To feel sorry for Scottish children?

[silver3]

Imagine having to go back to school in this suffocating heat in new blazers and school shoes. I know September can be warm too but, it seems to me, there’s nearly always a heat wave like this in mid-August. My DC have been sleeping in the basement on and off for weeks because their bedrooms are like saunas. Schools don’t always have air-conditioning. AIBU to think Nicola Sturgeon should just push the start of term back to Sept?

OP claims to originate from the med... Perhaps she means comino where it probably is the same from one side of the island to the other.

13 degrees in Perthshire this morning...

@Grilledaubergines

Find astonishing that yes the OP has made a fairly stupid statement, back up with a little more stupidity and the result is a Nasty pile on about southern Englanders. Find that more ignorant than the OP!

Absolutely.

Good morning everyone!

Just catching up . I see today it’s 24 in Edinburgh. There are a few things that mystify me about this thread -

• Usually, even the tiniest hint on MN that anyone thinks for one second that it’s “grim up north” is met with hundreds of outraged posts.

• Yet I, for one, actually don’t think it’s grim up north (despite the fact, every time I’ve been up north the weather has been grim, I just think it can’t be like that all the time).

• If I subscribed to “grim weather” stereotypes, do you think I would have moved to London from Spain and made a life here? No I would not.

• If people don’t want the “grim up north” myth to perpetrate, then stop perpetrating it! Why does every thread about “the north” end in a discussion of chips or, in this case, fried mars bars! As if everyone in Scotland is huddling round in anoraks in permanent miserable drizzle, heading to the manky chippy for greasy fried Mars Bars (!), then home in the grim fog to eat haggis As if!

• By the way, no I do not think a haggis is an actual animal fgs! Obviously though, as a vegetarian, a haggis is about the least appealing thing I can think of.

• I simply do not believe that people eat fried Mars Bars and Creme Eggs because this just too bleurrgh to even contemplate. That really is the grimmest of the grim. And I don’t believe people take things like pizzas into chip shops to be fried either - god help the health service if they do, that’s all I can say.

• Finally again, yes I would expect a temperature difference between London and Scotland, as a general rule. Like today - 35 here, mid 25 there - something like that. I would not usually expect it to be 35 here and 16 there though, as it was yesterday. That’s a massive difference.

-Again, I apologise to those who are apparently outraged by my underestimating of the weather gap. I confirm I am most certainly not calling for the Scottish govt to rethink entire policies or systems; nor implying that Scottish are dim or citing a system of widespread and national child neglect... I had just thought the extent of the heatwave was perhaps wider than it is and no, I hadn’t fully realised that Scotland has a much shorter summer (well not to this extent). Now I know. Thankyou.

• Paris is, in fact nearer to London than Edinburgh, so no idea why people are scoffing there. Edinburgh is apparently 402 miles, Paris 283 miles.

Heatwave and Scotland aren't two words you hear together very often😂

Paris is, in fact nearer to London than Edinburgh, so no idea why people are scoffing there. Edinburgh is apparently 402 miles, Paris 283 miles.

They are scoffing because you said Paris is probably equidistant south from London as Edinburgh is north

You dont need to take pizza into the chip shop to be fried as it is already on the menu!
Its a bit warm and wet where I am today. My kids go back to school tomorrow - not looking forward to getting them out of bed!

I've never had it but this is the fried pizza/pizza crunch on my local chip shop menu

On that menu, do they mean they fry the pizza in batter, like they do with the fishes?

On that menu, do they mean they fry the pizza in batter, like they do with the fishes?

Yup

Yes they coat in batter and deep fry it.

People were teasing you for the Paris comment because you said Paris was roughly the same distance from London as Glasgow, and used that to justify your position that you would expect the weather to be the same.

Look OP - it’s not the fact that you made a mistake about Scottish weather. It’s just that your comment was quite typical of a lot of annoying comments Scottish people hear all the time where people who live in England are baffled as to why some things are done differently here, despite it being a different country and having very different situations to manage. It’s annoying that you saw something was different about Scotland and immediately assumed we’ve got it wrong and ought to be brought in line with England for the sake of our kids, instead of seeing the difference and assuming there is a good reason behind it, or spending five minutes googling to see what the reason was. In the time it took you to write a thread suggesting that Scotland have got it wrong and our children should be pitied, you could have googled why our terms start when they do.

That’s why you got roasted. Not for being wrong, but for assuming you knew better than the people actually in charge of the country about a subject you clearly don’t really know much about

Soup - the point is, heatwaves, such as we have had in recent years, can mean that the normal north / south variations don’t always apply. For instance, it was warmer in London yesterday, than the south of France etc. I remember last summer it was in the mid 30s for weeks (I think) and we went to Crete and it felt cooler and much more pleasant because it was about 28 with a breeze.

Just catching up confused. I see today it’s 24 in Edinburgh. smile

Where are you getting your information from OP? It is most definitely not 24 in Edinburgh today, its misty, grey and wet and about 16c currently .

Laughing at the irony of all these people living in Scotland rushing to chastise the OP for being a London-centric Southerner.

And it turns out that she's Spanish.

Ha ha ha. Maybe you should check your own assumptions and prejudices.

Which weather forecast are you seeing, OP? My Met Office app says highs of 18 in Edinburgh today.

It's dull and dreich here, about a dozen or so miles outside Glasgow, but they're saying we'll get 20° later on, so we'll see!

Just catching up confused. I see today it’s 24 in Edinburgh.

That is rubbish.

I am in Edinburgh right now- temperature is 16 degrees and drizzle.

Edinburgh due a high of 19⁰C today according to BBC weather. Where I am we are supposed to have a high of 22⁰C. Looks a bit grey and we have a weather warning for thunder

I hope it does thunder, it's clammy as feck.

I don’t believe people take things like pizzas into chip shops to be fried either

They are on the menu, usually get a choice between onion, tomato or mushroom. Slightly deep pan so they soak in all the fat and go lovely and crispy.

Other pleasures in the Scottish chip are haggis, black pudding, sausage, smoked sausage, king rib all covered in batter and fried. Or a deep fried pie.

The most popular fish is haddock.

You've probably never heard of chip shop fritters. Slices of potato, battered and deep fried. Lovely in a roll with salt and vinegar (or salt and sauce if you are on the east coast).

god help the health service if they do

Yes not the healthiest of meals, and not to be consumed frequently, but bloody lovely from a good chip shop.

Warm and muggy here today, ground still wet. 18 degrees. Got ds out of bed at 8:30 this morning ready for his first day back on Thursday.

In Dundee. It’s not that hot at all here!

Ok so here is my mum in the phone to me from Spain-

“Hi, how are the kids and DH”

“All fine thanks, DH is cycling to Brighton and back today...”

“Ooh this is tooo dangerous for him on those roads and terrible traffic. He will dehydrate in the sun - he is 50... too old..,”

“No it’s fine mum, it’s only 22 today...,”

The way I do NOT react is like this -

“OH MY GOD, has this woman even seen the weather forecast before making such wholly unfounded statements about our own British weather. This is an outage! Typical of the Spanish - they think their weather is the same as ours. They think they know it all. Does she think DH is stupid? Is she saying I am neglecting him by letting him head out in the heat - without even checking her facts!! How dare she call for cycling on our British roads to be banned on the basis of her weather, She is trying to overthrow cyclists,. No, wait.., she is undermining the entire government!!! If there was ever a case for Brexit, this is it. I am outraged!!! I’m off to get tea and scones .... “

Again OP if you'd laughed at yourself here you'd have been a legend. Now your very straight faced explanations are feeling a bit defensive. Just laugh it off!

I thought this thread was going to be about kids going back to school when covid is still a threat.

OP you need to let it go. It was a daft (but entertaining) thread to start on AIBU. Chalk it up as a lesson learned and be glad you only said it on an internet forum, and not to someone in person!

As a PP said, just laugh it off. Getting defensive and doubling down on your (very wrong) assumption is not going to win anyone over.