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To think some friends with one child don't understand how hard it is.

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Dandelion34 · 29/07/2020 16:38

I don't mean all people. I also don't think I have it harder than a mum with one child all the time. But sometimes I don't think friends always understand it's not as easy with more than one.

I have a friend with a child the same age as mine. We did all the baby groups, park dates and regular weekly catch ups. Fast forward to me having my second child I feel it's alot more complex. Children of different ages. Trying to find activities they both can be happy and safe doing is tricky.

My friend chose to have no more and he's now at school. She's got alot more freedom now and she drives. But I've felt lately like she's been making comments like she thinks I don't do enough.

In February she said something about my son being ready for nursery. He was just two and I really can't afford nursery until it's funded. It was because he was being grouchy on the school run in his pushchair but he wasn't old enough to walk until we were away from the roads. She also said he didn't get to see other children his age. That can't be helped when my oldest was too old for the group's and I had them both until school. But also he had his sister and they have a great relationship.

She's struggled in lockdown but has been doing bits whilst her son was at school. She had her car to pop out. I've been taking mine for walks and now we are attempting a little more whilst remaining cautious when my partner's home at the weekends. I really struggled when we had our first day out, but I won't bore you with the details. I told her today on the phone and she said it's because we've been home for so long and I needed to do more. I feel she doesn't understand I couldn't do more than what we were doing. Children going into Asda was causing outrage at the time and therefore I kept them away.

She was making suggestions about me going for picnics and things. We've done these things as a family recently anyway. She was telling me I should walk to places for food and take a ball etc.

Whilst I know she means well. I don't feel she understands what it's like to have a two year old who still hasn't adapted to walking safely. Who also doesn't like his pushchair on top of a four year old who wants to do more but you have to juggle it and it ends up irritating and sometimes hard work.

She's only ever had to focus on her one child. They have all the one on one time. She can enjoy an ice cream by the river with him now and a lovely walk. But she's past all the pushchairs, tantrums and danger.

I really feel sometimes it's easier to do less and I'll admit taking both kids out isn't my favourite thing at these ages. But i feel like my friend is saying I need to get out more which has left me feeling paranoid!

OP posts:
Zaphodsotherhead · 31/07/2020 10:01

I had five under eight.

And somebody tried to tell me that having two dogs was as hard as looking after my children.

I was so tempted to hand them over to her and tell her to get back to me when she'd learned her lesson. But I didn't. She genuinely didn't see how much of a struggle it was for me and thought she had it harder because her partner worked away and she always 'had to get back for the dogs'.

Once I became a single mum she stopped comparing her life to mine.

Americanwoman · 31/07/2020 11:05

I have one child age 8 because my PPD was so severe after the birth I don’t know if I could survive having another newborn. Lockdown has been really hard at times with just one - I know they have been lonely and that’s why I have made a real effort to get out and about to go places and see people. Perhaps your friend feels the same? I’m generally happy with one child but lockdown definitely made things harder and I have felt a lot of mummy guilt at ‘choosing’ to stop at one and not give my child a playmate. Don’t just assume your friend is having an easier time - we have all had our situations exasperated by these difficult times

Mammyloveswine · 31/07/2020 11:10

My two are fucking hard work and many of my friends only have one...

I am drained and knackered and my fucking husband is working from home and hasn't taken a single days holiday over summer so it's all on me...I'm off as I'm a teacher...

It's shit, I worked all through lockdown whilst home schooling the 4 year old and trying to toilet train the toddler..

I'm knackered, the house is a tip and getting out is a pain due to them both running in different bloody directions.

I feel you!

welcometohell · 31/07/2020 12:24

It's just the stage you're at, OP.
I have a 2 year old and a 6 year old. Taking them out on my own can be stressful at the moment, but I think that's because one of them is a toddler, not because there are two of them! When the youngest is old enough to understand the concept of danger, communicate his needs/wants clearly and I can actually reason with him (or bribe him, whatever works!) then I'm sure it'll become less stressful. In the meantime, I tend to keep outings short and local if I'm on my own, such as the library or trip to the park. Proper days out tend to happen at weekends when DH is around as it's easier and more enjoyable that way.
Meet ups with friends tend to happen in the evenings without the kids so we can actually have a conversation! Meeting a friend for a picnic with kids in tow doesn't appeal to me at this stage either, OP as trying to hold an adult conversation whilst running around after a toddler and keeping an eye on an older child is just frustrating.

Florencemattell · 31/07/2020 12:50

You are making it hard work. A two year old can walk a mile or two. Get him out of the buggy and walking. Use reins/back pack if he runs off. He will not walk far at first but should soon be ok. Most toddlers now days dont get enough exercise as parents like you carry them everywhere or have them in a buggy. He will eat and sleep better with more exercise. Two children is the not difficult at all.

Florencemattell · 31/07/2020 12:56

And the poster saying they cant manage a picnic are equally ridiculous. I really wonder about the parenting skills of mothers today.
Parent your children, if they interrupt tell , explain that adults are talking. Ensure they have something to do. Eg a ball to play with, or picnic next to a play park. Play then call them.over, wash hands, sit down and eat food. When everyone is finished including you they can play again. Children need to learn to sit patiently, they are capable. But so many mothers are totally at the mercy of their childrens demands. Poor parenting .

SleepingStandingUp · 31/07/2020 13:06

I don't think this is about 2 Vs 1 really op. You keep mentioning get driving, which it s a massive game changer, esp ATM. Plus dc2 isn't a sit and chill kid so even if I was just him you couldn't do picnics by the lake.

If you want to get out can you not put him on reins?

SleepingStandingUp · 31/07/2020 13:15

@Florencemattell

And the poster saying they cant manage a picnic are equally ridiculous. I really wonder about the parenting skills of mothers today. Parent your children, if they interrupt tell , explain that adults are talking. Ensure they have something to do. Eg a ball to play with, or picnic next to a play park. Play then call them.over, wash hands, sit down and eat food. When everyone is finished including you they can play again. Children need to learn to sit patiently, they are capable. But so many mothers are totally at the mercy of their childrens demands. Poor parenting .
With a 2yo? Yes agree they need to learn not to interrupt but the idea that the 2yo will just at quietly because Mom is talking and then send them off to play alone 😂
welcometohell · 31/07/2020 13:20

And the poster saying they cant manage a picnic are equally ridiculous. I really wonder about the parenting skills of mothers today

Calm down. No one is saying they "can't manage" a picnic, just that it's not a particularly relaxing or enjoyable way to catch up with a friend if you've got a toddler in tow.

Sorberret · 31/07/2020 13:30

I have 3 and I completely agree with you op! Surely no-one can deny that looking after 1 is harder than looking after 2! Those saying that the dc have a playmate - what?? Yeah maybe for about 10% of the day, the rest of it they're squabbling and fighting- drives you nuts! And then there's the competiveness, trying to spread your time etc etc. I'm not saying it's all roses with one - it's not I had just one once upon a time! Just that there's a whole new side of parenting that you just don't appreciate when you have just one. I don't think your friend quite appreciates what it's like for you and I can completely understand your need to rant and let off steam!!

Sorberret · 31/07/2020 13:35

Oops that was meant to say looking after 2 is harder than looking after 1

LittleHootie · 31/07/2020 13:39

I think its easy to forget all the stuff that limits you when they are younger. Like the whole timing naps, not wanting them to sleep in car, and the stuff you've mentioned about safety on riverbank etc.

I think you might be taking it too personally though. As you say she's trying to be helpful it's just misguided.

Such funny times now. I feel guilt at not going out with my DC very much. A few people have suggested I get out and about, but we are pretty happy and I'd rather avoid busy places and manage the risk on my own terms. X

Bluehues · 31/07/2020 13:57

Maybe she is aware of how hard it is for you but she’s knackered from being her sons only entertainment, and so she drags you out with your two to give her a rest?? Just a theory. Personally I love being at home with the kids. Do get a car if you can, it’ll change your life completely

Dandelion34 · 31/07/2020 14:52

I don't understand people saying pack a picnic, get a ball, deal with your child like this. I occasionally do this. I'm well aware how to do it. But I'm saying right now it's hell with my son. He's not mature enough to sit on a blanket. Some two year olds get it. Some don't. My first did. My second is a full on dare Devil. That's nothing to do with him ruling me. It's his personality. He wants to be free. Before you even start on about walking. My daughter was 100% out a buggy by 2 years and 9 months! She walks a mile to school. She's walked everywhere from being little. My son has not grasped road safety as quickly. He does walk. He also shouts help when I hold his hand. He sits on the floor. He pulls away. So I put him back in the pushchair and then he screams to walk. Believe me I've told him the rules...... You get out, you hold mummy's hand. It goes over his head. So I put him back in and remind him he wasn't walking nicely. He's two! So I don't expect him to wait until I've finished and sit down for half an hour to eat. It's 2 minutes with him and he's ready to run. I don't see how that makes you think it's parenting today. I can guarantee you he wouldn't behave for you either. My daughter would have though she's totally different.

I'm sorry I can't remember the person's username who thinks children should be seen and not heard.

It really is a hard stage. It's not about me having anxiety. It's just his personality. He's a joy to be around but just not on long walks

I am happy at home too. It just feels it's not normal to have a few days a week home and a few walking according to some. It's not like there's much we can do right now, without being irresponsible with the virus. pandemic.

My friend means well but I just feel she's thinking it's unhealthy to be in so much. But until life resumes we can't go swimming and things like we used to. Our holidays cancelled. We have less money. There's only so many reasons to go out at the moment!

OP posts:
ifhedoesntlikeithecanstuffit · 31/07/2020 15:26

I have two and now they're older I'd say it's so much easier than for my friends who have one. Especially during lockdown, I was so grateful they had each other for company, and to play in the garden and go for bike rides etc.

When they were younger I also noticed how hard some of my friends found it having to constantly interact with their single child, while mine could amuse each other when I was busy. Holidays have also been great - whereas some friends have had to resort to taking someone else's child with them to stop their child getting bored (or to allow the parents some 'me' time....Grin).

You're at a really difficult stage right now, but in a couple of years you'll be over the worst and it'll all be fine. There are obviously pros and cons of both types of family, but just enjoy what you have and don't worry about what anyone else thinks or says. And if it gets tough - just think how lovely it will be when they're 4 and 6, or 6 and 8.....Smile.

SleepingStandingUp · 31/07/2020 15:46

Especially during lockdown, I was so grateful they had each other for company, and to play in the garden and go for bike rides etc. It really does depend on their ages though. I have 3 so life should be a doddle according to this logic bit the youngest two are 7 months. They don't entertain each other, and the 5 to will entertain them in 10 minute slots then they cry when he gets bored and leaves. They're not as used to the pushchair as he was cos there's a pandemic so whilst in ops situation I could have them in the pushchair easier, they still don't like it once it stops. So no, more than 1 aren't miraculous reciprocal childcare uNtil theyr certain ages, depending on the age gap and personality and interests. Lockdown 12+ months ago would have been far easier

SleepingStandingUp · 31/07/2020 15:46

Op you need reins.

CookieSue222 · 31/07/2020 15:53

I get it OP. Over 25 years ago I made a good friend through antenatal classes. We both had daugters 10 days apart and we had some lovely times with the 4 of us as a group - ' the girls' did everything together.
3 years later I had my second child, a gorgeous son and the dynamic changed completely. My friend struggled with the fact that I now had to deal with 2 children - 2 different ages, 2 different needs. I paticulary remember going to her house for a play date when the girls were about 5 and my friends daughter insisting that only my daughter was allowed to play with her toys, and my son (who was almost 3) was expected to sit on a blanket and play with his cars. My son was upset and wanted to join in with the girls, and I remember my friend saying that her daughter was 'quite precious' about her toys and that my little boy was unwelcome to join in, in case he broke something (he and his sister played happily with each others toys at home). It really was an eye-opener, as I had always taught my kids to share. After that I found it hard to reconcile the fact that my son was not seen as a member of our group, but as 'something' that had to be 'dealt with' so that her daughter could have her play date with mine. I never really saw the friend in the same light again.

Nettie1964 · 31/07/2020 16:28

Much harder with 2 don't beat yourself up. X

user1471590586 · 31/07/2020 16:45

I think people have been unfair to you OP and I think your friend is bring a bit insensitive. I found it more than twice as hard when my second child came along. They have 3 years between them and it is more difficult finding activities that work for both. When I met up with friends they wanted to do activities that suited the older child but weren't as toddler friendly. It has also got more difficult for me as my youngest turned out to be autistic which has brought lots of challenges. It has affected everything we do as a family.

PablosHoney · 31/07/2020 16:54

It is a hard stage and made harder by well meaning people who make you feel like a shite mother if you don’t enjoy every second on top of the shit storm that is the coronavirus. Be easy on yourself and do what you can.

SomeonesRealName · 31/07/2020 16:58

I think I'd just be relieved it's not one of those effortless super mums with three or four beautifully behaved children saying such things! Grin Hope things feel better soon it's difficult times OP.

PablosHoney · 31/07/2020 17:00

I’ve got three and when they were all small I practically threw myself at someone who had 3 that were older for reassurance that it would get easier 😂

Sailfin · 31/07/2020 18:14

Leave us mums of only children alone.

Danetobe · 31/07/2020 18:23

I have three. Sometimes when I have a difficult day I think that some people are raising four or even more! I’m not saying I, or you, have it easier than them. It’s just that everyone operates at the limit. Hell, I used to think the weekends were too short and knackering even before I have any children 😂. Having children is hard work for most people at least some of the time, let’s not judge. I’m told it will get easier as they get older and I’m hanging on to that.