We are in divide.

Next they'll conquer with some stupid vote 'edxit' and restructure.

My conspiracy theory for the day Grin

Peregrina · 24/08/2020 07:20

I think Cummings will be more than happy to see Boris thrown under the proverbial bus.

NeurotrashWarrior · 24/08/2020 07:23

Did anyone see the guardian article yesterday about how Tory mps voted Boris in "for a bit of fun?"

Peregrina · 24/08/2020 07:41

I didn't see that - how completely pathetic on the one hand, and verging on criminally irresponsible on the other. Governing the country should be a job to be taken seriously. For all her faults, that is something which May tried to do.

Dohorseseatapples · 24/08/2020 08:23

Did anyone see the guardian article yesterday about how Tory mps voted Boris in "for a bit of fun?"

Can you link it neuro? I can’t find it!

NeurotrashWarrior · 24/08/2020 08:25

"During the contest to select a new Tory leader last summer, many local Conservatives decided to vote for Boris Johnson over Jeremy Hunt – not because they saw him as more competent but because they thought he would be more fun."

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/aug/23/uk-gathering-covid-19-autumn-storm-boris-johnson-britain-second-wave-coronavirus-economic-chaos?CMP=ShareiOSAppp_Other

NeurotrashWarrior · 24/08/2020 08:26

Actually, the way JH reacted early on in the crisis made me feel he would have been much better at all this.

StealthPolarBear · 24/08/2020 08:26

Yabu op for missing "and teachers" from your title
Everythibg else you write is acurate

NeurotrashWarrior · 24/08/2020 08:30

Observer, technically.

Conservative backbench MPs despair, asking why the centralised operation at No 10, which ignores them and is run by Dominic Cummings, is so prone to mistakes.

"You simply cannot go on making so many basic errors and expect people to support you,” said one former Tory minister. “People will forgive many things. They will forgive us not getting everything right on the virus. But they will not forgive serial incompetence, particularly in times like this.”

NeurotrashWarrior · 24/08/2020 08:31

The article notes that the right wing press (the mail) rarely turn on a Tory government, but are.

Peregrina · 24/08/2020 08:58

It's not so much turning on the Tory party, as turning on Johnson. The Tories won't hesitate to get rid of him as soon as they detect he's a liability. It's all very well saying that he has until 2024 - despite the Fixed Term Parliament act we have had three elections since 2015, so it's not as set in stone as he might wish.

StaffAssociationRepresentative · 24/08/2020 09:08

Edxit and Brexit .... time for someone new

TheABC · 24/08/2020 09:09

@peregrina, if I remember correctly, the Tory party need around 54 MPs or 15% of the party to declare a leadership challenge. If they did not budge after the Cummings saga, I am not sure what will do it.

I have always thought Johnson unfit to serve, but it does not surprise me he is in power. I don't hold a high opinion of the Tories in general after they admitted they could not even be bothered to read key bits of legislation (like the withdrawal agreement), before voting.

StaffAssociationRepresentative · 24/08/2020 09:21

Will not forget or forgive serial incompetence, particularly in times like this.

Big Gav is a joke tweeting about his holiday. How about some kind words to GCSE/BTEC students for the result chaos or to universities for mucking up the admissions? No, he has to go on about his holiday which he chose to take during the results period.

Incompetent is his middle name

Iamnotthe1 · 24/08/2020 09:43

[quote TheABC]@peregrina, if I remember correctly, the Tory party need around 54 MPs or 15% of the party to declare a leadership challenge. If they did not budge after the Cummings saga, I am not sure what will do it.

I have always thought Johnson unfit to serve, but it does not surprise me he is in power. I don't hold a high opinion of the Tories in general after they admitted they could not even be bothered to read key bits of legislation (like the withdrawal agreement), before voting.[/quote]
They won't issue a leadership challenge yet: it's not politically smart. They need Boris to take responsibility for the Covid mistakes and for Brexit. Once those are done, they will remove him ahead of the next election in order to improve their chances whilst not having their new leader weighted down with the blame. The polling data shows that the Tories are still electable but that Boris isn't.

sunseekin · 24/08/2020 10:16

Yanbu. And now Boris poses for some pictures with his serious face on and think we will all trust him. He’s a joke. What an awful time to have to suffer him as PM.

Heffalooomia · 24/08/2020 11:13

Governing the country should be a job to be taken seriously
not taking it seriously is a way of sending a message that we are just lumpen peasants who don't matter... the philandering fun and jolly japes of toryboy are much more important and interesting than the real lives and struggles of the people :(

itsgettingweird · 24/08/2020 11:36

I think most of them have forgotten this isn't the Eton school common room anymore.

This isn't about war if words and who have read the thesaurus better or researched the best Latin phrase.

This isn't a game of semantics.

This is the lives or real people where what you say and do matters. It has consequences.

And long term ones.

ChavvySexPond · 24/08/2020 11:41

There's been no funding provided for ventilating classrooms has there? Or hiring other spaces to facilitate social distancing? Or lay on bubble specific transport? Or even cover extra staffing costs.

So that tells you how much of a shit they give.

NeurotrashWarrior · 24/08/2020 11:43

The window that was promised to me has not yet materialised...

Heffalooomia · 24/08/2020 11:45

I feel as if Boris is worse than Trump, trump just isn't very bright, yes he is corrupt but he doesn't have the smarts to be any better than he is
but Boris had a good education and is intelligent .... Isn't he?🤷🏼‍♀️

Peregrina · 24/08/2020 11:54

We probably all know people a bit like Boris, bright but lazy and have never had to try too hard.

latticechaos · 24/08/2020 12:12

@Heffalooomia

I feel as if Boris is worse than Trump, trump just isn't very bright, yes he is corrupt but he doesn't have the smarts to be any better than he is but Boris had a good education and is intelligent .... Isn't he?🤷🏼‍♀️
Clearly Johnson has a good degree etc. But equally clearly it seems to me he is lacking in the ability to engage with or understand complex real life issues.

He also appears devoid of empathy, which is a massive failing in a leader.