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This government don’t give a shit about schools or your kids

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noblegiraffe · 20/08/2020 19:11

AIBU to think that the government have fucked up literally everything to do with schools and education this year?

Evidence:

Chaotic school closures and keyworker provision (couldn’t decide what a keyworker was until the very last minute)

Forgot that kids on free school meals would go hungry so heads had to go round delivering sandwiches while the DfE put together an utterly shambolic voucher system that crashed and was pretty unusable.

Issued no guidelines for minimum education requirements during lockdown leading to vastly different provision between schools. Even Ofsted said they couldn’t judge schools on lockdown provision as there were no standards to judge them against.

Had to be shamed into u-turning on their insistence that free school meal children should go hungry during the holidays by a celebrity footballer (well done Marcus Rashford you absolute star)

Fed stories to friendly newspapers about schools re-opening in May to judge public reaction, leading to anxiety and uncertainty among parents and school staff

Announced that primary schools would open to all pupils before the summer holidays, an announcement that had surely not been run past anyone who worked in schools given that under the government’s own guidelines for schools for bubbles of 15 and no rotas, this would require double the classrooms and double the teachers available. Then backtracked on this a few weeks later (getting the friendly press to blame the unions) again creating uncertainty, anxiety and disappointment for parents and pupils.

Ignored education select committee questions about Ofqual’s algorithm when they raised issues in July

Lied and said they didn’t have early access to the data from Ofqual’s algorithm

When Scotland u-turned on their use of an algorithm, instead of making a considered response, came out with the bizarre notion that kids could use their mock grades - a suggestion that had obviously never been put past anyone who worked in schools. Again.

Took 5 days to realise that their mock suggestion created more problems than it solved, then u-turned on awarding CAGs creating problems for Y12 next year.

Fed stories to the friendly press that the unions are blocking the re-opening of schools in September so if it goes tits-up, they can blame them again (unions are asking for a ‘plan B’ in the case of local lockdowns, and for working conditions comparable to those of all other workers, no strike action has been proposed or balloted for so they couldn’t block re-opening even if they wanted to)

Blamed Ofqual for the algorithm they were told to create (prioritising statistics over teacher assessment)

Branded a teacher payrise that was agreed back in January a ‘reward for work during lockdown’, knowing this was incorrect, and deliberately fuelling outrage that they themselves had caused by having no minimum requirements for education in lockdown leading to vastly different provision.

Not funding this payrise so teachers probably won’t get it as otherwise it will lead to redundancies for other staff members due to having to fund it from already dire staffing budgets.

Issued guidelines that said that schools should reopen with increased cleaning schedules, increased handwashing, hand sanitising but providing no extra funding for this.

Instructed heads not to take any measures that would improve safety but would require more space (e.g. use of village halls) or not have pupils in full time (rotas, staggered timetables).

Didn’t realise that kids wouldn’t be able to get to school on public transport under current social distancing requirements as there aren’t enough buses until three weeks before schools reopened, and decided to throw £40 million to LAs to sort this (what? buy more buses?) so that they could blame the LAs when it inevitably goes wrong and kids can’t get to school.

And these are the people currently running a campaign to convince parents that they are capable of re-opening schools safely.

YABU: I have full confidence in the government and am perfectly happy with how things have gone so far

YANBU: It is mind-boggling how incompetent they have been, and how little thought they have given to the education of the nation’s children.

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noblegiraffe · 21/08/2020 20:29

At least Gav’s wife was a teacher.

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SmileEachDay · 21/08/2020 20:29

I give you a CAG of A for this comment with a pass level of 100%*

Actually we’ve decided to go with the algorithm after all.

Soz.

itsgettingweird · 21/08/2020 20:30

Iam shush. Don't give them ideas for lords sake!

itsgettingweird · 21/08/2020 20:31

@SmileEachDay

I give you a CAG of A for this comment with a pass level of 100%*

Actually we’ve decided to go with the algorithm after all.

Soz.

Sorry noble. Turns out you got a U Wink
askmehowiknow · 21/08/2020 20:31

@noblegiraffe

At least Gav’s wife was a teacher.
Was as in divorced? He's not resigned has he? I thought not.

If his wife is a teacher he'll be the most sympathetic Secratary for education for a long time!! Can't believe this hasn't been exploited!!!

Clavinova · 21/08/2020 20:33

clav can scour The Lady for us

Another anecdote - I was given an annual subscription to The Lady as a birthday gift one year - a surprise present from an elderly relative. Grin

Piggywaspushed · 21/08/2020 20:33

Was as in is an ex teacher, not ex wife.

Not sure ex teacher runs as well.

cantkeepawayforever · 21/08/2020 20:33

At this stage I honestly don't care. We've had 6 months to come up with ideas.

I'm fundamentally against masks SD and blended learning.

Anything else I'd be fine with.

So you mean you are against SD (and the reduced numbers that would make this possible, the only option being working from home for part of the time) and masks? So you are against the measures that every other workplace has (because they are the best risk mitigation strategies) but you are OK with anything else [which you rightly haven't specified, because by taking away the mitigation strategies used everywhere else in society, you aren't left with much].

OK.

Piggywaspushed · 21/08/2020 20:34

Brilliant clav! Grin

SmileEachDay · 21/08/2020 20:35

Another anecdote - I was given an annual subscription to The Lady as a birthday gift one year - a surprise present from an elderly relative

😂😂😂

cantkeepawayforever · 21/08/2020 20:35

Agree. Had no one heard of coronavirus?

So you agree that schools will close - because of coronavirus - but you are against any effective mitigation procedures that will reduce infections DESPITE the fact that this obviously goes against your aim of equal education for all pupils??

askmehowiknow · 21/08/2020 20:35

@Piggywaspushed

Was as in is an ex teacher, not ex wife.

Not sure ex teacher runs as well.

Shame!
Clutterbugsmum · 21/08/2020 20:36

What if that email contained a link to Oak Academy lessons for the week, the government’s own online school? I didn't know that but it explains why it was so shit.

noblegiraffe · 21/08/2020 20:37

@Clavinova

clav can scour The Lady for us

Another anecdote - I was given an annual subscription to The Lady as a birthday gift one year - a surprise present from an elderly relative. Grin

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Appuskidu · 21/08/2020 20:38

@cantkeepawayforever

At this stage I honestly don't care. We've had 6 months to come up with ideas.

I'm fundamentally against masks SD and blended learning.

Anything else I'd be fine with.

So you mean you are against SD (and the reduced numbers that would make this possible, the only option being working from home for part of the time) and masks? So you are against the measures that every other workplace has (because they are the best risk mitigation strategies) but you are OK with anything else [which you rightly haven't specified, because by taking away the mitigation strategies used everywhere else in society, you aren't left with much].

OK.

Exactly-what’s left?!

Wash your hands?

cantkeepawayforever · 21/08/2020 20:38

(Sorry, my mistake - equal access to education for all pupils - including the ones who are in schools that shut again due to outbreaks which could have been prevented by masks and social distancing.....)

noblegiraffe · 21/08/2020 20:39

@Piggywaspushed

Was as in is an ex teacher, not ex wife.

Not sure ex teacher runs as well.

Although if she’d been on Mumsnet when he was doing his kiss and tell about his affair with the woman at his fireplace company, she’d be an ex wife too.
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askmehowiknow · 21/08/2020 20:41

@cantkeepawayforever

At this stage I honestly don't care. We've had 6 months to come up with ideas.

I'm fundamentally against masks SD and blended learning.

Anything else I'd be fine with.

So you mean you are against SD (and the reduced numbers that would make this possible, the only option being working from home for part of the time) and masks? So you are against the measures that every other workplace has (because they are the best risk mitigation strategies) but you are OK with anything else [which you rightly haven't specified, because by taking away the mitigation strategies used everywhere else in society, you aren't left with much].

OK.

Yes

200000 people need to wear a mask to prevent one person contacting CV. Yet they have such huge detriments to learning/communication/social skills. Not to mention people with disabilities. And the fact they need to be worn correctly. Not to mention they are awful to wear.

I'm really really against them Grin

SD. Just not practical. Not going to happen

Blended learning is fantastic. For the rich kids. With parents who care. Go them! Bring do socially aware! It's sadly not so effective for a lot of other kids though..,

However I'm just a pandemic denier' apparently! So don't mind me

noblegiraffe · 21/08/2020 20:42

Wash your hands?

Aaaand we’re back to March. That went well.

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askmehowiknow · 21/08/2020 20:43

@noblegiraffe I've just googled the (only) woman who is prepared to snog Michael Gove lol

askmehowiknow · 21/08/2020 20:46

I mean I presume you're taking the piss out of her being 'mrs Gove' right?

Danglingmod · 21/08/2020 20:46

I still think Noble's ds with his Beano subscription is our most likely inside source.

noblegiraffe · 21/08/2020 20:50

Do we see Gavin Williamson as Roger the Dodger or is he more a Calamity James?

The Cabinet are the Numskulls.

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stressed2021 · 21/08/2020 20:54

I am one of those who voted YABU and this is because of the fact that whilst I feel that the Government could have done better for kids in some respects, such as developing a fairer algorithm for grades this year, their hands were tied in other respects. Whilst I am worried about my DD who is going into year 11 next year, I think that she has had adequate schooling online (without many actual live online lessons I may add) this year so is well placed going into next year. For those saying that there should have been summer schooling, this would have only been for some pupils, not all. For all years bar those sitting exams next year, there should be time to catch up on missed learning. For those in exam years, grade boundaries will be adjusted so that similar proportions of children get each grade compared to previous years. Therefore the title of this thread should not have implied that every single child has been failed by this Government. I think people have forgotten that a Labour Government would have been under Jeremy Corbyn, and I feel that him and his cabinet would have ruined the economy in many other ways.

itsgettingweird · 21/08/2020 20:57

App and song happy birthday. Don't under play it Wink

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