Ex taking kids to Spain

[WhatwouldJudydo]

Ex due to fly to canaries in a couple of weeks time. Following government guidance assumed it would be cancelled however ex has said its going ahead and he wants me to quarantine with the kids after due to working from home and is saying he can't keep them. AIBU not dropping all my plans so the kids can go away?

If he can’t work from home he can’t work. He needs to quarantine with them. They can’t see you until they are out of quarantine. That’s how it works.

His full responsibility.
If he wants to take the children, he is responsible for quarantine, etc or he goes on holiday in the UK.

I'm another who wouldn't be letting them go.

I wonder how many dads are planning on doing the same?

The government need to give proper guidance to insist the parent going on holiday does the quarantine otherwise it’s pointless.

The government need to give proper guidance to insist the parent going on holiday does the quarantine otherwise it’s pointless.

They’ve already issued the appropriate guidance, if it’s not essential don’t fucking go. Only a cretin would go on holiday against that advice.

Your XH will need to quarantine too with them. Is his partner going on holiday too? In which case they all need to quarantine together. If she isn't then she will need to go elsewhere. I would not have thought them staying with you after going to spain fits the quarantine rules.

Can you contact the courts? Might be worth speaking to someone to give him a kick up the arse because with them returning and he’s insisting - it’s worth some back up.

It’ll be hard if he dumps them on your step!

Insurance would be not be valid if travel goes against current advice. E111 card only allows access to same treatment that a person in that country is entitled to. I don't know about the Spanish health service but not everyone has same level as the nhs. It certainly won't cover repatriation or cost to stay in country

He has basically said if I don't quarantine with the children then they won't be able to go and they will miss out - however he,his new partner and her children will still be going regardless.

Am in the process of renewing travel insurance, but read that Covid 19 is now a, 'known disease,' it won't be covered.

Obviously this is what says on my insurance policy, but worth checking yours/Ex's.

Where will her children quarantine?

No way.
No way would they be going and no chance would I be quarantining with them if they do!
Speak to your solicitor.

A few days ago I read that the government was in talks to open air bridges with Spanish islands, so things might still change. But as things stand, I wouldn't let them go, no.

So he's basically decided to ignore the quarantine rule for himself?

He has basically said if I don't quarantine with the children then they won't be able to go and they will miss out

That's on him, if he doesn't take responsibility over their quarantine.

So they miss out. That’s his decision not yours.

I would report him going back to work as well. Selfish behaviour!

Her children will quarantine at home with them, he can't have our children because it would be too much with her working at home, his words were her kids know to be quiet for 8 hours while she works and ours can't be quiet for that long. I think really he's not planning to quarantine at all and will be going back off to work! I know the answer but I know he will swing this back onto me telling the kids because I can't be bothered to stay home and give up plans they can't go on holiday! I really hope a travel bridge does open if it's safe to do so.

I wouldn’t let them go, purely on the basis it’s not fair to leave one out, likely lack of insurance, possibility being of stranded if rules changed and I certainly wouldn’t want them travelling in a pandemic. I also wouldn’t facilitate anything that meant people ignored quarantine rules.

We were supposed to be staying with family in Spain, our flight was due to leave a matter of hours after the advice changed. I am a Spanish citizen (duel national) as are my children so entitled to health care and would not have housing cost to pay if we had to stay longer due to infection or flight cancellations or whatever. We still didnt go. Not because of the quarantine - we can both work from home and would be home in time for the kids to quarantine before school started again - but because the advice is not to travel so our insurance is not valid. If anything went seriously wrong we would be screwed - its not likely but the consequences of travelling without insurance are massive if something does happen. Just me and my husband might have risked it but I wouldn't with the kids.

@WhatwouldJudydo

He has basically said if I don't quarantine with the children then they won't be able to go and they will miss out - however he,his new partner and her children will still be going regardless.

I can see why he is an ex

if youve got to work then they cant go but thats on him not you-hes now saying your children are badly behaved now aswell

Your choice is to have them the whole time OR part of the time when they isolate

Either mean YOU changing your plans - it's absolute bollocks but you can't make him do anything

How can anyone be so dense as to think that quarantine involves anything other than the travelling party having no contact with others? He is literally suggesting that the children breach quarantine to spend the 2 weeks with you.

Well I don't think one persons told me IABU, I spoke to the kids today as ex has still been telling them they are going g and explained with quarantine etc I'm not sure they would be able to go. Just going to be a bit crappy when ex and the other kids still go and they don't and then don't see him for 3 weeks minimum but he can explain that to them. Yes it's annoying I had plans while he was away but I'd rather cancel and loose money and the kids be okay plus I don't really have a choice anyway!

hope the kids took it ok mus tbe hard