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People coming into garden and driveway (new build estate)

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MyUserName77 · 17/08/2020 16:26

Hi
Moved into a new build at the end of last year.
The estate is 'open plan' in that there are no pavements as such, the driveways are at the same level as the roads (no kerbs) and the front gardens are open plan with no hedges/walls, leading straight out onto the road.
We live in a detached house on a corner, it is clear that the area in front of our house is a private driveway, the drives are all monoblocked in a different coloured brick from the road.
There is a detached house next door but because of the design of the estate, our front lawns join together with no division between them (ie it is a large expanse of grass which goes straight across the front of both of our houses), there is no dividing wall or trees etc.
We were told when we moved in that due to 'covenants' we would not be permitted to change the look of the front of the house by building walls or planting hedges etc, so as to keep the estate looking uniform (I suspect at least until work is finished on the estate which might be at least another 2 years). It is clear however, that they own the part in front of their house, and we own the part in front of our house. There is a lamp-post in the road that is exactly halfway between our houses so this is the kind of 'line' that we have always taken to be where our garden ends and theirs begins.
They are having work done in their back garden just now, and have their driveway full of landscaping equipment and materials which is fine, however, it means that the vans/trucks that the builders are using cant be parked in their driveway. For some reason, they have decided to park right in front of our front garden, not in front of the neighbours house? Which now means that the builders are trekking wheelbarrow loads of rubble etc across my front garden in order to be able to get to their truck to dump it! So saving the neighbours front lawn but wrecking mine. There's no reason they can't park 5 metres down in front of the neighbours garden. They've also left tools and equipment on my front lawn and are constantly walking across my front garden in front of my living room window, so much that I've had to shut my blinds.
I am on my own just now and don't feel comfortable going out to talk to them as there are about 6 of them, using very loud and bad language and they are pretty intimidating.
Would I be unreasonable to get my DH to park his car in front of our garden tomorrow instead of the driveway, so that they can't park there for the remainder of the garden work? After only 1 half day of work (in the rain) my front lawn has tracks of wheelbarrow and skid marks all over it. I think they think that because there is no real division of the lawns that they have the right to trek anywhere they want. I have spent a lot of time and effort making my garden look nice and I don't want it ruined.

The builders (not to mention other neighbours in the road) also used our own driveway to reverse into to turn their truck when they left. Other people do it all the time as we are on a kind of corner and they like to reverse into their own drives which means them driving into ours so that they can get turned. When our car is not parked there, they actually reverse right up into our driveway fully to the front of the house! It's very annoying as our driveway is getting a lot of traffic and I'm worried the monoblocking will show wear and tear much sooner than it should due to all the people using it. I don't know how to stop it as we are not allowed to 'change the estate' by putting up walls or gates etc. We have even had people drive across the end of our front lawn and ruin the grass as they have been so close when they are turning their cars.

Don't know what my AIBU is but I just wanted to rant. Wondering how I can get around restrictive covenants by somehow dividing the front lawns in a non permanant way. And keep people out of our driveway,
Anyone else on a stupid new build estate dealing with similar issues?

OP posts:
Palavah · 17/08/2020 16:30

Is it causing an access problem for you now or are you just concerned about the lawn.

I'd go and have a word with the neighbour about making good the lawn. The builders have a contract with your neighbour, not you.

42daystogo · 17/08/2020 16:34

As there is work going on you could temporarily put string and little sticks to cordon off your garden and as for the driveway what about one of those metal post things you can put up and down that people use for security purposes so their car doesn't get stolen, i imagine one neighbour wont notice and reverse into it damaging their car but then again they shouldnt be on your property!

Brunilde · 17/08/2020 16:37

I think you're unreasonable for watching them ruin your lawn. Just go and politely explain the situation and ask them not to. What is it exactly you think they would do?

CuriousaboutSamphire · 17/08/2020 16:38

Talk to your neighbour about them making good your lawn. They can't exactly deny it is happening, can they? Maybe that conversation could lead naturally into "And stop them fucking doing it"

Redhair23 · 17/08/2020 16:41

That would really annoy me- could you put plant pots out as a temporary boundary?
The neighbours should be preventing this in the first place.

sixlemons · 17/08/2020 16:41

@Palavah

Is it causing an access problem for you now or are you just concerned about the lawn.

I'd go and have a word with the neighbour about making good the lawn. The builders have a contract with your neighbour, not you.

Who the builders have a contract with is irrelevant.

They are damaging the OP's property and she is entitled to tell them to not trespass on her garden and to demand recompense for the damage already caused.

OP - go out there, take many, many photos of your garden, your drive, and go round each vehicle taking pics of the reg no and the company details. Make sure they see you doing it.

Then email the company with a select view of the photos, explaining what has gone on.

PotteringAlong · 17/08/2020 16:42

Surely you can plant whatever you like in your own garden? Just dig a flowerbed down the middle: are they really going to tell you to turf it again?

RedHelenB · 17/08/2020 16:42

Yabu, just go and tell.them they're traipsing over your lawn!!

LoveSummerNotIcecream · 17/08/2020 16:43

Just speak to the builders FFS.

jazzandh · 17/08/2020 16:43

get a moveable pot for the end of your driveway, that you can push to oe side when you drive on and off yourself, that will prevent people turning on it.

Put a temporary barrier up to prevent workman going across your area.

It would annoy most people, YANBU.

Bluntness100 · 17/08/2020 16:48

Who the builders have a contract with is irrelevant. They are damaging the OP's property and she is entitled to tell them to not trespass on her garden and to demand recompense for the damage already caused. OP - go out there, take many, many photos of your garden, your drive, and go round each vehicle taking pics of the reg no and the company details. Make sure they see you doing it. Then email the company with a select view of the photos, explaining what has gone on

Blimey, go full nuclear. 🤣

Op just go and speak to your neighbour and explain the mess is concerning you and ask them to stop the builders going over your lawn.

bigbluebus · 17/08/2020 16:48

I'd dig a flower bed down the middle between you and next door and stick some small plants in quickly. It is comon for builders to have a covenant forbidding walls or hedges but I doubt putting a few bedding plants in would be in breach of covenant. Don't know what the solution is to the turning/reversing over your drive though - unless you want to go for a locking bollard which stops the entering your drive.

2bazookas · 17/08/2020 16:58

I'd tell the builders myself. Just be polite, firm, smile.

If you can't, then ask the neighbours to deal with their builders.

Abraid2 · 17/08/2020 17:01

Another vote for large and heavy pots along the boundary.

Standrewsschool · 17/08/2020 17:04

You don’t own the parking spot outside your house, so the builders aren’t doing anything wrong there.

However, You do need to speak to your neighbour or the builders directly and request them not to walk across the lawn.

Namechange2020onceagain · 17/08/2020 17:05

Get some trellis planters.

People coming into garden and driveway (new build estate)
Waveysnail · 17/08/2020 17:06

Put some wooden planters down your boundary

Genevieva · 17/08/2020 17:06

You'll need to look at the exact wording of the covenant and get legal advice on whether it is enforceable. Separately have a word with the building company about the continual trespass onto your land being a nuisance.

Reluctantcavedweller · 17/08/2020 17:07

Second the large plant pots round your garden suggestion.

You can get a portable bollard with a key if you want to stop people turning on your driveway.

Lurkingforawhile · 17/08/2020 17:13

How very rude of them. I get annoyed when leafleters hop over our front border to next doors lawn. I would have been out there immediately they started ruining my lawn. If you don’t stand up for yourself no one else will. Once you start doing it, it gets easier. Just tell them not to do it, and the likelihood is they won’t anymore. But if you don’t do that, they’ll keep doing it.

SchadenfreudePersonified · 17/08/2020 17:14

Could you buy some large (heavy) pots to use to delineate your property line, and to prevent people cutting across your garden. these aren't built in like a fence, so you could argue you aren't breaking the covenant..

AgathaX · 17/08/2020 17:17

Firstly, either go and speak to the builders, or if they really do worry you, then go and speak to your neighbours. There is absolutely no reason not to do this.

Secondly, either put a flower bed in down the dividing line between your two front gardens, or get some planters and place them strategically, as others have suggested.

Nothing is going to change until you make some changes.

EL8888 · 17/08/2020 17:20

Yeah l would park your car outside your house tomorrow so the builders can’t do the same thing again. I would also speak to the neighbour about your lawn being made good

diplodocusinermine · 17/08/2020 17:23

That's why these open plan estates shouldn't be allowed - the old adage 'good fences make good neighbours' is so true.

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