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Less than 100 days and counting... (Trump thread #103)

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Roussette · 01/08/2020 07:49

Here we go...

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AcrossthePond55 · 25/08/2020 14:03

I couldn't watch one minute of it. I thought I'd watch Rachel, but honestly I couldn't even bring myself to do that. It's just too depressing and like rubbing one's nose in the state of the Country.

The little titbits you all have posted is enough for me. A real shitshow starring Scrotus.

AcrossthePond55 · 25/08/2020 14:10

@Lweji

I bet the dementia defence will kick out as soon as he leaves office and has to face the courts.
I agree. He'll do a Harvey Weinstein and suddenly be 'ill' and 'senile'.

It'll be similar to the recent portrayal by the defense of the Golden State Killer, Joseph D'Angelo, as 'a figure of sympathy'. He's been rolled into court in a wheelchair and played the part of a crippled and confused old man. At the sentencing video was played by the DA showing him walking and stretching in his cell and also agilely climbing on a table to dim the lights by putting pieces of cardboard on them. Creepily, he always dimmed the lights during his attacks.

It shouldn't be allowed.

TheNorthWestPawsage · 25/08/2020 14:21

Stephen Colbert from last night. He watched for us.

Lweji · 25/08/2020 14:26

And our friend Melania is back

Roussette · 25/08/2020 15:20

All speakers at Trump's pressers and round tables have to begin their contributions with "Thank you for your leadership." It's a formula that they must say to keep on his good side

It's all very Kim Jong Un isn't it..
Talking of him, he's supposed to be either in a coma or out the door. And the sister is taking over, who is supposed to be more mean than him.

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OVienna · 25/08/2020 15:48

I think it is important to watch the videos because I want to see for myself what is being said and how. However, the issue with this is that it generates audience numbers for them which can be spun as "interest" and "success" relative to the DNC.

DandyCad · 25/08/2020 16:09

Hello do you mind if I join you? I’ve decided to take more of an active interest in the election. Not that I wasn’t interested before, but with Trump it is so easy to respond to him in an emotionally visceral binary way - yay or no way. I’m in the latter camp and have found him being president so farcical and frightening that I’ve disengaged with news about him. It’s almost too easy to mock and laugh as he’s a caricature. I still can’t reconcile him being President with him being the star of the US Apprentice; watching that was late-night guilty pleasures when up with a small baby (so much more fun than the UK version!)

But this is real and important (duh) so I’m forcing myself to engage and learn and listen and seek detail and some nuance. I don’t do Facebook and avoid all Trump stuff on Twitter. This however looks like a great discussion. Smile

I’ve lived in the US before and in many ways would love to live there again.

Roussette · 25/08/2020 16:13

Welcome DandyCad

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AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 25/08/2020 16:39

It isn't quite
'Speaker after speaker paid homage to the absolute monarch as if competing to outdo one another for obsequious sycophancy.'
to my mind.

More reminiscent to me of people tiptoeing round Stalin, so much so that even when he was dead the doctor didn't dare to announce it. They are afraid to offend Trump.

DandyCad · 25/08/2020 17:10

Thanks for the welcome Roussette

I agree Asking, I doubt its sycophancy in all cases. For those that aren’t genuine sycophants though, I wonder though how much of it is not so much the fear of offending Trump but more going through the motions to placate Trump (for an easier life)? A few must be there for career reasons or because they’re die-hard supporters of the Republican rather than die-hard Trump supporters. Better to have a seat at the table & the experience of working at a top level in the govt under a despot than not perhaps?

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 25/08/2020 17:57

That sounds possible, yes.

I am unsure how much good being one of Trump's Trusties will do them with subsequent leaders, though: how many of Nixon's bright lads were given top-tier jobs after 1974? I haven't looked into it, but I suspect they were probably viewed as a bit tainted.

Well, until Trump gathered them into his fold, in some cases at least.

Lweji · 25/08/2020 18:54

It looks like Hell may well freeze over.

Unwanted and unwelcome support for Biden from Alt-Right Richard Spencer because Democrats are "more competent". Grin

www.businessinsider.com/joe-biden-campaign-disavows-richard-spencer-endorsement-2020-8

Lweji · 25/08/2020 18:56

How is it going for those who've left the Trump administration in the last 3 years?

Roussette · 25/08/2020 19:02

I imagine those placating him just don't want payback time. He likes to eliminate enemies (figuratively speaking of course, he isn't Putin!) He has an exhausting enemies list, no doubt,

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AcrossthePond55 · 25/08/2020 20:18

@Lweji

How is it going for those who've left the Trump administration in the last 3 years?
Most of them are either in jail or have a conservative talk radio show. Or they're on a book tour. 😆😆
Lweji · 25/08/2020 20:25

Or Dancing with the Stars?

lionheart · 26/08/2020 07:48

www.politicususa.com/2020/08/25/melania-trump-convention-speech.html

'Melania Trump Sounded Like A Hostage In Convention Speech Disaster.'

TheNorthWestPawsage · 26/08/2020 08:03

Day 2 RNC - more Trump (of course) and speeches from Melania, Eric and Tiffany. The latter 3 aren't going to make any difference to anyone or anything. Meh!

Perhaps the RNC will score more Brownie points with their highlighting of newly naturalised immigrants, "small people" and women. However, I'm sure they and their stories will be forgotten before the week is out though.

From The Washington Post:

At the start of the night, a lengthy video featured Trump’s pardon of Jon Ponder, a convicted bank robber and three-time felon who has run a program that helps people transition to life outside prison. The pardon was announced shortly before the evening’s programming in a White House video.


The touching story noted that Ponder and the FBI agent who arrested him, Richard Beasley, have become unlikely close friends.
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One thing previewed by convention organizers — whose promises of an optimistic convention weren’t exactly realized Monday — was that regular people would be featured.


That also wasn’t so much the case Monday, but it was Tuesday, and it worked.
 A Wisconsin dairy farmer, Cris Peterson, recounted the recent struggles in that industry and how her family suffered a blow when their cow-milking barn burned down. But she credited Trump’s economic policies and attentiveness to farmers’ struggles.
“President Trump understands that farming is a complicated, capital-intensive and risky business,” Peterson said. “More than any president in my lifetime, he has acknowledged the importance of farmers and agriculture. That support and focus on negotiating new trade deals gave us the confidence to rebuild our barn and dairy operation.”
Peterson said Trump, amid the coronavirus pandemic, “again took steps to provide the supports we needed. … One person deserves the credit and our vote: President Donald J. Trump.”
Similarly, the owner of a metal fabrication business — another Wisconsinite — credited Trump’s deregulation and renegotiation of the North American Free Trade Agreement with helping his business. A longtime Democrat from Minnesota credited Trump’s trade war, saying that “for far too long, members both parties allowed our country to be ripped off by our trading partners, especially China, who dumped steel into our markets and slapped tariffs on our products.” And a Maine lobsterman recounted not voting for Trump in 2016 because he was skeptical of Trump’s conservative bona fides, but ultimately becoming convinced.
The emphasis on regular people — many of them notably from key electoral areas like these — seemed likely more effective than the focus on members of Trump’s family, who have been extremely prominent at the convention thus far and dominated Tuesday night especially.

Roussette · 26/08/2020 08:10

That speech was just emotionless tripe... so agree with this..

"The Trumps are being forced to hold a convention where they can’t hide behind a ravenous crowd, and their inauthenticity is on display for the entire nation to see."

And no masks. No social distancing. How she can bring up Covid and say 'my husband is doing all he can blah blah' when they were sat less than two feet apart, I do not know.

And this...
Tiffany Trump: "As a recent graduate, I can relate to so many of you who might be looking for a job."
Shock
The non self awareness gene runs through the family then!

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lifesabitchandthenyoudie · 26/08/2020 08:23

Just cannot get over how many people swallow all the lies. Can people really not hear it, are their minds so closed???

On a lighter note, does anyone know what that guy behind Trump was up to during M's speech... big shout out to the camera operative for trying to get a closer look before they cut away! Wink

OVienna · 26/08/2020 09:07

Just watched Tiffany and am now watching Melania. By the way, viewer numbers are (apparently) lower than the DNC so very little risk if you do watch it live but I suspect it's a bit late for all of us.

Tiffany gave a well articulated discussion on free speech - trouble is, as we all know, they're in favour as long as it aligns with their views/Fox news and now they are making room for the ghastly QAnon! Tiffany expressing worry about her job prospects - no words. Just no words in a convention that has featured all of her siblings barring Barron.

Melania must have been bricking it - the language challenge alone would have been incredibly intimidating. I don't envy her. I know there is speculation about her pre-nup but I think she will stick it out but i wonder if it feels like a life sentence.

But what really stands out is the breathtaking disconnect between her immigrant story (which she spoke well about) and DT's own treatment of immigrants and migrants and her own behaviour (ie wearing that "I don't care, Do you?" coat for the border visit, supporting the Obama birther controversy). It is hard to believe she can say what she said last night with no shame.

Interesting Castro-style suiting, I have to say.

Didn't watch much of Donny JR but what I did see felt deranged. Kimberly was unbelievable. Just as horrendous as the press reports made out.

OVienna · 26/08/2020 09:11

@TheNorthWestPawsage I missed the pardon guy and also didn't see it in the papers.

Did you see that Blageovic (sp) is HOSTING A FUCKING EVENT for him??? He is the Pardon President. That is what he will be remembered for.

OVienna · 26/08/2020 09:15

What is also sickening is the Hatch Act violations going on here getting a proverbial eye roll, as if anyone who raises this very real issue is just a dreadful pedant.

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