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Less than 100 days and counting... (Trump thread #103)

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Roussette · 01/08/2020 07:49

Here we go...

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BruceAndNosh · 14/08/2020 14:33

Apologies if this has already been posed as it's a day or so old.
Trump appoints doctor as new adviser ...and it so happens that Doctors view mirror Trump's own.
Obviously yet another Yes man
www.forbes.com/sites/mattperez/2020/08/12/who-is-dr-scott-atlas-trumps-new-covid-health-adviser-seen-as-counter-to-fauci-and-birx/#4caae34520a4

Dickensnovel · 14/08/2020 14:34

@Roussette So far, it has been extremely hard to stop Trump on anything he decides to pull. The courts are slow, and Barr interferes; the House has hearings and passes bills, etc. but the Senate stonewalls or votes them down. Impeachment was a weak try, and ineffective, and now Trump just does as he pleases, in plain sight - and no one quite knows what to do!! Very frustrating to watch.

Roussette · 14/08/2020 15:16

Isn't it just. No wonder everyone is counting down the days

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AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 14/08/2020 15:52

Not actually appointed by Trump himself; seems to have been appointed by people who know what is good for them with Trump as President, though. As we have seen, he can block funding to them and destroy their sinecure.

www.newsweek.com/trump-donor-louis-dejoy-confirmed-postmaster-general-1502579

DeJoy has also been a prominent GOP fundraiser. He is the national finance chairman for the Republican National Convention, scheduled to take place in Charlotte this August, describing that appointment as an "honor."
As well as this, the soon-to-be new head of the U.S. Postal Service is a large donor himself and has given more than $360,000 to Trump Victory since January, according to Federal Election Commission data.
DeJoy is also the husband of Aldona Wos, who serves as vice-chair of the President's Commission on White House Fellowships.

Clearly someone who will do what Trump wants.

Lweji · 14/08/2020 16:07

"Michael Cohen predicts that Trump will 'never leave office peacefully' because he's terrified of being sent to prison"

Cohen and everybody else.

www.businessinsider.com/michael-cohen-book-foreword-trump-will-never-leave-office-peacefully-2020-8

cozietoesie · 14/08/2020 16:36

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AcrossthePond55 · 14/08/2020 16:44

We watched last night's Rachel this morning (DH say it's starting to give him nightmares so he doesn't want to watch just before bed). Her piece on the USPS really scared me. I'm not worried about returning my ballot. Now I'm worried about whether or not I'll get it in the first place. Maybe because I live in a predominantly 'red' county they won't fuck with our local post offices as that would mess up any GOP 'absentee' ballots (as opposed to my 'mail in' one).

Heffalooomia · 14/08/2020 17:42

I wonder if he'll also leave if he doesn't like any question
or just ignore it like he did here...Confused
[short clip, 30 secs approx]

'The Huffington Post’s White House correspondent, S V Dáte, broke from the usual question and answer protocol at President Trump's press briefings, posing a simple, yet cutting question: "Mr President, after three and a half years, do you regret at all, all the lying you’ve done to the American people?," he asked. Trump, who after initially responding with his own question: "all the what?", ignored Dáte and moved on to the next question'
TheNorthWestPawsage · 14/08/2020 18:40

Just saw that Trump's brother is "very ill" in NY hospital and Trump is flying to visit him today. I haven't seen anything that indicates he has Covid-19 so assume it's something else.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 14/08/2020 19:33

The silly thing about the whole "Tell the British government I want the British Open to happen at my golf course!" business is that the British government doesn't control the venues for golf tournaments. He needs to cosy up to his chums (if any) at The R&A, who do that. I somehow doubt that they would want to know, though, any more than anyone would say "yeah, sure, we'll hold the Derby at your racecourse this year" to some chancer.

PerkingFaintly · 14/08/2020 19:41

Illuminating (if any further illumination were needed) about how he's running the US, and how he expects other countries to be run.

Makes one wonder what favours he's asked from other governments, and with what success. It will be why he gets on like a house on fire with other tinpot dictators who treat their countries like private fiefdoms.

TheNorthWestPawsage · 14/08/2020 20:28

Surely this affects all postal votes whether Democrat or Republican? Isn't this shooting yourself in the foot?

Postal Service warns 46 states their voters could be disenfranchised by delayed mail-in ballots
www.washingtonpost.com/local/md-politics/usps-states-delayed-mail-in-ballots/2020/08/14/64bf3c3c-dcc7-11ea-8051-d5f887d73381_story.html

Anticipating an avalanche of absentee ballots, the U.S. Postal Service recently sent detailed letters to 46 states and D.C. warning that it cannot guarantee all ballots cast by mail for the November election will arrive in time to be counted — adding another layer of uncertainty ahead of the high-stakes presidential contest.


The letters sketch a grim possibility for the tens of millions of Americans eligible for a mail-in ballot this fall: Even if people follow all of their state’s election rules, the pace of Postal Service delivery may disqualify their votes.


The Postal Service’s warnings of potential disenfranchisement came as the agency undergoes a sweeping organizational and policy overhaul amid dire financial conditions. Cost-cutting moves have already delayed mail delivery by as much as a week in some places, and a new decision to decommission 10 percent of the Postal Service’s sorting machines sparked widespread concern the slowdowns will only worsen. Rank-and-file postal workers say the move is ill-timed and could sharply diminish the speedy processing of flat mail, including letters and ballots.


The ballot warnings, issued at the end of July from Thomas J. Marshall, general counsel and executive vice president of the Postal Service, and obtained through a records request by The Washington Post, were planned before the appointment of Louis DeJoy, a former logistics executive and ally of President Trump, as postmaster general in early summer. They go beyond the traditional coordination between the Postal Service and election officials, drafted as fears surrounding the coronavirus pandemic triggered an unprecedented and sudden shift to mail-in voting.




Some states anticipate 10 times the normal volume of election mail. Six states and D.C. received warnings that ballots could be delayed for a narrow set of voters. But the Postal Service gave 40 others — including the key battleground states of Michigan, Pennsylvania and Florida — more-serious warnings that their long-standing deadlines for requesting, returning or counting ballots were “incongruous” with mail service and that voters who send ballots in close to those deadlines may become disenfranchised.

Less than 100 days and counting... (Trump thread #103)
lionheart · 14/08/2020 22:12

Barack Obama
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'Everyone depends on the USPS. Seniors for their Social Security, veterans for their prescriptions, small businesses trying to keep their doors open. They can't be collateral damage for an administration more concerned with suppressing the vote than suppressing a virus.'

PerkingFaintly · 14/08/2020 22:21

Surely this affects all postal votes whether Democrat or Republican? Isn't this shooting yourself in the foot?

What if you're a person who thinks you'll lose regardless whose votes you suppress?

What if you're a person whose plan is not to win an election, but to claim that an election is invalid, and therefore you have to stay on as interim head of state?

Make more sense now?

PerkingFaintly · 14/08/2020 22:23

What if your current sugar daddy is a someone whose aim isn't to reinstate you as President, but to plunge the US into constitutional crisis and paralysis?

AcrossthePond55 · 14/08/2020 22:24

Surely this affects all postal votes whether Democrat or Republican? Isn't this shooting yourself in the foot?

I think it's predicated on the belief that more Dems vote by mail than Repugs. The Dem party is encouraging vote by mail to avoid lines and Covid risk.

I think the purpose is to create HUGE lines at polling places and to discourage people (meaning Dems) from standing in long lines due to the fear of exposure. And in the hopes that polls will shut the doors before everyone gets a chance to vote. IIRC that happened somewhere during the primary and some organization actually had to RUN to a courthouse and get an emergency injunction forcing them to reopen the polling place.

It is more likely that Dems will be concerned about Covid risk during this election. Repugs, of course, are immune from Covid cuz they don't actually believe in so are not at risk, doncha know.

The mail slowdown is also being done because Scrotus tweeted his 'suggestion demand that election results be announced on Election Night! Ridiculous! Most mail in ballots aren't counted until after the polls close so they aren't available until next day. This is to avoid the chance of the results of mail in ballots being released before Election and/the closing of the polls, thereby discouraging some people from voting in person.

Plus many states allow a 'lag time' for the ballots to be received. Technically, those votes may not be counted if there is a clear majority win without them. But in a close vote, those 'late votes' may make the difference.

All I know is that I have the date marked on my calendar as to the first and last days they mail out ballots. I also have bookmarked (to be printed) what to do to cast a 'provisional ballot' if I don't receive mine. AND (as I previously said) we are walking our mail in ballots to the local registrar.

AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 14/08/2020 22:57

How many weeks was it before Florida stopped bickering about the result of their ballot and declared for Bush? Seems as if late counting is fine so long as it is Republicans doing it.

And what about servicemen overseas (generally supposed to be majority-Republican)? What happens about their ballot papers?

Roussette · 15/08/2020 08:17

This is moving.. Khizr and Ghazala Khan who Trump behaved appallingly towards just before he was elected.
And a lovely story about them and Joe Biden.

www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/aug/15/khizr-khan-donald-trump-joe-biden-interview?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

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TheNorthWestPawsage · 15/08/2020 09:10

US military registered for absentee ballots are advised dates to send them back in time but I guess once they hit US soil the ballots become dependent on the individual states' handling of the mail as the votes go to the state listed as the service person's last home address.
They should get their ballots up to 45 days before the election or by the beginning of October. The current advice on the FVAP.Gov website looks a little optimistic...

Less than 100 days and counting... (Trump thread #103)
AskingQuestionsAllTheTime · 15/08/2020 09:37

I have a vague feeling that it was discovered rather later that the military ballots for Florida in 2000 didn't get counted. Or maybe it was only the majority of them.

But then that was the year in which more votes for the Republicans were counted (in a county which had always until then been 80% Democrat) than there were registered voters in that county. Everyone was so busy wondering what had gone so wrong that a previously 80% Democrat county had gone Republican that they seemed not to notice the actual numbers.

lionheart · 15/08/2020 13:34

Stephen Colbert

'Don't worry, I'm sure those mailboxes being removed in Oregon are just being cleaned and painted before being dumped in the ocean.'

TheNorthWestPawsage · 15/08/2020 14:38

The Wikipedia War That Shows How Ugly This Election Will Be
An editing battle over Kamala Harris’s race is a sign of what’s to come. www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2020/08/the-wikipedia-war-over-kamala-harris-race/615250/