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This government don’t give a shit about schools or your kids

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noblegiraffe · 20/08/2020 19:11

AIBU to think that the government have fucked up literally everything to do with schools and education this year?

Evidence:

Chaotic school closures and keyworker provision (couldn’t decide what a keyworker was until the very last minute)

Forgot that kids on free school meals would go hungry so heads had to go round delivering sandwiches while the DfE put together an utterly shambolic voucher system that crashed and was pretty unusable.

Issued no guidelines for minimum education requirements during lockdown leading to vastly different provision between schools. Even Ofsted said they couldn’t judge schools on lockdown provision as there were no standards to judge them against.

Had to be shamed into u-turning on their insistence that free school meal children should go hungry during the holidays by a celebrity footballer (well done Marcus Rashford you absolute star)

Fed stories to friendly newspapers about schools re-opening in May to judge public reaction, leading to anxiety and uncertainty among parents and school staff

Announced that primary schools would open to all pupils before the summer holidays, an announcement that had surely not been run past anyone who worked in schools given that under the government’s own guidelines for schools for bubbles of 15 and no rotas, this would require double the classrooms and double the teachers available. Then backtracked on this a few weeks later (getting the friendly press to blame the unions) again creating uncertainty, anxiety and disappointment for parents and pupils.

Ignored education select committee questions about Ofqual’s algorithm when they raised issues in July

Lied and said they didn’t have early access to the data from Ofqual’s algorithm

When Scotland u-turned on their use of an algorithm, instead of making a considered response, came out with the bizarre notion that kids could use their mock grades - a suggestion that had obviously never been put past anyone who worked in schools. Again.

Took 5 days to realise that their mock suggestion created more problems than it solved, then u-turned on awarding CAGs creating problems for Y12 next year.

Fed stories to the friendly press that the unions are blocking the re-opening of schools in September so if it goes tits-up, they can blame them again (unions are asking for a ‘plan B’ in the case of local lockdowns, and for working conditions comparable to those of all other workers, no strike action has been proposed or balloted for so they couldn’t block re-opening even if they wanted to)

Blamed Ofqual for the algorithm they were told to create (prioritising statistics over teacher assessment)

Branded a teacher payrise that was agreed back in January a ‘reward for work during lockdown’, knowing this was incorrect, and deliberately fuelling outrage that they themselves had caused by having no minimum requirements for education in lockdown leading to vastly different provision.

Not funding this payrise so teachers probably won’t get it as otherwise it will lead to redundancies for other staff members due to having to fund it from already dire staffing budgets.

Issued guidelines that said that schools should reopen with increased cleaning schedules, increased handwashing, hand sanitising but providing no extra funding for this.

Instructed heads not to take any measures that would improve safety but would require more space (e.g. use of village halls) or not have pupils in full time (rotas, staggered timetables).

Didn’t realise that kids wouldn’t be able to get to school on public transport under current social distancing requirements as there aren’t enough buses until three weeks before schools reopened, and decided to throw £40 million to LAs to sort this (what? buy more buses?) so that they could blame the LAs when it inevitably goes wrong and kids can’t get to school.

And these are the people currently running a campaign to convince parents that they are capable of re-opening schools safely.

YABU: I have full confidence in the government and am perfectly happy with how things have gone so far

YANBU: It is mind-boggling how incompetent they have been, and how little thought they have given to the education of the nation’s children.

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Piggywaspushed · 21/08/2020 13:45

I don't actually drink clav but thanks for the tip.

FrippEnos · 21/08/2020 13:48

Clavinova

I also wonder how many children have done the
'I've done it'
and it never gets checked by the parent.

Or my personal favourite on chasing up work during lockdown.

'but I've already handed it in but II don't know to which teacher'

Danglingmod · 21/08/2020 13:51

We had children themselves complaining that they'd done all the work and were bored and could we set some more when they hadn't submitted a single piece Grin.

Iwantacookie · 21/08/2020 13:53

I picked my year 10s laptop up the day they broke up in july. What good is that when since march shes had to share to do school work with her siblings.

itsgettingweird · 21/08/2020 13:53

@Piggywaspushed

We do have a problem though in general because when we do get a state educated , non Oxbridge educated education minister, he proves to be all kinds of incompetent we never imagined...
Agree.
noblegiraffe · 21/08/2020 14:02

when we do get a state educated , non Oxbridge educated education minister, he proves to be all kinds of incompetent we never imagined...

Needs to be remembered that that is a ‘this government‘ feature not a state-educated feature. A supply issue.

Like saying “I wanted a woman to do the briefing and then I got Priti Patel saying they’d done eleventy billion, one hundred, twenty thousand and three tests”.

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Peregrina · 21/08/2020 14:04

Well, we did have a Tory state educated Education Minister in Justine Greening, but she blotted her copybook by trying to work with teachers and not having good Brexit credentials so she had to go.

KenDodd · 21/08/2020 14:18

Boris Johnson is the very definition of fiddling whilst Rome burns.

History will not look any more kindly on him than on the oblivious, imperious, ineffectual and incompetent Nero.

I expect he will be pissing himself laughing at the chaos he's left behind, laughing all the way to the bank. And the off shore billionaire owned Tory press will say "oh look, an immigrant".

timetest · 21/08/2020 14:30

I do remember that within a month of being elected London’s mayor, BJ went off on holiday for a fortnight. This after promising to work day and night for the people of London. He has form for prioritising holidays over work. We can’t expect any better from him. He gives not a hoot for the current shit show.

Windyjuly · 21/08/2020 14:32

Our school is like a mafia set up. They don't ask for or covet parents opinions. We have to toe the line due to the heads... Feelings... She personally calls anyone who dares to pipe up and tells them they've are welcome to leave the school.

Guess what? They think their provision over lock down was amazing.
One maths books, an empty excersie book and a list of websites. Oh and each week a challenge.
Then 3 weeks before the end of term, we were flooded with work and told... There you go, that's the curriculum rounded up.

The school, two roads away, managed to provide a learning pack each week consisting of; comprehension, spelling, maths and idea for story.

One secondary got on line instantly. Ours couldn't and made up excuses that obviously other settings had dealt with.

If the gov had simply requested minimum provision. Spelling each week, something that would have forced the hand of the obstructive heads.

itsgettingweird · 21/08/2020 14:33

@timetest

I do remember that within a month of being elected London’s mayor, BJ went off on holiday for a fortnight. This after promising to work day and night for the people of London. He has form for prioritising holidays over work. We can’t expect any better from him. He gives not a hoot for the current shit show.
I think it's tactical.

If he says nothing he can't be held account for his words. They can't be used against him in years to come.

But his ministers can and are expendable to Cummings him and he hopes to give the opposition rope because polls show they are gaining popularity.

itsgettingweird · 21/08/2020 14:38

@Windyjuly

Our school is like a mafia set up. They don't ask for or covet parents opinions. We have to toe the line due to the heads... Feelings... She personally calls anyone who dares to pipe up and tells them they've are welcome to leave the school.

Guess what? They think their provision over lock down was amazing.
One maths books, an empty excersie book and a list of websites. Oh and each week a challenge.
Then 3 weeks before the end of term, we were flooded with work and told... There you go, that's the curriculum rounded up.

The school, two roads away, managed to provide a learning pack each week consisting of; comprehension, spelling, maths and idea for story.

One secondary got on line instantly. Ours couldn't and made up excuses that obviously other settings had dealt with.

If the gov had simply requested minimum provision. Spelling each week, something that would have forced the hand of the obstructive heads.

My ds went to academy who ran just like this.

He was strangled by another child twice and was being bullied. I arranged to meet HOY with DS to sort.

Normal eh?

I was called into room alone where sat 5 SLT and head told me to remove ds if I didn't trust them Shock

Kid pulled a knife on ds in class 2 weeks later. Angry

They tell everyone parents and students that they'll all get 9's and parents buy into it. Their actual 4+ pass rate in English and math has been 55% at highest the past 3 years .

They sell a hard line and anyone who doesn't toe it is bullied.

It's only the fact the female head was asked to jump before pushed and it's a male one now I know they are different schools!

Ds moved schools (to shut me up to a good out of catchment with transport Wink). But he still has friends there and even the students are wise to their tactics.

For me it saddens me as it's the students who miss out.

FlySheMust · 21/08/2020 16:27

@Clavinova

Your evidence for the one email a week comes entirely from MN.

Or so I thought - I met a real-life mum with exactly the same complaint a few weeks ago. A primary school I know well with a good reputation - I was surprised - perhaps they were relying on their middle-class catchment.

Of course you did. rolls eyes Of course your were rolls eyes some more

Fiction department of MN's library working well.

Clavinova · 21/08/2020 16:58

FlySheMust
Not fiction - I don't post many anecdotes.

noblegiraffe · 21/08/2020 17:01

No you don’t, Clav you normally post five million links and I’m a bit discombobulated that my OP was so comprehensive that you’ve no comeback!

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Clavinova · 21/08/2020 17:03

No you don’t, Clav you normally post five million links and I’m a bit discombobulated that my OP was so comprehensive that you’ve no comeback!

I've been busy!

Appuskidu · 21/08/2020 17:09

@noblegiraffe

No you don’t, Clav you normally post five million links and I’m a bit discombobulated that my OP was so comprehensive that you’ve no comeback!
Grin
MrsHerculePoirot · 21/08/2020 17:23

The issue with the disparity between schools remote provision though come from the government. There was no guidance for schools about what or how to provide, no support, no funding.

Each school had to make their own decisions - but whatever we did we couldn’t please anyone. A friend at another school had two emails within 5 minutes of each other - one complaining there was too much work and it was overwhelming and one complaining there wasn’t nearly enough and why weren’t they doing more.

At the beginning I felt that I was helpless to provide the level of support for my students I wanted to as I had to follow school policy. We did change this over time but our issue was such a large proportion of our students don’t have access to tech/wifi at home it was difficult to be manage. We were more concerned with providing food boxes for over 100 vulnerable families each week at one point.

Some schools did great, some not, some took longer to do things than others but we were all flailing in the dark tbh with zero guidance from above. The blame lies squarely with the government and not with individual teachers or schools.

itsgettingweird · 21/08/2020 17:48

@noblegiraffe

No you don’t, Clav you normally post five million links and I’m a bit discombobulated that my OP was so comprehensive that you’ve no comeback!
Grin
Heffalooomia · 21/08/2020 17:57

cupid stunts the lot of them:(

AhFiddledeedee · 21/08/2020 18:04

YANBU, I have no words for what an utter shambles this is. They are blaming anyone but themselves and getting away with it

Heffalooomia · 21/08/2020 18:17

and getting away with it
maybe it seems so but surely voters wont forgive this?

cuppycakey · 21/08/2020 18:20

To be fair to the Tories they don't care about the NHS, Social Care, or anything else that doesn't affect their ilk either Angry

KenDodd · 21/08/2020 18:21

@Clavinova

Why are you so loyal to the Tories? I don't understand why anyone would be so devoted to a political party, any political party.

FrippEnos · 21/08/2020 18:45

[quote KenDodd]**@Clavinova

Why are you so loyal to the Tories? I don't understand why anyone would be so devoted to a political party, any political party.[/quote]
I suspect for the same reason that you are so intractable about your political views.

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