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This government don’t give a shit about schools or your kids

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noblegiraffe · 20/08/2020 19:11

AIBU to think that the government have fucked up literally everything to do with schools and education this year?

Evidence:

Chaotic school closures and keyworker provision (couldn’t decide what a keyworker was until the very last minute)

Forgot that kids on free school meals would go hungry so heads had to go round delivering sandwiches while the DfE put together an utterly shambolic voucher system that crashed and was pretty unusable.

Issued no guidelines for minimum education requirements during lockdown leading to vastly different provision between schools. Even Ofsted said they couldn’t judge schools on lockdown provision as there were no standards to judge them against.

Had to be shamed into u-turning on their insistence that free school meal children should go hungry during the holidays by a celebrity footballer (well done Marcus Rashford you absolute star)

Fed stories to friendly newspapers about schools re-opening in May to judge public reaction, leading to anxiety and uncertainty among parents and school staff

Announced that primary schools would open to all pupils before the summer holidays, an announcement that had surely not been run past anyone who worked in schools given that under the government’s own guidelines for schools for bubbles of 15 and no rotas, this would require double the classrooms and double the teachers available. Then backtracked on this a few weeks later (getting the friendly press to blame the unions) again creating uncertainty, anxiety and disappointment for parents and pupils.

Ignored education select committee questions about Ofqual’s algorithm when they raised issues in July

Lied and said they didn’t have early access to the data from Ofqual’s algorithm

When Scotland u-turned on their use of an algorithm, instead of making a considered response, came out with the bizarre notion that kids could use their mock grades - a suggestion that had obviously never been put past anyone who worked in schools. Again.

Took 5 days to realise that their mock suggestion created more problems than it solved, then u-turned on awarding CAGs creating problems for Y12 next year.

Fed stories to the friendly press that the unions are blocking the re-opening of schools in September so if it goes tits-up, they can blame them again (unions are asking for a ‘plan B’ in the case of local lockdowns, and for working conditions comparable to those of all other workers, no strike action has been proposed or balloted for so they couldn’t block re-opening even if they wanted to)

Blamed Ofqual for the algorithm they were told to create (prioritising statistics over teacher assessment)

Branded a teacher payrise that was agreed back in January a ‘reward for work during lockdown’, knowing this was incorrect, and deliberately fuelling outrage that they themselves had caused by having no minimum requirements for education in lockdown leading to vastly different provision.

Not funding this payrise so teachers probably won’t get it as otherwise it will lead to redundancies for other staff members due to having to fund it from already dire staffing budgets.

Issued guidelines that said that schools should reopen with increased cleaning schedules, increased handwashing, hand sanitising but providing no extra funding for this.

Instructed heads not to take any measures that would improve safety but would require more space (e.g. use of village halls) or not have pupils in full time (rotas, staggered timetables).

Didn’t realise that kids wouldn’t be able to get to school on public transport under current social distancing requirements as there aren’t enough buses until three weeks before schools reopened, and decided to throw £40 million to LAs to sort this (what? buy more buses?) so that they could blame the LAs when it inevitably goes wrong and kids can’t get to school.

And these are the people currently running a campaign to convince parents that they are capable of re-opening schools safely.

YABU: I have full confidence in the government and am perfectly happy with how things have gone so far

YANBU: It is mind-boggling how incompetent they have been, and how little thought they have given to the education of the nation’s children.

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Clavinova · 21/08/2020 12:44

Schools and teachers providing anything were doing more than they were instructed to do.

Most teachers on this forum claim to have been working their socks off during lockdown. I wonder whether those teachers lounging in the garden had any pangs of guilt when they saw what other schools were providing for their pupils.

noblegiraffe · 21/08/2020 12:45

I could have been dancing the Charleston whilst reciting the complete works of William Shakespeare and HALF my kids wouldn’t have benefited.

Not completely sure of the educational benefit to the other half either, Smile, tbh. It sounds a bit progressive.

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Iamnotthe1 · 21/08/2020 12:46

@Clavinova

Schools and teachers providing anything were doing more than they were instructed to do.

Most teachers on this forum claim to have been working their socks off during lockdown. I wonder whether those teachers lounging in the garden had any pangs of guilt when they saw what other schools were providing for their pupils.

Please see my previous post regarding what many schools did during this time and what individuals could do if they were unhappy with the provision provided Smile
spanieleyes · 21/08/2020 12:46

No, what other schools were able to provide was down to them. We, and our parents,were happy with our provision and that's what matters.

noblegiraffe · 21/08/2020 12:47

I wonder whether those teachers lounging in the garden

Oh Clav this is beneath you. You are starting to sound a bit desperate... I expect your DH and pals aren’t happy with this thread?

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Titsywoo · 21/08/2020 12:50

I've voted Tory all my life but I NEVER will again after this year. Horrendous levels of incompetence and arrogance. I'm ashamed that I helped vote them back in.

Clavinova · 21/08/2020 12:55

Your evidence for the one email a week comes entirely from MN.

Or so I thought - I met a real-life mum with exactly the same complaint a few weeks ago. A primary school I know well with a good reputation - I was surprised - perhaps they were relying on their middle-class catchment.

Piggywaspushed · 21/08/2020 12:55

Boris Johnson is the very definition of fiddling whilst Rome burns.

History will not look any more kindly on him than on the oblivious, imperious, ineffectual and incompetent Nero.*

disclaimer! May not be entirely fair on Nero, who at least :When the Great Fire broke out, Nero was at his villa at Antium, some 35 miles from Rome. Though he immediately returned and began relief measures, people still didn’t trust him.*

SmileEachDay · 21/08/2020 12:55

Not completely sure of the educational benefit to the other half either, Smile, tbh. It sounds a bit progressive

Dammit, really?

Clav

Lounging in the garden? You forgot to mention the gin

Piggywaspushed · 21/08/2020 12:56

You have strange conversation in the street. I talk about the weather and the traffic.

Clavinova · 21/08/2020 13:03

You have strange conversation in the street. I talk about the weather and the traffic.

Young relation's birthday celebration in the garden - I was helping - the other child went to a different school.

Piggywaspushed · 21/08/2020 13:08

Likewise, weather and traffic....

noblegiraffe · 21/08/2020 13:13

clav I saw complaints on here about the “one email a week” that contained links to Oak. Do you think that the government sponsored online school is inadequate provision? I hear they even had an assembly given by the Duchess of Cambridge”. Shocking stuff.

As for feedback, my own DS’s Facebook class group complained about lack of feedback and useless teachers and went rather quiet when I pointed out where the feedback they hadn’t seen was being left on the system.

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Clavinova · 21/08/2020 13:17

Piggywaspushed
Likewise, weather and traffic...

Have a glass (or three) of Pimm's next time. Grin

FrippEnos · 21/08/2020 13:21

Clavinova

If we are going anecdotal.

We had several parents complain about lack of work, only for them to be provided with the logons that they already had and access to the work that their children had but were telling their parents didn't exist.

cantkeepawayforever · 21/08/2020 13:31

@FrippEnos

Clavinova

If we are going anecdotal.

We had several parents complain about lack of work, only for them to be provided with the logons that they already had and access to the work that their children had but were telling their parents didn't exist.

That exactly matches my experience. Particularly at the start of lockdown (we had home learning materials online from the Monday after school closed), I spent a lot of time getting in touch directly with parents to enquire about lack of work submitted. A significant minority had been told by their children that there was no work set, or had not read the instructions sent from school about how to access it.
spanieleyes · 21/08/2020 13:31

We had similar. One parent complained that she had had to find her own resources because we hadn't provided any. Just below her complaint on our class messaging system were all the links to that week's work, which were posted every Friday for the following week. When I pointed these out to her she said she didn't think those were for her son but were for everyone else! She expected an individual message with the work sent rather than a class one!

itsgettingweird · 21/08/2020 13:33

@noblegiraffe

No worries Fripp, the list is welcome to be added to, I just wasn’t sure enough about the 11th thing.

Aaaaand we are back on a prime number because I forgot

  1. rejected an offer of free help from the Royal Statistical Society with composing the ultimately doomed algorithm by insisting on a 5 year non-disclosure agreement that goes against the principles of the RSS. Given that the technical details of the algorithm have been released in excruciating detail, one wonders what exactly the government needed to be sure wouldn’t reach public ears before the next election.
I would imagine there's lots they want to hide beyond just this.

But this government seem to have a sadly successful way of retreating and allowing the media to whip a frenzy and see who shouts loudest on Twitter. They manage not to be held account for their actions by not being visible.

We can only hope more and more people wake up to it.

We certainly have a huge number of future voters who have had their eyes opened.

noblegiraffe · 21/08/2020 13:33

But we are back to defending teachers instead of putting the blame firmly where it belongs.

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itsgettingweird · 21/08/2020 13:40

But, in reality, the average working person just cannot actually afford to run for Parliament.

And therein lies the problem doesn't it?
The people who do get in have no real understanding on how everyday life runs.

These are people who don't have any appreciation of a state school reality.

And currently we don't even generally have just independently educated PMs. A large proportion of those on top went to top independents. One so far removed from general reality I don't think even if they wanted to understand and smithies they can actually begin to.

WendyHoused · 21/08/2020 13:41

Quite, OP. And it belongs on the shoulders of those incompetent ideologues in Downing Street and the Cabinet.

The whole thing's been a shower of shit.

MrsHerculePoirot · 21/08/2020 13:41

@FrippEnos

MrsHerculePoirot

The updates date was from a previous announcement.
The problem is that this government has managed to fuck up so much it may have either been buried or just binned.

But that’s the thing - I read all the transcripts and couldn’t find it? Who said it and when? One of the great mysteries of our time 🤣🤣🤣
FrippEnos · 21/08/2020 13:44

MrsHerculePoirot

Grin
Piggywaspushed · 21/08/2020 13:44

We do have a problem though in general because when we do get a state educated , non Oxbridge educated education minister, he proves to be all kinds of incompetent we never imagined...

motherrunner · 21/08/2020 13:45

@MrsHerculePoirot Ir we could have ‘1984’ actually playing out 🤔

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