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To think places of Worship should be closed before pubs.

186 replies

StatisticalSense · 01/08/2020 23:03

If it is found that more restrictions are going to be needed to keep the virus under control people immediately jump to pubs and other hospitality venues which are essential to keeping the economy functioning, employ literally millions of people (and support the jobs of millions more), and are beneficial to the mental health of many of their clientele. Places of worship however provide no economic benefit, and are just as much of a vector of spread as people socialise with many others who they wouldn't otherwise see. This means that it would clearly make sense from an economic and societal stand point to close places of worships if this would allow pubs to stay open.

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Leflic · 03/08/2020 00:18

@BigChocFrenzy

"I don’t think that’s the same of Places of Worship"

Places of worship will let anyone in

When pp are totally skint, standard MN advice directs them to local churches, temples, mosques for a free meal,
which pubs don't offer

It’s been awhile since GCSE Re but pretty sure as a woman I can’t just waltz into a mosque or a synagogue? I might be welcome at a church but only if I’m respectful and don’t disagree with the people there. Pubs are much more inclusive of gender, race and religion. All the locals I know have given free food , or a pints or a bit of work to those that need it. Pubs frequently do charity fund raisers. None of which is because some book of pubs tells them to.The landlords turn up to support as many events as the vicars do. Added to which they provide much needed jobs especially in rural areas where their isn’t much work.
BigChocFrenzy · 03/08/2020 01:42

" pretty sure as a woman I can’t just waltz into a mosque or a synagogue?"

You can't wander into the mens room or mens changing room either
Several things in life are segregated by sex
You can go into the womens section of a mosque or synagogue

" I might be welcome at a church but only if I’m respectful and don’t disagree with the people there. "

My late mum's church used to be visited by a bloke with probable MH problems, who'd start shouting
He was always kindly soothed down, given tea and biscuits, allowed to stay as long as he wanted

He'd have been chucked out of any pub

BigChocFrenzy · 03/08/2020 01:44

I've never come across a pub that regularly gives out lots of free meals to the skint

BigChocFrenzy · 03/08/2020 01:50

I've worked in pubs as a student
and since then I've occasionally been involved in charity work to help feed & clothe the destitute and homeless

Pubs are usually good for a donation, but of course nothing remotely of the order of magnitude required for the kind of work the churches, mosques, temples, synagogues do
They are the last refuge when the state cannot or will not help

I've never read a thread where pp advise a desperate & skint poster to take their family to Spoons for a free meal

jessstan2 · 03/08/2020 02:50

Places of worship have been closed and are only gradually reopening now; I'm not a congregant but know people who are and they've had to go through all sorts to be able to go to church and observe social distancing with no hanging about chatting afterwards.

Pubs are just re-opening after being locked down.

I don't think it is either/or.

Cheeseybites · 03/08/2020 08:01

Lefic
I'm a woman who's been in a hindu temple, a mosque and a synagogue, in all of them there were separate sides for the women but I was welcomed in as someone who wasn't even the 'right' religion and in all fo them the women had equal sized areas to the men and were just as welcome.

I work very closely with a womens refuge in my town as part of my job and they regularly receive food and clothes donations from just about every type of place of worship.

Sudofuckoff · 03/08/2020 15:59

It's not like there have been any outbreaks in churches.

Oh wait...

AzraiL · 03/08/2020 16:30

The only generous explanation I can come up with for this post is that the OP is drunk.

JBizz · 03/08/2020 16:40

yabu.

places of worship are much more important than pubs, I am an avid anti religious person but come on, to sit there and think that a pub is more important for mental health than a place of worship is ludicrous

Hopeisnotastrategy · 03/08/2020 16:43

Since far more people go to the pub than go to church nowadays, this is unlikely to be much help.

StonedRoses · 03/08/2020 16:50

The rules are clear. You can go anywhere indoors as long as there’s a card reader to take your money

We can’t have a church choir singing even outdoors. But we could have Ed Sheehan as long as we paid to come in. It’s daft.
You may not agree and that’s cool but for people of faith their places or worship are integral to their life and faith.

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