Pc Andrews law - automatically give the killers of hero's 20 years with no early release

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Seems like a good idea to me, I hope his mum and wife manage to get it pushed through parlement.

Anyone that kills a police/nurse/army worker should get a guaranteed long term as these people put their lives on the risk for society and some of the sentences are a joke

Heroes?

The case is horrific and I feel so sad for his loved ones.

This idea is completely bonkers.

A 'hero's' life is worth the same as anyone else's.

Cases of first and second degree murder/manslaughter can be hard to prove. Yes, it's tragic. But detail by detail, the case was always going to be a tough one to call first degree murder.

Mandatory sentencing is a terrible idea.

It’s not worse to kill a police officer than it is to kill a homeless person.

I’m one of the healthcare workers who would describe themselves as ‘frontline’ if they were a total wanker.......not remotely interested in mandatory sentencing and I don’t agree that it’s worse to harm me than any other person.

It’s an absolutely fucking awful idea OP and I say that as someone who is sickened to the core by the case of PC Harper

I don't like the idea that my life is worth less than someone else's because I don't have kids.

Me either.
Also, I'm child-free by choice and happy with that; but what about people who desperately wanted kids but couldn't, for whatever reasons?

I used to be in the army. Is there a statute of limitations on my heroism. Although it wasn't a hugely long time. my DH was in for twice as long. When does his valuableness run out?

I have two kids, so presumably I'm worth less than the mother of 3. But i lost a much wanted baby so i would have had 3. Am i therefore worth more than someone who only wanted and had 2?

The whole point about justice is that it is blind. It should be blind to the person in the dock, and it should be blind (within the confines of legislation) to the victims. Or the next lot of conversations will be - "but x lived in a gated community" "oh y was an unemployed loser"...

Jesus, this is the dumbest thing I ever heard.

I think they have called for this in grief. His killers should get longer in prison, but this is not the way to achieve that outcome.

Virtue signaling at its very worst.

Only if the same hero's face stiffer sentences of they break the law

No. The law should be applied proportionately in every context. There’s no sliding scale of human value. Plus... “heroes”?? Not always!!

I wonder how this would work if one "hero" killed another?

Rubbish idea. Incredibly naive.

If this is the case then these heroes should be given a higher sentence when they are caught breaking the law. Never gonna happen though is it, because someone is always going to pull strings for them.

As others have posted, it's already an aggravating factor and murder of a police officer or other emergency services worker is already a minimum life tariff if the offender is over 21. Perhaps they would be better off campaigning to apply the minimum life tariff to offenders 18+? Though that still doesn't cover this case as the men were convicted of manslaughter.

While the majority of emergency services workers have a vocation, there is a minority who are attracted to those jobs for the wrong reasons and one of those reasons can be a desire to be seen as a 'hero'. I'd be worried fetishising these jobs further would attract more of the 'wrong' type, though I hope they have in-built measures in recruitment to sniff them out.